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US oligarchy study: Eye-opening study reveals disturbing facts about the US
Jacksonville Top News Examiner ^ | April 15, 2014 | Christian Savoy

Posted on 04/16/2014 5:54:13 AM PDT by knittnmom

A first of its kind US oligarchy study yielded a rather troubling discovery and the results of the study are definitely cause for concern for most Americans. The US oligarchy study was conducted by researchers from Princeton and Northwestern Universities and the study showed that the United States is not a republic in substance, but rather an oligarchy where the rich rule and the majority of Americans have virtually no impact on policy decisions, today's report from FDL explained.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science
KEYWORDS: agitprop; christiansavoy; government; majority; marxistsonfr; occutardation; oligarchy; republic; rich

1 posted on 04/16/2014 5:54:13 AM PDT by knittnmom
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To: knittnmom

Sad but true.


2 posted on 04/16/2014 5:59:08 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: knittnmom
"and the majority of Americans have virtually no impact on policy

No kidding kilroy.

And a unversity had to have a study to figure that out.?

3 posted on 04/16/2014 6:00:51 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: knittnmom

Well, that’s one of the reasons I’m AFRAIDFORTHEREPUBLIC!


4 posted on 04/16/2014 6:01:18 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: knittnmom
The US oligarchy study was conducted by researchers from Princeton and Northwestern Universities

A priori conclusions? Confirmation bias? Anyone?

Princeton produced Michelle Obama and her equally vapid crony from CGI.

Northwestern 'student-athletes' are currently attending amidst the ruins of the Rust Belt and still pushing for union membership.

Forgive me if I dismiss their so-called research.

5 posted on 04/16/2014 6:03:22 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: knittnmom

DUH !


6 posted on 04/16/2014 6:05:25 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: knittnmom
A first of its kind US oligarchy study yielded a rather troubling discovery and the results of the study are definitely cause for concern for most Americans.

So how much did it cost the American taxpayer to conduct this study whose findings everyone already knew?

7 posted on 04/16/2014 6:05:54 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: afsnco

I disagree. We are a ‘Cashocracy’ thanks to our wierd campaign funding loopholes where People from out of state can donate and influence elections in states they don’t reside in. This is how many liberal politicians remain in influential in the red states.


8 posted on 04/16/2014 6:09:06 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Islamunism = Facism + Islam : Islamunist = someone that adheres to Islamunism.)
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To: knittnmom

The Obama wrecking crew and coming martial law are nothing but a plot to lower the world’s population of idle workers.


9 posted on 04/16/2014 6:11:08 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: knittnmom

This is what happens when you increase socialism. By wiping out the middle class what remains are the rulers and the ruled.


10 posted on 04/16/2014 6:12:24 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: knittnmom
Ping for later reading of the actual study... BUT in the first few pages, the authors make this statement two times...

"The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence.

This is a stunning conclusion that abortion lobby, environmentalist and Unions "little or no influence". I would like to read the rest of the study.

However, I find it interesting that progressives always make the claim the mass based groups do not have influence except when the group leans right such as the NRA, Tea Party and pro-life groups.

11 posted on 04/16/2014 6:23:16 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: knittnmom

The fact that we appear to be setting up to resume the Bush-Clinton-Bush cycle seems to confirm it.


12 posted on 04/16/2014 6:23:52 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: knittnmom

If by 0ligarchy they mean the Republicrats, I quite agree.


13 posted on 04/16/2014 6:25:41 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: knittnmom

Disagree, our problems are caused by an out of control corrupt, greedy and incompetent U. S. government. And Congress is on the top of the list.


14 posted on 04/16/2014 6:25:44 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Texas Eagle

This is a push for more “Democracy.” Watch what happens.


15 posted on 04/16/2014 6:28:01 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Character matters for those who understand the concept)
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To: knittnmom
Yep. But the Left will interpret this study as "The Koch Brothers and the like have too much influence"
while the Right will say "Soros, Rich Democrats and Crony Capitalists have too much influence".

16 posted on 04/16/2014 6:30:04 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: afsnco

“A republic, if you can keep it.” Guess what? We haven’t. Of course it’s an oligarchy, with the trappings of democracy (Free Stuff Army) to keep the elite in power.


17 posted on 04/16/2014 6:44:26 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: knittnmom

Bad place to post this.

Defenders of lopsided wealth distribution will be in soon accusing you of being a closet Commie.

So shut up and be a good little Dalit and worship the gang bangers at the top of the crooked game.


18 posted on 04/16/2014 6:53:13 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: knittnmom

Just gotta love those 1%ers and their Occutard children!


19 posted on 04/16/2014 6:55:25 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: knittnmom

The US hasn’t been a republic since the end of the Civil War.


20 posted on 04/16/2014 6:55:59 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: fruser1

You have to remember that the reason the 1%ers love collectivism is because it keeps the other 99% from competing with them.


21 posted on 04/16/2014 6:56:58 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: knittnmom
Nonsense.

This country is run by the Universities.

The most dangerous of oligarchy.

22 posted on 04/16/2014 6:59:06 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: knittnmom

I think this comes from their failure to understand the structure of a republican-democracy.

From the beginning, the founding fathers realized that the public needs *a* voice in government, and it should be heard frequently; but that the public should not directly control the government, or the end result might be chaotic. A belief that was confirmed just a short time later during the French revolution.

So for this reason, the people only had one direct route to the federal government, the house of representatives. And the people could completely change it if they wanted to, every two years.

The second body of the government, the senate, was not supposed to be popularly elected, but was to reflect the interests of the individual states. This didn’t just protect the government from the people, but also protected the people from direct actions against them as people by the federal government. The states acted as a “buffer” against an intrusive federal government.

The third body of the government is the president, who was *not* supposed to be popularly elected, but appointed by the electoral college. Again, this was designed to short circuit efforts to elect a purely populist president who was either a puppet or otherwise short on ability.

The electoral college again acting as a buffer between the people and the office.

The fourth body of the government, the judiciary, was not supposed to be popular at all, but appointed by the president and confirmed by the senate (as such, by the approval of the individual states.)

What could not be considered by the founding fathers was how the public would evolve the means to interpose itself into these systems. Not as individuals, but as groups.

Only at this point does the fear of an oligopoly begin.

A major problem began during the Lincoln administration, when indirectly the Supreme Court embraced the idea of corporate civil rights, which now dominate business law.

Civil rights are “endowed by the creator”, but corporate civil rights are entirely bestowed by the government, so it is an exceptionally bad idea to confuse the two. However, corporations do need something akin to rights to protect themselves from government.

Even in the 19th Century, power politics led by business cartels were becoming dangerous, in that giant banking and later industrial corporations. The influence of such people on government finally made it possible for them to manipulate government, by defeating its constitutional balances.

In any event, it is past time for an Article V convention to correct some of the problems that have evolved over time.


23 posted on 04/16/2014 7:13:10 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: saywhatagain

Yes, of course and it took just as long as there was grant money to do the job.

They have now also “discovered” that marijuana causes brain damage. Really? Who knew?


24 posted on 04/16/2014 7:26:51 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: mulligan
“Disagree, our problems are caused by an out of control corrupt, greedy and incompetent U. S. government. And Congress is on the top of the list.”

Government is bought and paid for by the oligarchs.

We are in a slow transition to a technological ghetto ruled by a few elite. Part of the transition is to destabilize the system until all idle workers die. That's why they are being herded into cities- kill zones.

25 posted on 04/16/2014 7:28:39 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: knittnmom
Americans have allowed this to happen. They can still right the ship if they turn off the TV, read the Constitution (and the Ten Commandments, while they're at it), and decide to care. We are fallen beings, and the longer you leave the same fallen beings in power the more they want to keep and exercise that power.

It bewilders me how so many nitwits in this country can rail against greedy, fat-cat corporate big-wigs and their shady shenanigans, yet they continue to put the same damn crooks in office - people who have a much greater effect on the country - year after year (see "Reid, Harry").

26 posted on 04/16/2014 7:39:58 AM PDT by opus86
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To: knittnmom
the study showed that the United States is not a republic in substance, but rather an oligarchy where the rich rule and the majority of Americans have virtually no impact on policy decisions, today's report from FDL explained.

This is about Marxists attacking free enterprise from another direction.

Clearly people who are wealthy have more influence than people who are penniless. In most cases it's because the wealthier have been more effective in running their lives in a productive manner. As a general rule, effective people are preferable to ineffective people as leaders. Of course there are exceptions.

But the real concern is that our political rulers are insulating themselves from the citizenry by using government largess to buy large numbers of votes.
They are bankrupting the country, addicting needy voters, and crippling initiative.

27 posted on 04/16/2014 7:53:43 AM PDT by oldbrowser
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To: opus86

If you have read the annual Forbes 400 over the past 25 years you will notice that there is a high level of turnover and once someone has left the 400 they rarely return. Only about 40% are “inherited” rich and the balance are “self made”.
This indicates the opportunities created by a dynamic economy.
However, as government intervention and regulation increases the economy becomes less dynamic which will result in fewer new arrivals at the 400.


28 posted on 04/16/2014 8:00:04 AM PDT by ozdragon
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To: knittnmom

Princeton? Research? The home of Paul Krugman? LOL

These so-called ‘researchers’ are so blind they fail to recognize that universities are an integral part of the power structure. They’re the last place to find unbiased studies.


29 posted on 04/16/2014 8:01:58 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: varyouga

And who do you think made that possible? Santa Claus. That means you could be bought. Doesn’t say much a about decent character. Sad.


30 posted on 04/16/2014 9:29:14 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: mulligan
“And who do you think made that possible? Santa Claus.”

The elite bought the politicians and get what they want no-matter how the people vote. Anyone who can't be bribed and challenges the status quo gets threatened, involved in a scandal or dies.

A few nonsense divisive issues are brought out every year to make people fight each other and convince 50% that they “won”. All the while their and their children's freedoms are sold out the back by both parties.

“That means you could be bought. Doesn’t say much a about decent character. Sad.”

Very few people on this earth can't be bought, threatened or blackmailed. Maybe even no one. Power = control.

The only way things will change is if the entire existing system goes down.

31 posted on 04/16/2014 11:52:50 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: mulligan

I disagree. Those are just symptoms, the root cause is educational in nature: we have a citizenry that is woefully underinformed and seriously misinformed, in a whole series of areas. Preeminent, IMHO, are Civics and Economics.

The truth is that the franchise still exists, but it isn’t being exercised by an informed voting public. If people really understood the mid and long term consequences of what is going on, and was more immune to being distracted by bread and circuses, there not only wouldn’t be an oligarchy, there couldn’t be one.


32 posted on 04/16/2014 12:02:51 PM PDT by tanknetter
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