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Researchers Say Neanderthals Were Attentive, Loving Parents
BioNews ^ | April 11, 2014 | Charles Moore

Posted on 04/12/2014 10:34:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

...archaeologists at the University of York are challenging the traditional view that Neanderthal childhood was, in Hobbesian terms, difficult, nasty, brutish and short, fraught with continual fear and danger of violent death...

The research team say there is evidence that Neanderthals cared for their sick and injured children for months and often years. A study of child burials, meanwhile, reveals that the young may have been given particular attention when they died, with generally more elaborate graves than older individuals.

Neanderthal groups, believed based on fossil findings to have ranged throughout Europe, Asia Minor and into central Asia, were typically small and relatively isolated, suggesting to the research team important implications for the social and emotional context of childhood. Living in rugged terrain, there would have been little selection pressure on overcoming the tendency to avoid outside groups with a consequent natural emotional focus on close internal connections.

(Excerpt) Read more at bionews-tx.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
Researchers Say Neanderthals Were Attentive, Loving Parents

1 posted on 04/12/2014 10:34:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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Neanderthals were no strangers to good parenting
Date: April 9, 2014
Source: University of York
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/04/140409093947.htm


2 posted on 04/12/2014 10:35:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 240B; 75thOVI; Adder; albertp; asgardshill; At the Window; bitt; blu; BradyLS; cajungirl; ...
Happy Saturday, all, it's the weekly Digest ping.

3 posted on 04/12/2014 10:36:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

So much more advanced and civilized than Obama voters


4 posted on 04/12/2014 10:39:30 AM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: SunkenCiv

If you’re interested...I found this an informative and entertaining series of lectures.
http://www.audible.com/pd/Science-Technology/The-Rise-of-Humans-Great-Scientific-Debates-Audiobook/B00DII0VK0


5 posted on 04/12/2014 10:39:56 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: SunkenCiv
Well, of course! Kids have known that since the 60's!


6 posted on 04/12/2014 10:40:11 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: al baby

better looking too


7 posted on 04/12/2014 10:41:42 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe. [pp 126-127]

8 posted on 04/12/2014 10:43:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: gorush

Thanks, I’ll check it out!


9 posted on 04/12/2014 10:43:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Pure BS.

Such long returns of conjecture from such small investment in facts.

This fake "science" is 99% opinion from people who panic at the thought of a real job. And have never produced anything truly useful.

10 posted on 04/12/2014 10:45:22 AM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: publius911

Honestly. Who the f- knows? Nobody. Who can ever know? Nobody.


11 posted on 04/12/2014 10:52:06 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: publius911

Think about it. Most species are attentive, loving parents. Birds, skunks, raccoon, wolves, some fishes, elephants... I don’t know why Neanderthals would be any different.


12 posted on 04/12/2014 10:55:03 AM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: SunkenCiv

Most “researchers” are paid minions for globalism.

Most “research” is complete garbage.


13 posted on 04/12/2014 10:56:46 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: COBOL2Java

Where are the Flintstone’s today? Wilma and Fred’s selfish lifestyle choices caused their extinction. Sure, they did a great job with Pebbles, but they produced less than 2.2 children needed for population sustainability and we have no evidence that spoiled rotten Bambam and Pebbles ever bothered to reproduce.


14 posted on 04/12/2014 10:57:13 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SunkenCiv

Come to think of it, this seems like a sensible take on the matter.

After all, dogs, cats, wolves, lions, and just about every other animal treat their young with loving care. So, why wouldn’t Neanderthals?

I think the earlier view of the matter was simply another brainless bow to Darwin and his “survival of the fittest.”

Sure, there is survival of the fittest, which leads to evolution within any species. (Whether general evolution accounts for all life forms is another matter, not really relevant here.) But that doesn’t mean that parents have to be cruel to their kids. That’s not necessary for the basic principal to work.


15 posted on 04/12/2014 11:00:38 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: publius911
Pure BS.

Agreed. How could they assign cultural attributes to a species they have no evidence to support? Yes, some tribes buried their dead including children, however was that a cultural norm?!?

Would people today assign the traits of muslims towards their women to the whole of modern man?

Would that be accurate?

Bunk.

16 posted on 04/12/2014 11:04:09 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SunkenCiv

This one is very good as well...better, in fact...IMHO.
http://www.audible.com/pd/History/The-Other-Side-of-History-Daily-Life-in-the-Ancient-World-Audiobook/B00DDVPXJG/ref=a_pd_Scienc_c8_3_sim_auth


17 posted on 04/12/2014 11:10:21 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: SunkenCiv

And they never told their children no.

All societies were/are superior to contemporary America.

Because, racists, oil and climate change.


18 posted on 04/12/2014 11:11:50 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: gorush

I’ve enjoyed some of the Great Courses series over the years, some are very nearly junk, but I’m glad to see another (and cheaper) option online. Thanks again!


19 posted on 04/12/2014 11:40:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cicero

Actually, Virchow, the dodo who escalated in his dislike for the prospect of Neandertal man, didn’t hold with the idea of evolution; and the British are Darwin-indoctrinated, and reject any fossil men who are not “gracile” and “anatomically modern”; between those two at seeming cross-purposes (and both views are inherently racist) there’s been an absolutely nonsensical line of BS about our Neandertal ancestors.


20 posted on 04/12/2014 11:44:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: publius911; PieterCasparzen

Just like both your posts.


21 posted on 04/12/2014 11:45:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Chaka Agrees.

22 posted on 04/12/2014 11:49:11 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: eartrumpet; Cicero

Yeah, it’s not exactly a leap of faith to come to the researchers’ conclusion, and it’s long overdue. Neandertals have been known to have purposefully buried their dead for decades, and known to have cared for older and/or disabled family members. The long line of foolishness about how they couldn’t talk, or were so fugly they were hunted out, or how they weren’t able to walk as fast, or even (my personal favorite) that they didn’t eat any vegetables (I guess they died of constipation), and all those ridiculous calumnies have been shown one after the other to be fabrications. It’s surprising that such bigotry persists.


23 posted on 04/12/2014 11:50:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: servo1969
You're right, of course: Who knows? I mean, how could anyone possibly know?

I think this "theory" -- conjecture, really -- is much more a statement about today's society. That Neanderthals 'way back when were better at raising kids than are their modern counterparts.

24 posted on 04/12/2014 11:59:48 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: glennaro

They were better because they allowed Kommon Kore in their cave-schools.


25 posted on 04/12/2014 1:43:04 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: SunkenCiv
DNA Reveals Neanderthal Redheads
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2018955/posts

London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/1322006/posts

European Neanderthals had ginger hair and freckles [ and Type O blood ]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2156528/posts

Ancient DNA Reveals Neandertals With Red Hair, Fair Complexions
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1917675/posts I like redheads, by the way, and the content above tends to make redheads laugh. ;-)


26 posted on 04/12/2014 2:12:42 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Neanderthals Roamed As Far As Siberia
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1904573/posts
New Scientist ^ | 9-30-2007 | Roxanne Khamsi
"Researchers say the genetic sequence of an adolescent Neanderthal found in southern Siberia closely matches that of Neanderthals found in western Europe, suggesting that this close relative of modern humans migrated very long distances."

Siberian Graveyard's Secret (More Redheads)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053986/posts
International Herald Tribune ^ | 1-8-2003
"In a medieval Siberian graveyard a few miles south of the Arctic Circle, Russian scientists have unearthed mummies roughly 1,000 years old, clad in copper masks, hoops and plates - burial rites that archaeologists say they have never seen before...In the remains of a metalworking shop, the researchers excavated a wooden sarcophagus with the best-preserved mummy of all, a red-haired man covered chest to foot in copper plate and laid out with an iron hatchet, well-preserved furs and a bronze bear's head buckle."


27 posted on 04/12/2014 2:16:01 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Neanderthal and Human Matings Get a Date
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2921264/posts

Aw, that’s nothin’ new. ;-)


28 posted on 04/12/2014 2:16:55 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Of course we are.


29 posted on 04/12/2014 3:53:20 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: SunkenCiv

Neanderthals were altogether a great, great group of people.


30 posted on 04/12/2014 3:54:54 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: familyop

I do too, and it’s in the ancestry in at least one line. :’) Thanks for the reiteration of that nice collection of FR links.


31 posted on 04/12/2014 7:00:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: familyop; gusopol3; truth_seeker

:’D


32 posted on 04/12/2014 7:02:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Evolutionists used to tell a quite different story about neanderthals. And if you didn’t believe it, you were a science-denier.


33 posted on 04/12/2014 9:46:28 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: SunkenCiv

“What we’re gonna do right here is go back, way back, back into time.....”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgktcySf_aw


34 posted on 04/12/2014 9:52:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz6IpmmYSXA


35 posted on 04/12/2014 10:20:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

The British twits still claim their master-race model applies, maybe that’s what you’re complaining about?


36 posted on 04/12/2014 10:22:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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