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The Tuesday List (Top 10 Greatest Handgun Cartridges of All Time)
Gun Nuts Media ^ | Scoutmaster

Posted on 04/15/2014 7:51:49 AM PDT by Scoutmaster

The Top 10 Greatest Handgun Cartridges in History

#10 – 10mm

10mm makes the list, but only just barely because it is an interesting historical curiosity in the development of modern handgun ammo. Its history is a complex one full of misinformation, bad science, and government incompetence. To this day, it has a small, but dedicated and often insanely loyal following who still cling to the dying fire of the 10mm.

#9 – .38 S&W

Why is .38 S&W on this list? Not because of its popularity in America, but because under the name .38/200 it served for over 30 years in the holsters of the British and Commonwealth military forces, and soldiered on for years after that as the police revolver of those same nations. It was eventually phased out in Commonwealth use for the 9mm cartridge fired from the BHP. The .38/200 was chambered in a number of revolvers during WW2, with the most notable being the Webley Mk IV and the Enfield No. 2.

#8 – .380 ACP

The .380 makes the list for one simple reason. It is arguably responsible for more indirect fatalities than any other round; as a .380 was used to assassinate Franz Ferdinand and kick off World War 1. It’s an interesting design, and one of the family of “ACP” cartridges invented by the great John Moses Browning, but if it weren’t for that little historical note, wouldn’t have made our list.

#7 – .45 Colt

There are few more evocative phrases in the firearms community than “Colt 45″. Depending on the era, you could be referring either to a 1911, or to the original .45 caliber service pistol, the Colt Single Action Army. The .45 Colt cartridge fired out of the SAA was adopted in 1873 and served for almost 20 years. 140 years later, it’s still a viable choice for handgun hunting, self-defense, and competition shooting. One of the world’s all-time great cartridges, and one of the most versatile.

#6 – .38 Special

I don’t really have to justify the .38 Special making this list, but perhaps I’d have to justify why it’s not in the top 5. While it’s dropped down to number six in favor of other cartridges, one could easily make the argument over brown liquor that it, and not the cartridge selected is the greatest handgun cartridge of all time. Certainly, there is no more ubiquitous revolver cartridge than the .38 Special, and over the 115 years of its existence it has certainly put a lot of food on tables and bodies in the dirt. Like others on the list, despite its age, it is still a viable choice for self-defense even to this day.

#5 – .455 Webley

The cartridge of an Empire. Served from 1891 until World War II, and was used in the legendary and iconic Webley revolvers. It’s been around forever, and at least for me is mentally linked to some of the most interesting periods in history, which are frequently glossed over by American firearms enthusiasts. When I think of the .455 Webley, I think of box formations of British infantrymen fighting off hordes of spear-chucking tribals, with officers standing in the midst of the formations calmly firing their Webleys at targets of opportunity.

#4 – .44 Magnum

“Do you feel lucky?” “Go ahead, make my day.” The .44 Magnum is quite simply, legendary. Its use by Clint Eastwood in the Dirty Harry movies catapulted it from obscure hunting cartridge to American icon, and it’s remained such ever since. Sure, there are handgun cartridges that are better for hunting, and cartridges better for self-defense, but the .44 Magnum is simply one of the greatest cartridges ever.

#3 – .45 ACP

The .45 ACP coming in at #3 will either make people nod their heads in agreement, or howl in indignation that it’s only #3. The .45 ACP was a return to our large caliber roots in the military, replacing a slew of less effective .38 cartridges that the military deemed insufficiently powerful. From its adoption in 1911 until being phased out in favor of the 9mm, the .45 ACP traveled the world and killed interesting people. It’s as American as apple pie and punching hippies.

#2 – .357 Magnum

These days, most guns chambered in .357 Magnum will likely see only a handful of true magnum loads. Most will be shot with .38 Special +P their entire lives, and never see the wear and tear of true magnum force. But the .357 Magnum is perhaps the most versatile cartridge in existence today. Loaded up with 200 grain hardcast bullets and it will kill most things that walk in North America, and yet loaded with 158 grain JHP it’s an effective and controllable self-defense round. Only its relatively short service life keeps it out of the number one spot.

#1 – 9mm Parabellum

You know it had to be the 9mm. It’s 111 years old, and it’s still the caliber of choice for the armies of the first world and discerning law enforcement agencies. Quite simply, for self-defense and law enforcement, the 9mm Luger is the only cartridge you’ll ever need. With modern hollowpoint bullets its terminal performance is the same as other calibers. Despite the complaints, 9mm ball ammo has put a lot of bodies in the dirt over the last 110 years as well. The 9mm Luger is the greatest handgun cartridge of all time.

Source: Gun Nuts Media


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1 posted on 04/15/2014 7:51:49 AM PDT by Scoutmaster
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To: Scoutmaster

.455 above the 45 Colt in historical significance? In
England maybe, but not in ‘Merica!


2 posted on 04/15/2014 7:57:54 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Scoutmaster

9mm is also cheaper than all the other ones listed (I think)...in some cases MUCH cheaper. It would be a shame if cartridge prices deterred gun owners from more range time.


3 posted on 04/15/2014 7:58:45 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "tranparent.")
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To: Scoutmaster

Well there’s a rose in the fisted glove
And eagle flies with the dove
And if you can’t be with the one you love, honey
Love the one you’re with...


4 posted on 04/15/2014 8:00:03 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slavee)
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To: Scoutmaster

#2 – .357 Magnum

I love my GP100 revolver. It is my favorite.


5 posted on 04/15/2014 8:02:29 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Mich Patriot
If you can find it at the local store.

The shelves are empty most of the time. I haven't tried online yet.

Hey, not paying attention I accidentally bought some 9mm NATO.

6 posted on 04/15/2014 8:05:04 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Scoutmaster

The 10mm is a very accurate round, with lots of power. The second point is why target shooters got to dislike it which led to the development of the .40cal.

On another note, I have an irrational hatred of the 9mm. I just can not stand that round.


7 posted on 04/15/2014 8:12:11 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: dhs12345

Gunbot dot net


8 posted on 04/15/2014 8:12:52 AM PDT by KingLudd
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To: dhs12345

I still find 9mm sometimes, but what I haven’t seen in a LONG while is .22LR.


9 posted on 04/15/2014 8:13:17 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "tranparent.")
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To: logic101.net

I used to feel that way, but CC endeared me to the small round.


10 posted on 04/15/2014 8:23:42 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: Scoutmaster
Should read “centerfire cartridges” I've owned all but the Webley and still enjoy my Ruger MK 1 .22 as much as anything.
11 posted on 04/15/2014 8:24:36 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: logic101.net

My choice is 357 SIG.. Fast and Furious


12 posted on 04/15/2014 8:24:49 AM PDT by Tugo (22LR = MAD-MAX WORLD CURRENCY)
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To: Scoutmaster

2, 3, 4, and 7. are my pick...the rest? meh.

#10, the 10mm was superseded by the less powerful, but more versatile .40 S&W. it should be on the list with the .357sig

the 9mm is the most overrated....the elite teams like the Seals and Special forces have replaced the 9 with the tried and true .45ACP (they have miniatureized lots of pocket pistols like the original LCP in .380 and made them into the new LC9....I might consider it then...a little more power in my pocket)

I own and carry a .380....it is not a top ten in my book but is pretty versatile.(minimum caliber I would stake my life on...but still worry about it is not enough)

the .38 S&W is way too weak for just about anything.(I own 2 breaktop S&Ws in this caliber...cool but not something I would stake my life...when shooting at 10 yard targets I can follow the bullet by eye to the targets...SLOW)

the .38 Special is moderately low power but with enough power to be considered something to stake my life on....Dad carried one for 22 years in the NYPD...model 10 S&W

the 41 magnum should be on the list...problem is it never made it in popularity. that was a shame and the blame must be put on the ammo makers not making proper ammo for self defense back in the day...there is better ammo out there now...plus you can reload..

for revolvers.... .357 magnum is the best all around...power and carryability...my Model 19 K Frame is carryable and enough for a 1 shot stopper.

.44 magnum is fun....I took down two large does with this caliber(fell right down...never got up)....I would not want to carry it though. (except Ruger is coming out with the GP 100 in this caliber...it will be a 5 shot revolver and I cant wait to try one...must be a byotch of a recoiler though)

.455 Webley....I guess if your British?? Of all those braketop webley guns that made it back to the good old USA most were rechambered for .45ACP

ancient calibers that were GREAT, but except for CAS, defunct.....44-40 AKA .44WCF, 38-40 AKA .38WCF and .32-20 AKA .32 WCF. these will take down man or deer....the .32WCF being the least of these...


13 posted on 04/15/2014 8:26:06 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Mich Patriot
I still find 9mm sometimes, but what I haven’t seen in a LONG while is .22LR.

The fact that .22 LR ammo once existed and was cheap and plentiful is fast becoming not only history, but legend.

14 posted on 04/15/2014 8:26:46 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: dhs12345

ALL READERS are reminded that “open discussion” gun and ammo threads like this one are also merely another way to get gun-enthusiasts broadcasting into the open their preferences and specific gun loads.

Thereby giving the fed’s yet another list of who-owns-what-weapons and where-they-live-under-what-on-line-ID they regularly use.


15 posted on 04/15/2014 8:26:46 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: logic101.net

The 10mm Magnum has a bit more power. Starline used to make the brass and JD Jones will chamber a Thompson Contender barrel for it.

Amen on the dislike of 9mm.


16 posted on 04/15/2014 8:29:23 AM PDT by alpo (What would Selco do?)
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To: dhs12345

Walmart had 1000 rd boxes on the shelf this morning.


17 posted on 04/15/2014 8:29:44 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: dhs12345

Goes well with the SP 101 and LCR .357.


18 posted on 04/15/2014 8:30:24 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Disambiguator

Cabela’s had 500 rd boxes on line this morning.


19 posted on 04/15/2014 8:31:04 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Scoutmaster

For hiking in the wilderness and stopping bad guys, the 10mm has been my favorite for decades now, right there with the 45LC and a 44 magnum, but age and arthritis have given me an appreciation for 9mm +P loads and high capacity mags. My wilderness time is confined to elk hunting, and my 325 WSM can do the stopping that needs to be done.


20 posted on 04/15/2014 8:32:07 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Scoutmaster
Why only cartridge? One might hold out for the most-like combination, frame + cartridge. Examples:

Ruger MKII + .22LR

S&W J-frame + .38 Spl.

Makarov + 9mm

Colt M1911A + .45 ACP

Colt SAA + .45 Colt

Browning Baby Auto + .25

Etc. (Just sayin'; it takes a well-liked combination to make the bullet worth having -- like the Webley and Walter Mitty, for instance)

21 posted on 04/15/2014 8:34:25 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Renegade
Cabela’s had 500 rd boxes on line this morning.

What was the price per round? I did mention CHEAP and plentiful.

:^)

22 posted on 04/15/2014 8:39:13 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: CrazyIvan
“still enjoy my Ruger MK 1 .22 as much as anything.”

So do I. Fits me well.

My SW Mod 66 in 2.5” with cylinder recesses is beyond accurate for me too albeit not so concealable. My dad gave it too me 40 years ago.

23 posted on 04/15/2014 8:45:30 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Thereby giving the fed’s yet another list of who-owns-what-weapons and where-they-live-under-what-on-line-ID they regularly use.

I like to reminisce because I lost all my firearms in a boating accident.

24 posted on 04/15/2014 8:45:47 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Disambiguator

Indeed. I’m so glad I bought, oh - let’s just say a little bit, before it disappeared.


25 posted on 04/15/2014 8:51:19 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "tranparent.")
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To: Disambiguator

.10 for Norma USA Tac .22lr.


26 posted on 04/15/2014 8:52:31 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: imardmd1
...Makarov + 9mm

Makarov Pistol is incompatible with 9mm Para, it uses proprietary cartridge of intermediate between 380ACP and 9mm power.

27 posted on 04/15/2014 8:56:21 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Point well taken.

Before the accident, my favorite cartridge was .45ACP. And for those who gave advice when I was choosing between a Sig chambered in .357 Sig or .40 S&W, I chose the latter. That too, was before the accident.

Next week's The Tuesday List ranks state foods.

28 posted on 04/15/2014 8:58:37 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: dhs12345

Exactly what my wife owns. And she shoots better than me.


29 posted on 04/15/2014 9:02:56 AM PDT by Rodd OB (24 year Simi Valleyer)
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To: Scoutmaster

***as a .380 was used to assassinate Franz Ferdinand and kick off World War 1.***

I believe the firearm used was an FN 1910 .32 cal. Another source said it was an FN 1900 .32. I used to have one just like it years ago.


30 posted on 04/15/2014 9:04:09 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: KingLudd

Thanks.


31 posted on 04/15/2014 9:05:55 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1158044/posts

Article on Princip’s pistol.


32 posted on 04/15/2014 9:06:53 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Mich Patriot

Ya. What is up with that.

Maybe because it is dirt cheap?


33 posted on 04/15/2014 9:07:08 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Renegade

I have to check! Thanks.

Maybe supply is freeing up.


34 posted on 04/15/2014 9:07:36 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Vaquero

“xcept Ruger is coming out with the GP 100 in this caliber...it will be a 5 shot revolver and I cant wait to try one...”

I hadn’t heard that, but it is great news. I’d hate to fire full power 44 mags thru it, but a 240 grain bullet going at 1000 fps shouldn’t be too bad.


35 posted on 04/15/2014 9:08:07 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Renegade

Exactly.

What I love most about it is that I am fairly accurate with it.


36 posted on 04/15/2014 9:08:33 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Rodd OB

Yup. Very easy to shoot.

Not certain if it is the balance, trigger pull, etc. but it is a easy gun to shoot accurately.


37 posted on 04/15/2014 9:10:18 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; All
I apologize for giving the feds a potential source of ownership information.

Tuesday are an open day on FreeRepublic. I am simply trying to start the Tuesday List, which is intended to feature a weekly interweb "list" on any one of an infinite number of eclectic topics, solely for discussion.

38 posted on 04/15/2014 9:12:15 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: CrazyIvan
I have a Ruger Mk2 with a bull barrel. It is VERY accurate and a very good plinking gun.
39 posted on 04/15/2014 9:13:07 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Scoutmaster
Oooh. Good point.
40 posted on 04/15/2014 9:13:57 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Scoutmaster

The 9mm was never popular in the USA till all those war surplus firearms came back with WWII GIs, and tons of surplus German corrosive ammo began to be dumped on the US market.


41 posted on 04/15/2014 9:14:11 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: DCBryan1

Ya. Me too. :(


42 posted on 04/15/2014 9:16:48 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Samogon

Mak is now my carry gun. It NEVER jams.

And if some hot shot cop takes it away, I’m not out much.


43 posted on 04/15/2014 9:19:06 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Found this on the 1900 pistol. It was not used to kill the archduke, but was used to kill a Russian governor in Finland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_M1900


44 posted on 04/15/2014 9:21:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Scoutmaster

I carry three kinds of handguns when I conceal carry. One is chambered in .357 magnum, another in .45, and the last one in .380.

I carry the .357 and .45 in the winter when the large guns can be easily concealed. The .380 in the summer (and hope that it will do the job if called upon...not sure it will. Summer represents a dangerous period to me.


45 posted on 04/15/2014 9:26:01 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Yo-Yo
I have the Webley .455 that my father bequeathed to me after his death. He used it as his sidearm when he flew over Vietnam. Once, I asked him why he chose a Webley over the standard-issue M1911 or .38 revolvers. He said his hands were too small to comfortably grip a 1911, and he derided the .38 as "a pistol for candy-asses and cheerleaders." (Dad was a serious proponent of stopping power.)

He said the Webley was his choice because he could comfortably grip the weapon (and thus shoot accurately) and its .455 round would put a man down, right now. Dad conceded that the Webley may not have held as many rounds as the 1911, but that all it takes is one round, fired accurately . And Dad could fire accurately from either hand.

46 posted on 04/15/2014 9:27:33 AM PDT by 60Gunner (Fight with your head high, or grovel with your head low.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

The feds already know. Despite protestations to the contrary, they have access to those forms lots of us filled out at the gun shop.


47 posted on 04/15/2014 9:28:54 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: dhs12345

Maybe not as much profit plus they are still catching up with all the other demand? Then again if that were true, it seems they would adjust the price.


48 posted on 04/15/2014 9:33:35 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "tranparent.")
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To: Scoutmaster

Someday the supply of .22LR will catch up to demand. Even hoarders will stop once they have a pallet or two.


49 posted on 04/15/2014 9:36:01 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Yo-Yo

The .45 beat it, it’s #3 vs #5...


50 posted on 04/15/2014 9:50:59 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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