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Posted on 04/18/2014 8:16:21 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
I'm liking what Fiat is doing with Chrysler more and more, even their choice of ad agency and marketing campaigns. This is a startling, hilarious and cool ad commemorating the 100th Anniversary of Dodge and announcing the 2015 Challenger.
They’re Fiats. The acronym definition “Fix It Again, Tony” is not a mere chuckle point.
Now if they would just make a two door Charger....
nice commercial...but remind me....is Dodge one of those govt motors companies that I have to boycott?
They got a “bailout” in 2009, yes, but never got taken over by the feds. They’ve been foreign-owned for quite a while, though (Daimler before Fiat).
They’ve been far better stewards of Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep heritage than Daimler ever was, and in my opinion better than the Lee Iacocca era. They’re coming out with some beautiful vehicles with great heritage cues, they actually understand what they have. I’ve been surprised, as I was very dubious myself.
Probably afraid it would cannibalize Challenger sales.
I don’t think so, they were recipients of government bailout money but it’s been repaid to my knowledge.
I’ve not been much of a fan myself, but am starting to rethink that. Never owned a Chrysler product, the historical transmission/transaxle issue alone scared me off. Tended to be rust-prone, too. I’ll be watching the reliability ratings and resale values, though. They’re turning it around nicely from every indication.
Typical Chrysler (Fiat) flashiness. The Camaro (Frankensteinmobile) is even more unattractive. The new Mustangs are much more attractive to me.
I happened to rent a 2013 Camaro SS last year. The drivetrain was spectacular. The rest of the car was cheezey, just like my 2001 Z28. When using the remote unlock the windows drop down a little. In the SS, when the passenger window drops down, the weather strip goes with it. I guess that was a feature.
Would guess that the new Fiats are far better than the last generation.
Chrysler has always had good engineering.
And seems to cycle between capable and disastrous management.
AutoWeek review, more photos interior and exterior:
I haven’t seen any missteps from Fiat and have been pleasantly surprised. The Dart sounded crazy when announced, being based upon Alfa mechanicals and architecture, but it was very well realized. I’m still in wait and see mode, but I’d actually consider several of their vehicles now, and never would have prior.
Regardless, I bought a Dodge Viper at Barrett jackson many years ago because it was one of my promises once I immigrated to America..plus it was my fave car when i was playing Gran Turismo with my Playstation when I was kid LOL
I've got a bigger problem than the one with Chrysler.Since 1990 I've intentionally avoided buying cars made with UAW labor.The country of origin of my last 6 cars is,in chronological order,Japan,Japan,Japan,Germany,Germany,Germany.On top of *that* is the fact after test driving the first German car I bought I've been a diesel fanatic.
But it's always been my impression that Chrysler products have been poorly designed and poorly manufactured and Consumer Reports stats on reliability seem to confirm that.
I'll be in Manhattan next week and am planning to spend 3 or 4 hours at the Auto Show.I'll definitely make a quick stop at the GM and Ford exhibits...I might stop for a second at the Chrysler pavilion.
Most of the reviews of the Dart I’ve seen have been tepid to negative, but the larger cars and trucks are pretty stout.
Which makes sense because that is their historical strength.
In Motown, an engineering assignment on small cars is sort of like being relegated to the junior varsity.
I was riding down the interstate when I noticed a Challenger SRT speeding up and slowing down. He did this apparently to hear his own aftermarket exhaust, which honestly sounded badass and expensive. (rev up-back down pow pow powpowpow)
he rode up beside a Porche Cayenne with big cursive “TURBO” letters on the back cruising along minding his own business and I said to myself, “don’t do it buddy, you better leave that Cayenne alone.”
Sure enough, the Cayenne accepted the Challenger’s challenge.
That Cayenne raised up on all four corners and shot off like someone had shot it out of a slingshot. The Challenger barked his tires and took off but the Cayenne was 6 lengths ahead before the Challenger could even twist up. The Cayenne was shaking back and forth, obviously from the driver trying to control the tourqesteer under such heavy acceleration.
The Challenger was powerful, don’t get me wrong... but he won’t be messing with any Cayenne Turbos for a while.
The 2015 has an optional 485 hp Hemi 6.4 liter, so maybe that will change in the future, lol.
Too early to tell. I usually take flashiness with a grain of salt too.
This would be the Cayenne Turbo or Turbo S? The non-S Turbo is rated at 444 horsepower; the Turbo S has a brutal 514 horses, and four-wheel traction will certainly get a rear-traction car off the line if the driver of the rear-traction car doesn’t know what he’s doing. The Cayenne is a perennial victim of the ugly stick’s pummeling, though.
By “get a rear-traction car off the line” I meant “beat a rear-traction car etc.”.
A few years ago I owned a small (or at least smallish) German sedan that featured a twin turbo 6 cylinder diesel.This diesel boasted 425 ft lbs of torque from 1500 to 4500 rpm.If you just *brushed* the accelerator it literally pinned you back in your seat.The several people (family and friends) that I allowed to drive it had never driven a diesel before.Each one,after their first time behind the wheel,described their experience with the word "wow".
And with all that it easily got 40mpg on the highway
I haven’t driven a diesel in a long time. My first exposure was a diesel VW Rabbit in the early eighties. Acceleration was not a word to apply to that vehicle, it slowly gathered momentum. So little happened upon depressing the accelerator pedal that I was convinced the clutch was slipping.
A few years back Jeremy Clarkson did a review of the very drivetrain that was in my car,but in a larger sedan.He wanted to see if their claim of 145mph top speed was accurate.So he put his foot down and called out the speeds...."50mph"..."60mph"..etc.When he got it up to about 80 he said something like "it's not electric but it *is* *relentless*".And he did stress both words.And relentless is the perfect word to describe my car.I used to call it "the beast".
And FYI...I'm only familiar with older diesels by reputation but today's,many of which sport twin turbos,are anything but slow,smelly,loud or terrible.For example,BMW sells a 6 cylinder diesel in Europe (a mid sized 5 Series) that boasts something like 535 ft lbs of torque.I've read that that thing is amazing.
Over the years, I’ve owned the following Chrysler products:
1968 Simca - Chrysler product
1978 Plymouth Horizon
1980 Plymouth Champ
1983 Chrysler LeBaron
1990 Plymouth Acclaim
1998 Dodge Intrepid
2004 Dodge Dakota
All went 200,000+ with no major problems. The Acclaim went over 300,000.
Still have the Dakota. 280,000 and still going strong.
Just watched that video , 535d v 545 ... I would love a 335d with the “M” suspension and brakes..
Even Ford is introducing a similar headlight style to the new Mustang...fail as well.