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The "Gospel of Jesus' Wife" Is Most Likely Not a Modern Fake
Smithsonian Magazine ^ | 4-10-2014 | Colin Schultz

Posted on 04/11/2014 6:35:46 AM PDT by Renfield

In 2012, Harvard researcher Karen King revealed the "Gospel of Jesus' Wife."

A small piece of papyrus, the lightly worn document was written in Coptic Egyptian, with parts missing and ink faded, and didn't say much. But what it did say, wrote Ariel Sabar in Smithsonian Magazine two years ago was enough to “send jolts through the world of biblical scholarship—and beyond.”

The fragment’s 33 words, scattered across 14 incomplete lines, leave a good deal to interpretation. But in King’s analysis, and as she argues in a forthcoming article in the Harvard Theological Review, the “wife” Jesus refers to is probably Mary Magdalene, and Jesus appears to be defending her against someone, perhaps one of the male disciples.

“She will be able to be my disciple,” Jesus replies. Then, two lines later, he says: “I dwell with her.”

The papyrus was a stunner: the first and only known text from antiquity to depict a married Jesus.

The new document had a curious past. It was given to King by an anonymous source, and, as Sabar notes, some pieces of the papyrus' history seemed a little too convenient. It didn't take long for the suggestion that the new gospel was a forgery to arise. (Indeed, the possibility was a reservation of King's.)

According to new research, however, scientists are now largely certain that the document is a true piece of early text, and not a modern forgery. Spectroscopic analysis of the ink, says the New York Times, revealed the text was from thousands of years ago.....

(Excerpt) Read more at smithsonianmag.com ...


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To: dangus

Highly doubtful. It’s not an Arabic text.


41 posted on 04/11/2014 7:42:56 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Arabic text didn’t come the exclusive language of Islam until after the 8th century.


42 posted on 04/11/2014 7:45:10 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
“send jolts through the world of biblical scholarship—and beyond.” Jolts? More likely yawns.

Oh, there are jolts coming. Including one deception that will be so believable that even God's elect might be fooled, if that were possible. Best to stay vigilant and not complacent.
43 posted on 04/11/2014 7:46:56 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: wideawake
If the earliest the parchment could be from is 650AD, how could it be "thousands of years" old. Reporters should not be expected to be epigraphers, but they should be expected to be proficient in 4th grade math.

They are too accustomed to assigning old age to objects. I'm surprised it wasn't said to be 411 million years old.
44 posted on 04/11/2014 7:50:59 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: dangus
Figure it out folks: it’s Muslim.

Why, was Mrs. Jesus nine years old?


45 posted on 04/11/2014 7:53:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

Anybody know the whereabouts of Dan Rather in and around AD 100?


46 posted on 04/11/2014 8:02:10 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: boycott

The Koran wasn’t even codified until the 8th century well after the death of Momo.


47 posted on 04/11/2014 8:08:03 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Renfield
Indeed, this makes perfect sense. There can no longer be doubt that the four evangelists clearly loved Jesus, but thought he was so wrong to include women in his world.

They dutifully reported the importance he felt women were in his ministry. They just thought that was an error. When they were reporting on Jesus' life, therefore, it stands to reason they would omit his wife, just air brush her from the picture. They must have been right, too, because they all did it. Since they represent 100% of the evangelists of The Good News, it's a settled view.

What the heck, the synoptic gospels were written so soon after Jesus' death that those evangelists would know as first hand eye witnesses that Mrs. Christ had to be expunged if Jesus' life was to have the proper impact. And God knows Jesus certainly would be clueless on impacts and invitations and vocations.

John came along so far down the road that he was probably senile when he wrote his. Nevertheless, some of his writings have convinced me that Jesus thought there was hope for salvation for even such as me i.e. John wrote his for me, personally.

Maybe we can get The Good Book fixed in the next edition.

48 posted on 04/11/2014 8:14:08 AM PDT by stevem
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To: Durus

The Koran wasn’t even codified until the 8th century well after the death of Momo.


Yes. I know. mohamMadMan was illiterate so he certainly didn’t write it.

My point was that the koran could be considered ancient. It means little to me just like the gnostics and these new ancient documents.


49 posted on 04/11/2014 8:16:19 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks Renfield.

50 posted on 04/11/2014 8:30:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Renfield

Before anyone gets too worked up over this, does anyone realize how many people were named Jesus back then? Or even today for that matter.

I can honestly type: “A few years ago I was surprise to run into Jesus and his wife at the folk life festival.”

Of course when we went to high school his name was pronounced “hey-sus” but written out you really can’t tell the difference.


51 posted on 04/11/2014 8:35:48 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Forward the Light Brigade; cloudmountain; 9YearLurker; Hegewisch Dupa; stevem; varmintman

Thanks!


52 posted on 04/11/2014 8:40:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; P-Marlowe; Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; ...
We can set our clocks by the media's efforts to misrepresent some document....it must be nearing either Christmas or Easter

The headline: "Not a modern fake"

No place in the Smithsonian article do these charlatans point out that this little fragment has been dated from 600-900 ad. ""An analysis published by American researchers in April 2014 showed that the fragment is ancient and dates to between the sixth and ninth centuries."

It is not thousands of years old. In fact, it is roughly 750 years after Christ's resurrection.

But...they knew that. And they know they're not saying what they know.

This article is a fake, a sham...a shame.

It's like me writing down a fake quote from an early American. Did you know that Thomas Jefferson said, "Burger King is my favorite hamburger."

There you have it. TJefferson's own words written by me 250 years later.

Surely, that makes it an accurate quote.

53 posted on 04/11/2014 8:46:17 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: dangus
Arabic text didn’t come the exclusive language of Islam until after the 8th century.

The Muslims who invaded Egypt and enslaved Egypt's Coptic population did not write in Greek or in Coptic.

They were Arabs, and the ones who could write wrote in Arabic.

There are no Muslim texts from the period in either Greek or Coptic.

54 posted on 04/11/2014 8:55:44 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Renfield

There are many forgeries from antiquity. Also, some gnostic groups taught Jesus was married and Mormonism still teaches Jesus was probably married and a polygamist.


55 posted on 04/11/2014 8:57:41 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: Renfield

and..... the Holy Grail, the vessel containing the blood of Christ, is the son of Mary aka Mary Magdalene, that was in the south of France where she fled after the crucifixion


56 posted on 04/11/2014 9:58:18 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: dangus
I think not. If it were written by Muslims, it would have been written in Arabic, not Coptic. Nor would the Muslims have considered it Scripture, since the canon of the Koran was already settled by Uthman ibn Affan (600's) and they would never have added extra-Koranic "scripture."

Maybe a copy of some trifle of Gnosticism.

57 posted on 04/11/2014 10:35:00 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Faith with love is the faith of Christians; without love, it is the faith of demons." - Ven. Bede)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

or old paper with old materials to make a new fake.

Asians have been making new ancent wood carvings for years. Experts have a probling telling the real vs fake.

I am not buying this.

Smithsonian has been wrong many times. (see orvil and Wilbur wright)


58 posted on 04/11/2014 10:37:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Meaning no respect for you personally, but I find it hard to imagine that a "monk" (Catholic? Orthodox?) would have been so oblivious of his Incarnation (Virgin birth) and His Passion (suffering and death) when these are the essential elements of our Salvation.

True, His message and life are great; but without His being the Incarnate God and Crucified Savior, his words would remain the message of a very good carpenter who perhaps dabbled in hallucinogens.

59 posted on 04/11/2014 10:41:55 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Faith with love is the faith of Christians; without love, it is the faith of demons." - Ven. Bede)
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To: Renfield

Did not know the National Enquirer was in print then


60 posted on 04/11/2014 10:48:41 AM PDT by ballplayer
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