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Mom, 44, shot dead ... by husband who was hallucinating after eating a marijuana cookie'...
The Daily Mail ^ | 4-15-14 | Helen Poq

Posted on 04/16/2014 8:55:19 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

A Denver, Colorado mother has been shot dead in front of her children by her 'hallucinating' while she was on a 13 minute call to 911, police said.

Kristine Kirk, 44, called for help around 9:30p.m. Monday, telling dispatchers that her husband Richard Kirk, 47, was 'talking about the end of the world' and 'scarring' their three children. A source told FOX31 investigators are looking at whether he had eaten a marijuana cookie.

Mrs Kirk said in the 911 call that there was a gun in the house but it was in a safe, according to a probable cause statement.

'She then said that her husband retrieved the gun from the safe and she began to scream,' the statement reads. A gunshot could then be heard followed by silence.

Officers arrived on the scene shortly after the shooting.

'They were almost there,' Sonny Jackson, a Denver Police Department spokesman, told The Denver Post.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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Full title: Mom, 44, shot dead 'in front of kids by husband who was hallucinating after eating a marijuana cookie'... even though she had called 911 to plead for help for 13 MINUTES

911 didn't help much here, but would there have been a problem without the easy access to pot?

Video at source.

1 posted on 04/16/2014 8:55:19 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
A Denver, Colorado mother has been shot dead in front of her children by her 'hallucinating' while she was on a 13 minute call to 911, police said.

I wanna buy a noun...

2 posted on 04/16/2014 8:56:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Who baked the cookie?


3 posted on 04/16/2014 8:57:19 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

~~~and ‘scarring’ their three children.~~~

Apparently they spell things differently in several ways.


4 posted on 04/16/2014 8:57:46 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’m sorry but marijuana does not cause hallucinations. If he was actually hallucinating it was due to some other substance or mental defect.


5 posted on 04/16/2014 8:57:55 AM PDT by slumber1 (Moderation is overrated)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Watch the left blame the gun and not the dope taking dope.


6 posted on 04/16/2014 8:58:26 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: afraidfortherepublic

How many milli-seconds after this story broke did liberals blame the gun?


7 posted on 04/16/2014 8:58:38 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
hallucinating after eating a marijuana cookie'...

Must have been one very large cookie.

8 posted on 04/16/2014 8:59:40 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I call BS. Pot does not cause halucinations. Maybe he had something with the dope.


9 posted on 04/16/2014 9:00:47 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: slumber1

Maybe the pot was laced with PCP or LSD?

CC


10 posted on 04/16/2014 9:01:10 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: slumber1
I’m sorry but marijuana does not cause hallucinations. If he was actually hallucinating it was due to some other substance or mental defect.

Article makes it sound more like a paranoia episode.

11 posted on 04/16/2014 9:02:15 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

“Maybe the pot was laced with PCP or LSD?”

That would only happen with illegal pot so unlikely in CO


12 posted on 04/16/2014 9:02:22 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: slumber1

There is a lot more going on here than marijuana. But, it is going to be a much used excuse for all sorts of crimes in the future.


13 posted on 04/16/2014 9:02:38 AM PDT by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Or with a pesticide which are usually neurotoxic to one degree or another.


14 posted on 04/16/2014 9:04:44 AM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: slumber1

We need to get back to blaming REAL culprits like Twinkies and video games.


15 posted on 04/16/2014 9:05:29 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: cuban leaf

My question...

If he was out of his mind, how was he able to open the safe?


16 posted on 04/16/2014 9:06:59 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: slumber1

Nope.

I’m highly sensitive to any prescribed medication and have never taken recreational hallucinating drugs.

Three years ago I ate a couple brownies that my 21 yo son and friends had made - not knowing they were made with marijuana butter.

I hallucinated horribly and was scared, really scared. I vomitted (all the contents of my stomach) which was the only thing that kept them from taking me to the ER.

I have a strong POV on the marijuana issue based on observing my son over the years.


17 posted on 04/16/2014 9:07:50 AM PDT by freeagle
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To: slumber1

” If he was actually hallucinating it was due to some other substance or mental defect.”

In the ‘70’s I had a business partner who later developed schizophrenia, which was a family problem. He had one toke on a joint that probably six other people shared with no ill effect. He was in bed with hallucinations for three days. I realize now that there were plenty of other predictive indicators if I had recognized them. That was probably the first visible symptom that he had a larger mental issue.


18 posted on 04/16/2014 9:08:03 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Total BS


19 posted on 04/16/2014 9:08:21 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: varyouga

Ah, sarcasm. I remember it well.

CC


20 posted on 04/16/2014 9:10:06 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

That can’t be right . weed is harmless! It’s the same as tobacco! It doesn’t affect the mind-it has no effect at ALL on you! That’s why people smoke it. And marijuana smoke is GOOD for your lungs!/sarc.
There’s a reason it’s called DOPE!


21 posted on 04/16/2014 9:10:16 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: freeagle

I should add that I do not need or take psychotrophics for any reason.

My point is that some people simply cannot ingest marijuana and to say that’s not the case is irresponsible.

Not all people have problems with it, but they should be informed that it’s not necessarily a benign high.


22 posted on 04/16/2014 9:11:27 AM PDT by freeagle
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To: afraidfortherepublic

but liberdopians deny this is possible

if someone umaccustomed to it ingests it - its pretty toxic


23 posted on 04/16/2014 9:12:12 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: TurboZamboni

Yes! And the Tea Party or something like that.


24 posted on 04/16/2014 9:12:25 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: slumber1
Ingested THC has profoundly different effects compared to a smoker dosing themselves with the usual amount.

It's not merely that the dosage is far larger and much longer lasting, but the 'high' can turn psychotic.

Even experienced marijuana smokers are aware of this, and it's not some comical scare out of a 'Dragnet 1968' script.

25 posted on 04/16/2014 9:13:19 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: slumber1

yes it does cause hallucinations for newer users


26 posted on 04/16/2014 9:13:39 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Baynative
There is a lot more going on here than marijuana. But, it is going to be a much used excuse for all sorts of crimes in the future.

Maybe he just wanted to "OFF" her, and wants an excuse, as you say. Well, I mean, they had the affluenza defense, why not the cookie defense?

27 posted on 04/16/2014 9:15:06 AM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“investigators are looking at whether he had eaten a marijuana cookie.”

<>

“who was hallucinating after eating a marijuana cookie”

Headline and story do not match.

Sounds fishy. MJ does not cause hallucinations.


28 posted on 04/16/2014 9:15:09 AM PDT by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: cuban leaf

first time my sis tried pot she thought the baked chicken was alive and wanted to fly - she threw dinner across the kitchen


29 posted on 04/16/2014 9:15:45 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: freeagle

Keep in mind that your personal experience will mean nothing to a pothead. They won’t believe you.

You can’t argue with a stoner.


30 posted on 04/16/2014 9:16:23 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: freeagle

liberdopians will deny all of it


31 posted on 04/16/2014 9:16:57 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: slumber1
I’m sorry but marijuana does not cause hallucinations. If he was actually hallucinating it was due to some other substance or mental defect.

Good point.

32 posted on 04/16/2014 9:18:16 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There’s got to be more than this. He probably had some mental issues before the brownie.
As other have said, pot doesn’t cause hallucinations. I ate a pot laced brownie unbeknownst to me and while I wanted to kill the person who did it, the effects I felt made me want to sleep, I was so tired there was no way I could have killed someone.
Obviously, the effect is not the same for everyone but I doubt this is the whole story.


33 posted on 04/16/2014 9:20:50 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Hallucinating, but able to open a gun safe?


34 posted on 04/16/2014 9:22:28 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“would there have been a problem without the easy access to pot?”

As we know, leftists will blame easy access to a gun.


35 posted on 04/16/2014 9:22:29 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: afraidfortherepublic

36 posted on 04/16/2014 9:22:36 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: slumber1

Marijuana is, indeed, a hallucinogen. The effects of ingested marijuana are far different than those from smoking.


37 posted on 04/16/2014 9:23:19 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Baynative

Back in the day, the legal excuse of choice used to be “temporary insanity,” which always seems to me to be accurate, as anyone committing murder is by definition temporarily insane.

Now we have the ultimate airtight excuse for committing murder: “ I am the victim here as THE COOKIE MADE ME DO IT.”


38 posted on 04/16/2014 9:23:55 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Lx

giving someone pot with their knowledge should be a felony


39 posted on 04/16/2014 9:25:29 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Lx

giving someone pot withOUT their knowledge should be a felony


40 posted on 04/16/2014 9:28:02 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Celtic Conservative

It’s true.

Why would a legitimate business do something illegal that gains no profit for them?


41 posted on 04/16/2014 9:28:07 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: freeagle

I had an experience similar to yours after unwittingly eating several pot brownies. (They were delicious so I had another and another, you see.) I hallucinated all night, wouldn’t let a friend come in because I thought there was a monster wobbling behind her as she stood in my doorway, asking to come in from the snow. I was terrified and struggled with how to tell her she was in peril. Later I realized it was just her large, black orchestral bass case, the little metal feet above the neck looked like demonic metal eyes.

Good luck, Colorado.


42 posted on 04/16/2014 9:30:24 AM PDT by fullchroma (iCitizen)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Some questions I like to ask the Dopes about its status in Colorado...some on this thread may attempt to answer:

1. If marijuana is harmless, should there be an age restriction? If so, why?

2. Should a pregnant woman smoke marijuana? If not - why?

3. Should people on welfare be drug tested for marijuana?

4. Should driving under the influence of marijuana be allowed?

5. If not, what is the limit...and how is it tested?

6. If a driver/pilot/train conductor has marijuana in his system after an accident, should he be criminally charged?

7. Should a CDL truck driver (who has a 0.0 BAC limit for DUI) have a similar prohibition against weed? If so, why?

8. How many hard drug users do you know, who never tried marijuana?

9. Is marijuana addictive? If not, why did Ricky Williams quit football to go smoke?

The answers you get to these questions will be evasive, and full of conspiracy theories about the DEA and beer companies...and will generally have a paranoid tone.

You can’t argue with a stoner.


43 posted on 04/16/2014 9:31:49 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Death Penalty is the appropriate punishment. The man is a murderer.

Pot the cause? It may have contributed as EATING the stuff often leads to overdose (not the kind that kills the body).

I've seen people so high after eating the stuff they were literally non-functioning and unable to grasp even a sliver of reality.

They usually just crawl into a closet, alone, until it goes away.

It's VERY STRONG and mind-altering.

44 posted on 04/16/2014 9:32:10 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: GeronL

If someone ever gave me some food laced with dope without telling me, I swear to God, I would kill them.


45 posted on 04/16/2014 9:33:02 AM PDT by greene66
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To: slumber1

I’m in complete agreement. But that said, when seconds count, help is just minutes away...


46 posted on 04/16/2014 9:33:52 AM PDT by stormer
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To: The KG9 Kid

Adding to your point...

Recently Nightline did a story on ‘glass’. Glass is a highly concentrated form of marijuana, where close to pure THC is extracted down into a paste.

They interviewed a guy in Colorado who sold it. He stated that he wouldn’t sell it to somebody who wasn’t a regular user of marijuana, because that would be dangerous.

Wasn’t that an admission, from a tie dye wearing marijuana dealer, that the drug has powerful effects?


47 posted on 04/16/2014 9:36:31 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: GeronL

Sure, that’s because she tried pot immediately after dropping acid. ;-)


48 posted on 04/16/2014 9:36:45 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: The KG9 Kid
"Even experienced marijuana smokers are aware of this, and it's not some comical scare out of a 'Dragnet 1968' script"

You are correct. Ingestion will screw up even the most experienced and relegate them to babbling fools looking for a place to hide.

Only fools eat the stuff.

49 posted on 04/16/2014 9:37:01 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: greene66

bump


50 posted on 04/16/2014 9:39:56 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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