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Microsoft Abandons Windows 8.1: Take Immediate Action Or Be Cut Off Like Windows XP
Forbes ^ | 4/15/2014 @ 7:24AM | Gordon Kelly

Posted on 04/16/2014 12:16:29 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Microsoft has been on a roll lately. Office for iOS (and soon Android), free Windows licenses for small devices, universal Windows and Windows Phone apps, Siri rival Cortana, even a promise to eventually return the start menu before Windows 9. But when it comes to Windows 8, it seems the company has a permanently loaded pistol aimed squarely at its feet.

So it fits that just one week on from the launch of “Windows 8.1 Update 1” (the smart upgrade mouse and keyboard users have long awaited) stupidity would strike once again.

“Windows 8.1 Update is a cumulative update to Windows 8.1,” said Microsoft Senior Product Marketing Manager Ben Hunter in an apparently innocuous blog post aimed at IT professionals. Then came the clanger: “It also becomes the new servicing baseline for Windows 8.1, so next month’s security updates (on May 13th, the next ‘Patch Tuesday’) will be dependent on Windows 8.1 Update.”

In English: If you have not installed Update 1 by 13 May, then Windows 8.1 will no longer receive security updates until you do. This is your 4 week countdown warning. …

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: microsoft; technightmare; windows8; windows8point1
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To: duckman

Why would you not want to take the important update?


21 posted on 04/16/2014 5:41:36 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: kjam22

The update is for x64 bit. How do I find that out? I have 8.1 installed.


22 posted on 04/16/2014 5:50:34 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: duckman

If your machine is running windows 8 you have 64 bit. My advice is almost always to take OS updates.


23 posted on 04/16/2014 5:59:46 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Olog-hai
People bitch about the interface, then when Microsoft fixes the interface, people bitch about having to download it? I don't get people. I don't use windows 8 because I didn't like the interface but I didn't spend any time complaining about it. I didn't like the Unity interface on Ubuntu either so I went with Mint. I don't like the 5.1 Web interface for VMware, so I use the stand alone client. I don't like blackberries but work pays for mine so I use it.
It's time for people to stop treating technology like politics. An operating system / application are just tools. If that tool isn't the most effective for your task find another tool, but for heavens sake stop being so dramatic about it.
24 posted on 04/16/2014 6:07:32 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: kjam22

Thank You.


25 posted on 04/16/2014 6:08:38 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: duckman

No problem. Have a great day!


26 posted on 04/16/2014 6:13:39 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: duckman

Go to: PC Info -> PC Info

This will confirm 64-bit or 32-bit.


27 posted on 04/16/2014 6:17:28 AM PDT by newfreep
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To: newfreep

Thank You.


28 posted on 04/16/2014 6:24:54 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Olog-hai

This is ridiculous.

Shipped versions of 8.1 will have the update.

Besides, who the heck DOESN’T have their PC connected (wired or wireless) for the frequent updates, regardless how you apply them?

Unlicensed owners.


29 posted on 04/16/2014 6:36:33 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: napscoordinator

“I don’t think people who use Apple care one way or the other about Microsoft. We are humored by the disaster known as Microsoft.”

I use them both. I am typing this on a Macbook Air. I have PC’s with Win 7 and Win 8 as well. I like my iPhone and iPads, too. Different tools that do better at some jobs than others. I would never replace my Windows based PC’s for all Apple stuff.

As far as Apple users not caring one way or the other....that just ignores all of the millions of posts by Apple fanboys about how Microsoft is a “disaster”. Kind of like, well...yours.


30 posted on 04/16/2014 7:19:15 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: newfreep
It also amazes me that so many love XP ignoring the fact it had the infamous Blue Screen of Death syndrome with so many crashes.

Guess I was lucky...never had one in 5 years or so on my laptop.

31 posted on 04/16/2014 7:20:01 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: newfreep
Complaining about download speed at 49K? Good grief, are you on a “soup cans with strings” connection? Go to WiFi hotspot (McDonalds, Paneara, etc) for a more normal and faster speed.

IT's A DESKTOP!!!! Dial Up is all that is available where I live. Believe me if high speed were here I'd use it and Dial up worked well on XP.

Even if I had HughestNet the W 8 "CLOUD" and chit Chat programs with MS Corp partners built into W-8 would take a good chunk of the allowed bandwidth. Many persons do not have access to high speed. MS ignores that to make this stinking WINDOWS 8 X-BOX Cross Bread Abomination.

I do have a laptop unfortunately with now unsupported XP I used when I needed to go somewhere for high speed WIFI.

32 posted on 04/16/2014 9:37:28 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: newfreep
Complaining about download speed at 49K? Good grief, are you on a “soup cans with strings” connection? Go to WiFi hotspot (McDonalds, Paneara, etc) for a more normal and faster speed.

IT's A DESKTOP!!!! Dial Up is all that is available where I live. Believe me if high speed were here I'd use it and Dial up worked well on XP.

Even if I had HughestNet the W 8 "CLOUD" and chit Chat programs with MS Corp partners built into W-8 would take a good chunk of the allowed bandwidth. Many persons do not have access to high speed. MS ignores that to make this stinking WINDOWS 8 X-BOX Cross Bread Abomination.

I do have a laptop unfortunately with now unsupported XP I used when I needed to go somewhere for high speed WIFI.

33 posted on 04/16/2014 9:37:31 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

As of June, 2013 over 93% of US had broadband coverage of at least 3mbps.

One cannot expect MS (or any business) to dumbdown their technology to fit less than 7% of the nation.

As an aside, over 91% had availability of 10Mmbps or greater.

Sorry for your tech limitations but it’s no excuse to rant on MS (and other businesses) for evolving their technology.


34 posted on 04/16/2014 11:42:37 AM PDT by newfreep
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To: newfreep
What qualifies the 93% as being coverage? Cell phone tethering or cell tower usage? Likely so. Very limited Bandwidth right? Uncle Gates store your data for you if you use a Tablet right? That is where MS is trying to force consumers to go and W8 is part of that agenda open your eyes.

Yes technically 93% of the US may have coverage of at least 3mbps available to them. Not how much a month can they actually use? Factor into that this weeks W8 900 MB Update. Hugesnet users would have to watch what W8 consumes both in upload and download very closely.

The Cable Companies are at a halt as far as expansion and AT&T does not upgrades anywhere unless it is likely a massive cable or SLICK failure. Hey I can get high speed here. I can call Ma Bell and order a Data circuit. Hundreds of dollars a month just to use W8? BTW a data circuit is not the same configuration as DSL. My dad used to work on data circuits.

35 posted on 04/16/2014 12:09:14 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

Should read : Now how much bandwidth a month can they actually use?


36 posted on 04/16/2014 12:13:33 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Olog-hai

Nothing terribly unusual about that. Once you’ve got an SR (which is what this is) out you don’t make patches to pre-SR code, it’s an unnecessary doubling of testing effort. MS has been following this standard at least since they included automatic updates in Windows, every moderately sane company in software follows it. The only thing any writes for both base and SR is the next SR which are usually (but not always) cumulative.


37 posted on 04/16/2014 12:24:12 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: cva66snipe

Actually it equals 5 HOURS. Pretty easy overnight/ at work update.


38 posted on 04/16/2014 12:27:45 PM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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To: cva66snipe

At times I use a WiFi spot that offers 512Kb - plenty fast for my Win8.1 including downloading 200MB files with no problem.

...just sayin’


39 posted on 04/16/2014 12:29:48 PM PDT by newfreep
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To: discostu
Actually it equals 5 HOURS. Pretty easy overnight/ at work update.

50k is connect speed. What the actual download speed is going to average is at tops 15-20 MB per hour. 900/15 = 60 hours or 45 hours at 20 MB per hour. But an impossible feat when the ISP only stays connected 5 hours. If they were going to do a nearly 900 MB upgrade it needed to be on a disk as well. The point I made in a previous post many users even on high speed have limited monthly usage. Poor planning on the part of MS or likely just their typical corporate apathy concerning customers needs.

W8 has become an obsession with Microsoft. It was a mess from the beginning. It should have been pulled until they resolved issues they obviously did not test for with actual typical users.

40 posted on 04/16/2014 12:41:32 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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