Skip to comments.Bundy Boots the BLM – Is This a Significant Moment?
Posted on 04/14/2014 6:57:22 AM PDT by B4Ranch
By Staff Report - April 14, 2014
Nevada Rancher: 'The Citizens Of America' Got My Cattle Back ... After a tense standoff with the Bureau of Land Management, the Nevada Rancher at the center of the disagreement proclaimed that "the citizens of America" got his cattle back. Rancher Cliven Bundy reached a deal with the BLM Saturday allowing the cattle that had been removed from the BLM land to be released back onto the federal lands. But Bundy is still on the hook for the fees he owes for having the animals on the land in the first place. "There is no deal here. The citizens of America and Clark County went and took their cattle. There was no negotiations. They took these cattle. They are in possession of these cattle and I expect them to come home soon," Bundy told KLAS-TV. CBS
Dominant Social Theme: The revolution has begun.
Free-Market Analysis: Some in the alternative media have been celebrating the defeat of the Bureau of Land Management, which unsuccessfully attacked rancher Cliven Bundy for not paying grazing fees. This analysis attempts to ascertain the importance of the Bundy "victory."
After national coverage and the convergence of numerous US citizens on the Bundy ranch to show their support, BLM backed down. They removed the armed enforcers, their trucks and even, reportedly, gave back the cattle that were confiscated.
Alex Jones celebrated at Infowars, and Drudge posted numerous headlines on the affair. The controversy expanded when it was reported that BLM was moving on Bundy in part to open up land for an expanding Chinese solar farm.
The standoff Saturday brought hundreds of protesters who attempted to storm the BLM's cattle gate, but weren't successful. Some protesters were even armed with weapons. I-15 was closed in both directions at one point because protesters were blocking the freeway.
Roughly two dozen police officers and a SWAT unit were at the scene in Mesquite to help keep the peace. "We had a lot of fears. Individuals being shot, trampled. Individuals being run over on the highway. So it took a lot of resources, a lot of resources to associate with this," Assistant Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said to KLAS-TV.
The fight between Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management widened into a debate about states' rights and federal land-use policy. The dispute that ultimately triggered the roundup dates to 1993, when the bureau cited concern for the federally protected tortoise in the region. The bureau revoked Bundy's grazing rights after he stopped paying grazing fees and disregarded federal court orders to remove his animals.
... The 400 cows gathered during the roundup were short of the BLM's goal of 900 cows that it says have been trespassing on U.S. land without required grazing permits for over 20 years. Bundy, 67, doesn't recognize federal authority on land he insists belongs to Nevada.
His Mormon family has operated a ranch since the 1870s near the small town of Bunkerville and the Utah and Arizona lines. "Good morning America, good morning world, isn't it a beautiful day in Bunkerville?" Bundy told a cheering crowd after his cattle were released, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal.
The crowd protesting Saturday recited the pledge of allegiance, and many offered prayers. Others waved placards reading, "This land is your land," and "We teach our children not to bully. How do we teach our government not to be big bullies?" according to the newspaper.
It's the latest skirmish since the 1980s when the Sagebrush Rebellion challenged federal ownership of Nevada rangeland ranchers said was rightfully theirs. A federal judge in Las Vegas first ordered Bundy to remove his trespassing cattle in 1998.
Despite the current state of affairs, BLM's decision to disengage may not be as final and decisive as it first appears. Its press release said as much. There are numerous other ranchers who interact regularly with the BLM, and if the Bundy capitulation is seen as precedent-setting then the US federal government might lose control of lands that fedgov has been acquiring for decades.
The US federal government's power is vastly enhanced by land management and the federal government is said to control up to one-third of US lands in the "lower 48." There are at least three reasons why land control is so important.
Such control ...
Every part of the US governmental apparatus is at risk if the Bundys can claim a continued victory. Any single setback of this magnitude threatens to unravel the entire laboriously constructed system of federal legislative, judicial and executive command.
The entire globalist edifice depends on ever-expanding government control of the private sector. If the power elite running Western governments behind the scenes cannot count on expanding and untrammeled government authority then the whole internationalist agenda is put at risk.
So while it was inspiring to see people on horseback facing down BLM enforcers, the chances that significant change will be engendered via these kinds of confrontations is certainly questionable.
One can even argue that top elites are actively hoping for the kind of chaos and civil destruction that such dramatic clashes will inevitably give rise to. One could even ask if the Bundy confrontation itself was manufactured.
We are sure that real change will come as people take individual human action to opt out of the system psychologically as well as professionally. This, in fact, IS happening as a natural occurrence of the current information revolution. Elite memes are crumbling; dominant social themes such as global warming are increasingly rejected. Even the war on terror has not proven convincing.
Societies usually do not crumble via internal, physical revolution that only provides a justification for a bigger and more invasive police state. Societies DO collapse when people lose their belief that the sociopolitical and economic structure is beneficial to them.
What has been set into motion by the Internet Reformation has decades to go yet. Government authorities have every reason to fight the physical confrontations manifested by the Internet and no doubt they will. But it is the larger and likely unstoppable shift in citizen sentiment regarding basic building blocks of society that shall create real change.
This change will not happen so dramatically as recent events, and will evolve out of the dissemination of knowledge about the Way the World Really works. One need only consider the sociopolitical and economic conversation today in the West especially in the US versus a decade ago. The differences are startling. They will continue even if more visible evidences of resistance are defused.
The Internet is a process not an episode.
All ye Feudal Serfs bow down to thine Feudal Lords at the Bureau of Feudal Land Management, (BFLM), who own the land beneath thy feet!
Commune-Style Obamantion forever!
The govt will not only do this, they will reappear in a massive show of force shutting down roads for miles with a clear delineated perimeter - then, and only then will the govt/contracted (deniability) snipers get the green light....far away from the cameras
the BLM will be back..
Overall I think this is a good summary. The facts are stated accurately, and you can take the speculation as to motive with as many grains of salt as you wish. But there is no doubt that “this ain’t over”, and that the Feds are not going to simply forget about Bundy and go away never to be heard from again. It is fortunate all around that they realized they had picked a fight they could not win, and that things de-escalated before people got hurt or killed.
The biggest winner of this “victory” is as stated, the “internet revolution”. It may not level the playing field, but the internet sheds light in many corners that otherwise would remain very dark indeed.
Now, consider how easily the darkness returns if the feds have the ability to flip the switch on cellphone towers and broadband connections. Maybe it’s time for the Koch Brothers to get into the satellite business?
OK so the way I see it is he now has 500 head and 150 acres of land to run them on. 150 acres of that land might support 3 to 4 with no supplemental feeding and I’m being generous. Where did he win?
I’ve been asserting for a long time that what the left wants is a return to the feudal system with them as the “neo-nobility”.
I agree. The more gloating over this, the sooner they will be back with much more firepower. I would be very surprised if this ends well.
Bundy Supporters Sound Off on BLM Tyranny
Keep the faith. Our state rep Matt Shea is still there I believe at the ranch or nearby, along with some oathkeepers.
I still do not see a “happy ending” for Bundy. The gubmint will take him to court forever and will in the end, wind up with everything Bundy has now or will have in the future. They will continue pursuing him via legal channels and eventually break his “bank” until they win.
Reid will eventually “win” and get his “solar collector farm” for the Chinese, not to mention his “kickback”. (Too much power for one nasty old man.)
My bet is that the get a court to place liens against his bank accounts and any future sale of cattle. The banks (FDIC) will transfer money with their computers.
Having ignored those fees and the court orders to pay them then I doubt he has any plans on paying them in the future.
It wasn’t big enough. I just listened to 770 am (New York) radio this morning... No mention of the Bundy affair. Imus has a ranch, grew up in cattle country... So something stinks here.
I am so relieved that this phase of Bundy was not a massacre; that real USAians came to protect the Bundys from BLM; that some USAians are awake to the fact that _fees_ for grazing cattle on open land and DC takeover of _massive_ tracts of We the Peoples, common land is a fraud. DC is lawless as it disregards the law/instrution of YHWH, USConstitution and the USDOI (Declaration of Independence). Regardless of what the future holds, some in USA remain true to the true laws.
I am concerned that the reports of ATF in Mesquite are true and they are going to trump up some reason to take away his firearms.
I really doubt they’ll try the brute force approach again. I mean look at the logistics - hundreds of cars passing thru the area on a busy interstate highway, heavily armed and highly agitated (not without reason) protestors, and even with all the people BLM brought in, they were easily out-numbered and out-flanked. All it would have taken is for one trigger-happy person on either side to turn this into a bloodbath. So I do give someone in the federal gummint credit for having the brains to realize they were treading on very thin ice, and to make it back to shore before it cracked underneath them.
Does anyone really doubt the conference rooms and phone lines are buzzing this morning while the BLM comes up with it’s next approach?
I will admit I was mesmerized by the live video streaming from the scene, but when you have people like Alex Jones or this Santilli guy at the forefront, our side is on a slippery slope as well. For example, Santilli called 911 live on his feed demanding the sheriff show up in person, calling it a “national security emergency” and stuff like that. Citizen Journalism is fine, but becoming an actor or inciting others to break the law is not going to help.
Trying to find someone who knows or can find out:
Is/Has the federal government used this land as collateral for the Chinese loans ? Are they preparing for foreclosure?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.