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I want to preempt any no-knock raid by my LEO in my county
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Posted on 04/16/2014 7:39:20 PM PDT by George from New England

I am running computers at my Florida farm that use ten-fold the electricity I used a year ago, this time of year.

I read freeper threads about the LEO, no-knock, drug suspected raids, that occur all across the states when electricity usage is flagged as abnormally high.

How would you go about contacting the county sheriff and what to say as well as what not to say with regard to high electric usage.

I don't want to wake in the middle of the night to LEO activity on my property that I suspect is a burglary or other criminal activity. It's almost a sure thing that I'll be killed defending my family.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: drug; leo; noknock; raid
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1 posted on 04/16/2014 7:39:20 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: George from New England

I would think going to the utility company would be the way to go. I suspect they’re the ones who do the flagging.


2 posted on 04/16/2014 7:41:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: George from New England
'Florida farm that use ten-fold the electricity'

Solar investment time?

3 posted on 04/16/2014 7:41:37 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: George from New England
"How would you go about contacting the county sheriff and what to say as well as what not to say with regard to high electric usage."

LOL! Telling the county sheriff there's no need to raid your property is probably a surefire way of getting your property raided.

4 posted on 04/16/2014 7:43:21 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: George from New England

pay your electric bill with cash /s


5 posted on 04/16/2014 7:43:39 PM PDT by umgud
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To: George from New England

If you use air-conditioning, it will swamp any usage change by your computers, so maybe there’s nothing to worry about.

My electricity supplier gives a summary bar-graph of the last year’s usage. If your’s does, check the overall usage history before you worry un-necessarily.


6 posted on 04/16/2014 7:44:08 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: George from New England
How many kilowatt hours per month are you talking about?
7 posted on 04/16/2014 7:44:54 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I’m over 200 kw/day. Last year this month was 40.


8 posted on 04/16/2014 7:45:17 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: George from New England

Power consumption by your computers is nowhere near that of grow lights,if that’s your concern


9 posted on 04/16/2014 7:45:35 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: George from New England

Build a donut shop


10 posted on 04/16/2014 7:45:52 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: KarlInOhio

It’s 7 kw every hour, continuously.
Sort of a data center, but really bitcoin mining.
Going up tomorrow.


11 posted on 04/16/2014 7:46:35 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Bingo. You do not need an excuse to use electricity.


12 posted on 04/16/2014 7:49:24 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: George from New England

Silly.

Unless all of your data flow is not online you have already been flagged.


13 posted on 04/16/2014 7:50:21 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: George from New England

14 posted on 04/16/2014 7:52:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: George from New England
I’m over 200 kw/day. Last year this month was 40.

First off, that's a lot of electricity per day. Are you sure you don't mean per month?

A desktop computer uses roughly 100 watts (it can be double that during intense gaming). Although the supply is rated for a lot more, that's to support bursts, and oddball configurations which load the different output voltages of the supply unpredictably.

So, at 100 watts usage, 24 hours a day, you'd use 2.4 Kwh for that appliance (or any other drawing the same amount of power). That's about 70 kwh/per month.

Maybe you should buy one of those power meters -- like the "Kill-a-watt" for $20 and see what your different appliances are using.

15 posted on 04/16/2014 7:52:29 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: cripplecreek; George from New England
I would think going to the utility company would be the way to go. I suspect they’re the ones who do the flagging.

^^^This. Talk to these people. Stash the contraband when they come over.

16 posted on 04/16/2014 7:53:04 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Joe 6-pack

Correct. Never talk to the cops. Nothing good ever comes of it.


17 posted on 04/16/2014 7:53:52 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: George from New England
Sort of a data center, but really bitcoin mining.

I would be more worried that my motion detectors were working my attorney is on speedial

18 posted on 04/16/2014 7:54:04 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

It’s not about the data usage or bitcoin activity that worries me. It’s the willingness of electric companies to submit, and the ignorance of LEO about energy usage increases that scares me, to want to avoid a conflict.


19 posted on 04/16/2014 7:54:40 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: George from New England

start generating your own electricity and they wouldn’t have any accounting of your usage

as a bonus, if you generate enough, you will make $$ by selling it back to the grid


20 posted on 04/16/2014 7:54:43 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: George from New England
It’s 7 kw every hour, continuously. Sort of a data center, but really bitcoin mining.

Man, you must have several score computers running simultaneously. How's it going? And what's your electricity bill?

21 posted on 04/16/2014 7:55:47 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: George from New England
Go to your Sheriff and invite him to inspect the premises. At least that's what I would do, in addition to continued and transparent opposition to violations of the Constitution.

But that's based on the conditions here, with an elected and approachable Sheriff. His corruption, if any, is not presently biased against me or mine.

Conditions that may not apply on the ground where you are.

22 posted on 04/16/2014 7:55:48 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: George from New England

Build a moat around your house...with alligators...lot’sa alligators.


23 posted on 04/16/2014 7:55:58 PM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova

And hippos.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3145288/posts


24 posted on 04/16/2014 7:58:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: George from New England

Claymore.


25 posted on 04/16/2014 7:58:29 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: George from New England
If I have the units right (7000 watts continuous, or 7 kWh per hour), then it's 5040 kWh per month, which is about 6 times my home usage and probably around $500 per month. I would talk to the power company and see what type of deal they could give you. It's enough power usage jump to get attention for a home. I don't know about a farm.

If you don't mind me asking, is bit coin mining that profitable?

26 posted on 04/16/2014 7:59:07 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: George from New England

Get rid of the pot plants in the basement, computer controlled or not....


27 posted on 04/16/2014 7:59:33 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now you even make me curious to get a peek behind the door....


28 posted on 04/16/2014 8:01:36 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: sten

Cogeneration too.


29 posted on 04/16/2014 8:02:55 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Maybe I’ll post some photos in a few says, if I live that long.


30 posted on 04/16/2014 8:03:18 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: George from New England

Personally? I would rig my property up with battery powered motion detectors, Klaxons and Flood lights and Blare “Intruder Alert” and “Danger Will Robinson” in computerized voices, and hide the off switch.

Get a separate meter and service it as a business. The electricity will be half the cost, and no problems. Though they may require the meter on a separate building than your home.

A home indoor hydroponics Hobbyist’s bill would rise no more than $60 per month at .13 per kw/h. While a commercial operation would run in the $1000’s and upwards at a commercial rate of around .08 per kw/h. Figures may vary.

If you go solar, make sure you go off grid cause they can still meter you on grid systems.


31 posted on 04/16/2014 8:04:42 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Islamunism = Facism + Islam : Islamunist = someone that adheres to Islamunism.)
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To: George from New England

A mistake in bookkeeping at the electric company can make out that you’re using more electricity. Happened to my dad. For two months his electric usage doubled. Fault of the power company’s bookkeeping. Some how they entered his usage twice for those months. Fortunately nothing happened. But in larger towns or cities?????


32 posted on 04/16/2014 8:05:35 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: George from New England

What the hell you farmin?


33 posted on 04/16/2014 8:05:54 PM PDT by crz
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To: George from New England

Give a thought to any four-legged friends there.


34 posted on 04/16/2014 8:05:57 PM PDT by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: umgud

All in twenties.


35 posted on 04/16/2014 8:06:18 PM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: Paladin2

For decades my goal with electronic equipment was to care for it, clean & maintain it, make it last a decade or more. But these miners obsolete themselves very fast, so I don’t even bother to clean or filter the air I push through them, they’ll cost more for the electric to run next year than they bring in in income.


36 posted on 04/16/2014 8:06:23 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: George from New England

Aren’t the bitcoins about to run out from mining?


37 posted on 04/16/2014 8:07:36 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: George from New England
"if I live that long."

LOL, you may be paranoid...

38 posted on 04/16/2014 8:08:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: George from New England

Install a camera system with infrared capability. Live at an altenate location. Put in a few blow up dolls and funny noises and sounds a la Ferris Bueller and watch the SWAT raid on TV. Be sure to upload.
If you get them, you’ll get a million hits guaranteed.


39 posted on 04/16/2014 8:14:49 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: George from New England

Well lets get real. You are posting keywords on a domestic terrorist website proclaiming you aren’t a domestic terrorist.

It “sounds” like you are just going to be a trader with the need to watch minute by minute trading in a multitude of markets.

What does a business license cost in your state?

Not that it really matters.

All it takes for the popo’s to check you out is to run a copter over your location with some infrared. Grow rooms or meth labs are going to be hotspots. If all of your chairs are at the same table it could show a hotspot.

But I guess if you are asking how to be legitimate and protect yourself when the government is illegitimate...

Keep your powder dry. STK


40 posted on 04/16/2014 8:25:51 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: George from New England

Well if they do take you down make sure that when the news media sticks a camera in your face you say... “My electric use only went up because I had to take in indigent relatives who lost their jobs due to Obama!”


41 posted on 04/16/2014 8:39:48 PM PDT by anonsquared
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To: George from New England

Says a lot. Use too much electricity and worry about a raid. We’ve become like an abused spouse walking on eggshells.


42 posted on 04/16/2014 8:47:16 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: George from New England

Get some sleep—for days! Sleep a little at every opportunity. After more sleep, there will be less fear. They’re not going to do anything to you for churning out bitcoins on a computer farm. If police come, don’t do anything. Just put your hands up and say, “My give up.” They won’t do anything. Then sue ‘em.

That moat and crocodile idea mentioned earlier is pretty cool, though. I like that! ;-)


43 posted on 04/16/2014 8:59:45 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: George from New England

Take your chances and don’t say a word.

If ya do they’ll think your lying and swat teams will kick your doors in and throw flash bang grenades through the windows.


44 posted on 04/16/2014 9:03:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: grumpygresh; George from New England

Camera system and blowup dolls! That’s even better. There’s free camera software for software motion detection and automatic uploads to remote servers. When they first meet the blowup dolls, that’s what needs to be uploaded automatically. Post to a YouTube account immediately.


45 posted on 04/16/2014 9:07:36 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: George from New England

Maybe some stuffed dogs in the entrance room would help...and life sized dolls.


46 posted on 04/16/2014 9:09:32 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: George from New England

Steel security doors both extenal “screen” and main door. I have toyed with the idea of a chain curtain in my mudroom that would trap any invaders if they managed to get through but thats a little more than I want to do. If they want you they are gonna get you. I think just keep quiet. If you report yourself you are on their radar. If you invite them in to the house you just gave up your forth amendment rights.


47 posted on 04/16/2014 9:11:19 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Organic Panic

All this talk about blow up dolls.

Why would the Secret Service be interested in high electrical bills?


48 posted on 04/16/2014 9:17:36 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I got a sneaking suspicion they may not be being entirely honest.


49 posted on 04/16/2014 9:18:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: George from New England
I am running computers at my Florida farm that use ten-fold the electricity I used a year ago, this time of year.

'"That sounds pretty suspicious, Comrade. We hope that you made a large donation to the Democratic Party year..."

Regards,

50 posted on 04/16/2014 9:23:02 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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