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Posted on 04/16/2014 8:55:19 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
A Denver, Colorado mother has been shot dead in front of her children by her 'hallucinating' while she was on a 13 minute call to 911, police said.
Kristine Kirk, 44, called for help around 9:30p.m. Monday, telling dispatchers that her husband Richard Kirk, 47, was 'talking about the end of the world' and 'scarring' their three children. A source told FOX31 investigators are looking at whether he had eaten a marijuana cookie.
Mrs Kirk said in the 911 call that there was a gun in the house but it was in a safe, according to a probable cause statement.
'She then said that her husband retrieved the gun from the safe and she began to scream,' the statement reads. A gunshot could then be heard followed by silence.
Officers arrived on the scene shortly after the shooting.
'They were almost there,' Sonny Jackson, a Denver Police Department spokesman, told The Denver Post.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
911 didn't help much here, but would there have been a problem without the easy access to pot?
Video at source.
I wanna buy a noun...
Who baked the cookie?
~~~and ‘scarring’ their three children.~~~
Apparently they spell things differently in several ways.
I’m sorry but marijuana does not cause hallucinations. If he was actually hallucinating it was due to some other substance or mental defect.
Watch the left blame the gun and not the dope taking dope.
How many milli-seconds after this story broke did liberals blame the gun?
Must have been one very large cookie.
I call BS. Pot does not cause halucinations. Maybe he had something with the dope.
Maybe the pot was laced with PCP or LSD?
Article makes it sound more like a paranoia episode.
“Maybe the pot was laced with PCP or LSD?”
That would only happen with illegal pot so unlikely in CO
There is a lot more going on here than marijuana. But, it is going to be a much used excuse for all sorts of crimes in the future.
Or with a pesticide which are usually neurotoxic to one degree or another.
We need to get back to blaming REAL culprits like Twinkies and video games.
If he was out of his mind, how was he able to open the safe?
I’m highly sensitive to any prescribed medication and have never taken recreational hallucinating drugs.
Three years ago I ate a couple brownies that my 21 yo son and friends had made - not knowing they were made with marijuana butter.
I hallucinated horribly and was scared, really scared. I vomitted (all the contents of my stomach) which was the only thing that kept them from taking me to the ER.
I have a strong POV on the marijuana issue based on observing my son over the years.
” If he was actually hallucinating it was due to some other substance or mental defect.”
In the ‘70’s I had a business partner who later developed schizophrenia, which was a family problem. He had one toke on a joint that probably six other people shared with no ill effect. He was in bed with hallucinations for three days. I realize now that there were plenty of other predictive indicators if I had recognized them. That was probably the first visible symptom that he had a larger mental issue.
Ah, sarcasm. I remember it well.
That can’t be right . weed is harmless! It’s the same as tobacco! It doesn’t affect the mind-it has no effect at ALL on you! That’s why people smoke it. And marijuana smoke is GOOD for your lungs!/sarc.
There’s a reason it’s called DOPE!
I should add that I do not need or take psychotrophics for any reason.
My point is that some people simply cannot ingest marijuana and to say that’s not the case is irresponsible.
Not all people have problems with it, but they should be informed that it’s not necessarily a benign high.
but liberdopians deny this is possible
if someone umaccustomed to it ingests it - its pretty toxic
Yes! And the Tea Party or something like that.
It's not merely that the dosage is far larger and much longer lasting, but the 'high' can turn psychotic.
Even experienced marijuana smokers are aware of this, and it's not some comical scare out of a 'Dragnet 1968' script.
yes it does cause hallucinations for newer users
Maybe he just wanted to "OFF" her, and wants an excuse, as you say. Well, I mean, they had the affluenza defense, why not the cookie defense?
“investigators are looking at whether he had eaten a marijuana cookie.”
“who was hallucinating after eating a marijuana cookie”
Headline and story do not match.
Sounds fishy. MJ does not cause hallucinations.
first time my sis tried pot she thought the baked chicken was alive and wanted to fly - she threw dinner across the kitchen
Keep in mind that your personal experience will mean nothing to a pothead. They won’t believe you.
You can’t argue with a stoner.
liberdopians will deny all of it
There’s got to be more than this. He probably had some mental issues before the brownie.
As other have said, pot doesn’t cause hallucinations. I ate a pot laced brownie unbeknownst to me and while I wanted to kill the person who did it, the effects I felt made me want to sleep, I was so tired there was no way I could have killed someone.
Obviously, the effect is not the same for everyone but I doubt this is the whole story.
Hallucinating, but able to open a gun safe?
“would there have been a problem without the easy access to pot?”
As we know, leftists will blame easy access to a gun.
Marijuana is, indeed, a hallucinogen. The effects of ingested marijuana are far different than those from smoking.
Back in the day, the legal excuse of choice used to be “temporary insanity,” which always seems to me to be accurate, as anyone committing murder is by definition temporarily insane.
Now we have the ultimate airtight excuse for committing murder: “ I am the victim here as THE COOKIE MADE ME DO IT.”
giving someone pot with their knowledge should be a felony
giving someone pot withOUT their knowledge should be a felony
Why would a legitimate business do something illegal that gains no profit for them?
I had an experience similar to yours after unwittingly eating several pot brownies. (They were delicious so I had another and another, you see.) I hallucinated all night, wouldn’t let a friend come in because I thought there was a monster wobbling behind her as she stood in my doorway, asking to come in from the snow. I was terrified and struggled with how to tell her she was in peril. Later I realized it was just her large, black orchestral bass case, the little metal feet above the neck looked like demonic metal eyes.
Good luck, Colorado.
Some questions I like to ask the Dopes about its status in Colorado...some on this thread may attempt to answer:
1. If marijuana is harmless, should there be an age restriction? If so, why?
2. Should a pregnant woman smoke marijuana? If not - why?
3. Should people on welfare be drug tested for marijuana?
4. Should driving under the influence of marijuana be allowed?
5. If not, what is the limit...and how is it tested?
6. If a driver/pilot/train conductor has marijuana in his system after an accident, should he be criminally charged?
7. Should a CDL truck driver (who has a 0.0 BAC limit for DUI) have a similar prohibition against weed? If so, why?
8. How many hard drug users do you know, who never tried marijuana?
9. Is marijuana addictive? If not, why did Ricky Williams quit football to go smoke?
The answers you get to these questions will be evasive, and full of conspiracy theories about the DEA and beer companies...and will generally have a paranoid tone.
You can’t argue with a stoner.
Pot the cause? It may have contributed as EATING the stuff often leads to overdose (not the kind that kills the body).
I've seen people so high after eating the stuff they were literally non-functioning and unable to grasp even a sliver of reality.
They usually just crawl into a closet, alone, until it goes away.
It's VERY STRONG and mind-altering.
If someone ever gave me some food laced with dope without telling me, I swear to God, I would kill them.
I’m in complete agreement. But that said, when seconds count, help is just minutes away...
Adding to your point...
Recently Nightline did a story on ‘glass’. Glass is a highly concentrated form of marijuana, where close to pure THC is extracted down into a paste.
They interviewed a guy in Colorado who sold it. He stated that he wouldn’t sell it to somebody who wasn’t a regular user of marijuana, because that would be dangerous.
Wasn’t that an admission, from a tie dye wearing marijuana dealer, that the drug has powerful effects?
Sure, that’s because she tried pot immediately after dropping acid. ;-)
You are correct. Ingestion will screw up even the most experienced and relegate them to babbling fools looking for a place to hide.
Only fools eat the stuff.