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16 Signs That Most Americans Are NOT PREPARED For The Coming Economic Collapse
SHTF Plan ^ | 4/9/14 | Michael Snyder.

Posted on 04/09/2014 4:36:30 PM PDT by Kartographer

#8-16 The following are nine more statistics that come from a survey conducted by the Adelphi Center for Health Innovation. As you can see, a significant portion of the population is not even prepared for a basic emergency that would last for just a few days…

44 percent don’t have first-aid kits 48 percent lack emergency supplies 53 percent do not have a minimum three-day supply of nonperishable food and water at home 55 percent believe local authorities will come to their rescue if disaster strikes 52 percent have not designated a family meeting place if they are separated during an emergency 42 percent do not know the phone numbers of all of their immediate family members 21 percent don’t know if their workplace has an emergency preparedness plan 37 percent do not have a list of the drugs they are taking 52 percent do not have copies of health insurance documents

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I also like the paragraph of Normalcy Bias:

The normalcy bias, or normality bias, refers to amental state people enter when facing a disaster. It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.
1 posted on 04/09/2014 4:36:30 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 04/09/2014 4:37:05 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

No need to prepare. Rumors of USA demise are grossly exaggerated.


3 posted on 04/09/2014 4:37:49 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: Kartographer
Why worry?

Obama, the smartest person ever, is only five years into his term as Ruler of the Free World, so we have at least 20 years of absolute security to look forward to, with him making all those pesky decisions so we don't have to. The Constitution is so 18th century. Now that we have finally left that old scrap of parchment behind, there is nothing to restrain our Leader or to prevent him from doing as he knows he must for our own good.

Welcome to Obamaworld. Why bother preparing when nothing could possibly go wrong?

4 posted on 04/09/2014 4:45:00 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Kartographer

i have at least 1000.00,a car,working fridge,a PC and 2 cell phones.I should be ok on the way to ft.myers airport.


5 posted on 04/09/2014 4:48:13 PM PDT by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: Kartographer

“52 percent do not have copies of health insurance documents”

Don’t think insurance plays a part in SHTF.


6 posted on 04/09/2014 4:50:11 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Kartographer

Theoretically, by this list I am well ahead of 99% on this. Truth is, I could be dead in a week after SHTF depending on how it plays out where I live.

Best the average person can do is the solid basic stuff and hope that the fickle finger of fate points at someone else when it happens.

Oh, and be well armed. If you’re are going to go down, make sure you have plenty of company.


7 posted on 04/09/2014 4:50:50 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Kartographer

Why do I need a first aid kit for economic collapse? Congress already puts bandaids on our economy to no avail.


8 posted on 04/09/2014 4:51:26 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: CodeToad

I’ve got the ObamaCare hotline number. If some sort of economic collapse happens and I need medical care I’m sure they’ll come to my house immediately. Obama said they’d take care of me.


9 posted on 04/09/2014 4:54:06 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Fledermaus

Ta patch up yer leaky wallet?


10 posted on 04/09/2014 4:58:58 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: CodeToad

I agree with you there, but if say you relocate and it’s just a temporary and a more regional event (Think Huricane) and you get sick in you BOL, you may need such information. Of course you could always claim to be an illegal and get treatment free! ;-)


11 posted on 04/09/2014 5:06:32 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I think 95% of Americans are already living in their *normality bias* stage. Completely oblivious.


12 posted on 04/09/2014 5:29:18 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Kartographer

“The normalcy bias, or normality bias, refers to amental state people enter when facing a disaster. It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects.”

Nice post. The “normalcy bias” works in our favor, for it means that merchants will still respect the US Dollar (although they may charge more). Depending on the event, people will have 3 days (maybe less) to spend those dollars, before society (i.e., merchants) figure out that the dollar is WORTHLESS.

If you know that’s coming, you can STOCK UP, but you have to have the cash first (i.e., no ATMs) and be REALLY FAST about it.


13 posted on 04/09/2014 5:36:13 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Kartographer

No one is prepared for a total financial collapse if it happens. Nobody.

Rural America comes close, but lets pray it does not come to the point where we are tested on this.


14 posted on 04/09/2014 5:56:51 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Kartographer

Since we are heading into tornado season, I needed this heads-up!


15 posted on 04/09/2014 6:04:06 PM PDT by Cloverfarm
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To: Texas Fossil

Not even rural America. Having the land does not equate to being able to plant and harvest it. It takes fuel and electricity—resources that if gone, render the farmer in a tough situation as well. Having animals will help, but they still need to be fed and watered. Watering would be critical. No power, no water. Yes, the famer could last longer, perhaps, but the effects would quickly catch up.


16 posted on 04/09/2014 6:06:19 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: SgtHooper

We still have windmills. We have large electric generators. We have fuel storage. Grain storage. And yes, it would still be very tough. My ancestors survived here with much much less for a long time. They came to this county in 1889. Weathered a similar drought from 1895-1898. Yes, we have seen this weather pattern before.

The AGW crowd are nothing but con-artists.

I do not look for need for total self sufficiency to be necessary, but we could be if we had to.

There is wild game here, my brother has chickens, we normally have cattle but sold them 3 years ago. Probably will rebuy some this year. Drought is receding but not over yet.


17 posted on 04/09/2014 6:25:49 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Jane Long

“I think 95% of Americans are already living in their *normality bias* stage. Completely oblivious.”

Ha, you are so right! Most head no clue that we have a massive debt, our rights are eroding with every executive order, and this government couldn’t care less about the people or the Constitution.


18 posted on 04/09/2014 6:36:06 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Jane Long; BobL; All

A great article on nomalcy bias fro ChocChipCookie’s site:

Normalcy Bias: It’s All in Your Head

http://thesurvivalmom.com/normalcy-bias/


19 posted on 04/09/2014 6:36:42 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Electricity, phones, running water, indoor bathrooms?

All just a passing fad.

I grew up for the first 7 years without these unneeded luxuries.

No big deal.

20 posted on 04/09/2014 6:54:54 PM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for posting that link. Perfect.


21 posted on 04/09/2014 7:00:50 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Pollster1

In “The Giver” trailer, there is a terrifying line straight out of liberal theology. Meryl Streep, I believe, utters it, which makes it all the more apt.
“When people are given a choice, they make the wrong one. So we do not give them one.”


22 posted on 04/09/2014 7:03:34 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: entropy12; Kartographer
No need to prepare. Rumors of USA demise are grossly exaggerated.

I agree. Could you spare some change?

23 posted on 04/09/2014 7:06:22 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Kartographer

M4L


24 posted on 04/09/2014 7:18:53 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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To: Kartographer

For problems where SHTF hasn’t fully developed, sure, insurance and all kinds of business-as-usual things apply.


25 posted on 04/09/2014 7:18:53 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hi TSL...

I have a couple of nickels in my pocket...need me to share them with you?

Oh dear then neither of us would have 2 nickels to “rub together”.


26 posted on 04/09/2014 7:49:41 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: Kartographer

I guess I have abnormalcy bias. LOL I am always thinking of stuff that could happen, and thinking through how our plans would help us get through, and if there is something additional needed.


27 posted on 04/09/2014 8:06:39 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Amen to that. Every day that passes, is a gift - another day to get better prepared, but no one can be 100% prepared, because there are so many possibilities.

I have an advantage, because I live in rural area, and when I was growing up, I stayed with my grandparents, who didn’t have indoor plumbing and few modern conveniences.

Even so, they had more than my granny had growing up. I always asked her to tell me what it was like when she grew up, so she would tell me how it was with no electricity and other stuff.

I sincerely hope that we are not tested on this and many other scenarios. Dealing with natural disasters is more than enough for me.


28 posted on 04/09/2014 8:18:06 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I agree. People have lived for thousands of years on this earth without electricity, cars, washing machines, air conditioners.

Heck I remember when the ice box was a modern convenience.LOL


29 posted on 04/09/2014 8:21:06 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

I think part of the problem is that when we refer to “SHTF” sorts of events we each have different ideas of what that means. There’s lots of ways for the S to hit the F. There’s different kinds of S that could hit lots of different kinds of F.

I think too many people are influenced by Hollywood ideas of post-apocalyptic America that are long on drama but light on probability.

We’ll be doing really well if we can get most people prepped for even a few weeks of self-reliance. That alone would be a huge step.


30 posted on 04/09/2014 8:36:02 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Kartographer
Of course you could always claim to be an illegal and get treatment free!

Start by learning a new accent?

31 posted on 04/09/2014 8:38:27 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: greeneyes
I have a big fat dog and two cats to eat, 250 gallons of aquarium water and enough fire wood to boil it all. I got it made.
32 posted on 04/09/2014 8:38:29 PM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I think the Amish and the folks like them are fairly well prepared, except for those on critical medicines since in most cases the government will not allow you to stockpile. Heaven help folks with serious diabetes or heart conditions, etc. My guess though is that there will be small pockets that survive quite well. The Amish in Smyrna Maine seem largely self sufficient as one example.


33 posted on 04/09/2014 8:59:11 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: right way right

I’d call that a good start.LOL I’ve got canned chickens, pork, tuna, salmon, clams, dehydrated meats, to last a year. We also have lots of rice,beans, and other staples for at least a year. Now we are working on expanding our normal 3 month pantry to a one year pantry for all our favorites.

I also have 24 gallons of bottled water, and 2000 gallons of pool water, and 130 gallons of rain barrel water, and a well. We have 3 backup ways of getting the well water in case the electricity goes off.

We have several ranks of firewood, and two years of future firewood on our extra lot, and about 10 years worth on our land out of town which is by a small stream. Our property line goes to the middle of the stream.

I am thinking we might have the water thing squared away. Still working on the food supply and other stuff. It’s a work in process, and we do use the stuff regulary.

We also started growing and preserving our own food. Every year our pantry has a bit more of homegrown stuff versus stuff we used to buy in the supermarket.


34 posted on 04/09/2014 9:02:03 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: MSF BU

insulin? My wife buys her’s in a 5 pack of pen injectors. They last almost 1 month per pen. So her perscription is for 4-5 months. Now that is not forever, but it is quite a while.

Until the pen is opened, it has shelf life. Once it is opened it is good for 30 days. She uses one up in just under the 30 days, so no waste.

She only recently started taking shots, before it was pills. She could probably survive without the shots, by seriously restricting her sugar intake and her diet.


35 posted on 04/09/2014 9:19:02 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: greeneyes

Ammo might be needed if the guy up stream dams the river. That’s what happened here and no one was able to stop it.


36 posted on 04/09/2014 9:44:44 PM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

Never talk about that on the internet. It’s a key word for federal snooperalies.LOL

That stream would be a last resort, but it only takes one tiny hole to eventually bring down a dam.


37 posted on 04/09/2014 9:51:36 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Texas Fossil
You're good as you can be. The huntin' thing, you know your area better than me. Here in SW PA close to the WV border, very rural, lots of deer, turkey, bunnies. During the Depression there was NO DEER, NO TURKEYS, NO RABBITS, NO NOTHING.
38 posted on 04/09/2014 11:46:55 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Kartographer

Excellent, thanks Kart. The example of Jews in Germany may be the best. The warning signs were EVERYWHERE for them, but since nothing like the holocaust had ever happened, the Jews figured it was all bluster.

That’s why words mean things (as Rush always says), and you ignore them at your own peril. When I was in college, during the Cold War, I would read what the left published and go to their lectures. They weren’t talking about equal pay for women, the minimum wage, or contraceptive coverage - they were talking about revolution in the United States, violent revolution. Most people in college giggled at them and were more busy with classes. But they wanted their revolution...and the only thing that stopped them was the inability to whip up the country enough. Now they are today’s generation of Democrats - but NOTHING has changed inside their hearts, they are still very dangerous people, if they ever get the means to act on it.


39 posted on 04/10/2014 1:46:48 AM PDT by BobL
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To: SgtHooper; Texas Fossil

Until the FedGov comes along and just simply takes what’s yours, “For the Common Good”. The Ant always gets the shaft from the Grasshoppers.


40 posted on 04/10/2014 4:58:39 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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To: Eagles6

My family has owned/operated farms in this county since 1889. Before that in Coryell Co.

I hunted here as a kid. We have far more game today than any time in my life. Not many people. County is <6,000 people.

Now, there are a lot of outside hunters who come here from Dallas and other cities. Some from out of State.

Like most rural areas, “A country boy can survive” hee hee hee

Have friends from my youth that hunt. Some of the families here have been friends for 120+ years.

But life might be boring if it came to that.


41 posted on 04/10/2014 5:50:57 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

Some times the ants shoot back.


42 posted on 04/10/2014 5:52:38 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: BobL

Totally agree.

Evil dangerous people. Vermin.


43 posted on 04/10/2014 5:55:48 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Hence my stipulation that it be serious diabetes. The number of people on some type of “happy pill” alone is staggering. I imagine what will happen during a time of national crisis if the happy pills are not distributed.


44 posted on 04/10/2014 9:49:38 AM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: MSF BU

Wife’s is more than happy pill, but she could survive but be impaired by changing diet and strictly adhering.


45 posted on 04/10/2014 9:51:32 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Yes, you will survive. Have the real estate to raise animals is a key advantage, plus the ability to see intruders at a distance. My grandparents hit MN in 1878, and we still have the farm, albeit considerably downsized. We were raised there and like you lived through all sorts of life experiences. If we had to we’d head back there to make a go of it. :-)


46 posted on 04/10/2014 1:22:16 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Texas Fossil

That’s my point. When everybody is hunting to survive there will be very little game generally. The more rural you are the better.


47 posted on 04/10/2014 1:42:21 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Eagles6

I read somewhere that US bushmeat would last about two months.


48 posted on 04/10/2014 1:51:16 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: CodeToad

>>Don’t think insurance plays a part in SHTF.<<

Most people think SHTF = “Mad Max.”

In fact, this list s for natural disasters. For example, I was in the SF Valley when the Northridge quake hit. None of the stores in the Valley were open.

But my friend in Hollywood had no such problems and brought me a few cases of beer (or course we drank most of them ourselves, but still...).

Many localized disasters (you can include riots like the L.A. Riots I also got to experience) still require things like cash, insurance documents, proof of ownership, etc.

You better have 2 weeks supplies, not just 3 days as the article says.


49 posted on 04/10/2014 3:15:03 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: Texas Fossil

“...lets pray it does not come to the point where we are tested on this.”

Amen.


50 posted on 04/10/2014 6:34:36 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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