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A New, More Sinister IRS Scandal
PJ Media ^ | April 17, 2014 | J. Christian Adams

Posted on 04/18/2014 1:50:16 PM PDT by Pelham

Yesterday was a significant day in the IRS abuse scandal. The scandal evolved from being about pesky delays in IRS exemption applications to a government conniving with outside interests to put political opponents in prison.

Emails obtained by Judicial Watch through the Freedom of Information Act reveal Lois Lerner cooking up plans with Justice Department officials to talk about ways to criminally charge conservative groups that are insufficiently quiet.

Larry Noble, a law professor now with the Soros-funded Campaign Legal Center, was cited in the emails as someone agitating to jail conservatives who “falsely” report on IRS forms that they are not engaged in political speech. Lerner talked about setting up meetings with Justice Department election lawyers who wanted to talk about making Noble’s dreams a reality — this after Senator Sheldon Whitehouse raised the idea of criminal charges for conservatives who are not sufficiently quiet, charges that they falsely completed an IRS tax exemption form. Larry Noble

Their theory is a favorite among speech regulators in the Soros-funded left and academia. It goes like this: “Too much speech is bad (unless unions do it.) Groups who talk about things leftists find uncomfortable are necessarily political and thus should never have 501(c) tax exempt status. Criminally charge any group that said on their IRS tax exempt form that they were not political if they say things the left finds uncomfortable. Get Eric Holder’s Justice Department on the case.”

The emails obtained by Judicial Watch reveal this is essentially what was going on behind the scenes at the IRS, DOJ, and with outside leftist interests.

The emails, so far, only name a few of the speech regulators involved. But there are many who don’t appear in the latest document dump that give life to the cause of limiting the

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Society
KEYWORDS: doj; ericholder; holder; irs; lerner; soros

1 posted on 04/18/2014 1:50:16 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Pelham

There are really great reasons why there is a TON of emphasis put on the IRS being non-political:

Lessay military guys suddenly said, “We only take orders from officers who are REPUBLICANS..” What would libs say? Would they say, “That’s OK” ?

Maybe they’d settle for NO ONE going to jail..?

NOT IN A TRILLION YEARS.

They’d scream non-stop and the media would run with the story NON-STOP.


2 posted on 04/18/2014 1:53:14 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Pelham

“We can’t have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it.” - Mob Tool Harry Reid


3 posted on 04/18/2014 1:57:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Pelham

The Obama administration is truly one of the most evil and corrupt admiinistrations the world has ever seen. I don’t even think we can imagine how much more evil he would have become if they had taken our guns away already.


4 posted on 04/18/2014 1:58:18 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001
"I don’t even think we can imagine how much more evil he would have become if they had taken our guns away already."

If those darn rightwing crazies didn't have so many guns they'd all be in prison by now.

5 posted on 04/18/2014 2:01:03 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: gaijin

Or suppose instead a tank platoon commander said:

“Guys, I have this pre-election address roster from the GOP. What we’re going to do is, we’re going to clickety-clack down mainstreet with this here sheet and every time before we pass an address appearing on the sheet as ‘Democrat activist’, well, I want you to track the turret onto that there house.

“Got it, guys...? And then I want you to FIRE into that house —just blow it up...”

WHAT THEN?

What would the libs say?

What would they say if the Republicans took a huge, supposedly non-partisan government entity that risked serving as the perfect political weapon (funded by the whole country) and then it worked for JUST ONE SIDE...?

Cuz that is EXACTLY what we have here.


6 posted on 04/18/2014 2:01:39 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Pelham

Nothing to see here... move along.


7 posted on 04/18/2014 2:01:50 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Pelham

Time for a flat tax or at the very least, a tiered flat tax.


8 posted on 04/18/2014 2:03:22 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: jsanders2001

The Obama administration is truly one of the most evil and corrupt admiinistrations the world has ever seen.

********
We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. The corruption and manipulation that has been exposed is only scratching the surface.

Its a cliche, but I’m not sure that Americans could handle the truth. Remember one thing: if its bad for America, Obama is for it.


9 posted on 04/18/2014 2:07:46 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Pelham

Right after the election, I saw quite clearly that the dems had their mind set on destroying normal people. It was obvious in everything they said and did.
This is one aspect of that.
They are despicable.


10 posted on 04/18/2014 2:10:02 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Pelham
Get Eric Holder’s Justice Department on the case

You know that Lord Holder would have dropped EVERYTHING to jump on this persecution prosecution.

11 posted on 04/18/2014 2:12:42 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Pelham; All
deeper and deeper and slimier..the slime,
that is the 0'Muslim's IR$/N$A.
a corrupt Democ'rat's dream
..a country's nightmare.

12 posted on 04/18/2014 2:20:24 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. Cattlegate..0'Caligula / 0'Reid? ;-)
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To: I want the USA back

It was obvious with what they did to Joe the Plumber. That was before the 2008 election, wasn’t it, when Obama said to Joe that it was good to “spread the wealth around”?

How the HELL did he ever get elected!!??? Twice!?!


13 posted on 04/18/2014 2:21:19 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Pelham

Larry Noble was one of the KILLERS of the INNOCENT CHILDREN at WACO, I believe!!


14 posted on 04/18/2014 2:28:06 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
How the HELL did he ever get elected!!??? Twice!?!

Shovel-ready votes

15 posted on 04/18/2014 2:32:01 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (No Mo (zilla). I'm going to the Opera instead.)
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To: taxcontrol

FLAT TAX....No TIERS, just PERSONL EXEMPTIONS!!! EVERYONE needs to pay SOMETHING to have some skin in the game.


16 posted on 04/18/2014 2:38:51 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Pelham
IRS awarded contract to surveillance company that tracks license plates

A California-based surveillance vendor that sells access to license plate databases and the devices that indiscriminately collect that information has been reportedly cashing checks from the Internal Revenue Service and other federal offices.

According to procurement records seen by journalists at Bloomberg News, the IRS is among a group of United States government agencies that has awarded contracts to Vigilant Solutions, a seller of controversial license plate tracking technology that has attracted the ire of the American Civil Liberties Union and other privacy proponents in recent years.

On Thursday this week, Kathleen Miller wrote for Bloomberg that the IRS, the US Forest Service and the Air Force’s Air Combat Command have since 2009 conducted off the radar deals with Vigilant that allowed the company to receive roughly $415,000 from Uncle Sam.

License plate readers and the systems that scour vast databases of vehicle details — particularly the kinds offered by the Livermore, CA headquartered company — have increasingly been scrutinized by civil libertarians as of late. Only this past February, in fact, the US Department of Homeland Security scrapped plans to build and maintain a national database of license plate information just days after the Washington Post published details about the proposed program.

Ultimately, you’re creating a national database of location information,” Electronic Frontier Foundation staff attorney Jennifer Lynch told the Post at the time. “When all that data is compiled and aggregated, you can track somebody as they’re going through their life.”

Just two months later, Lynch now tells Bloomberg that she’s befuddled as to why the a federal tax agency would need to acquire such technology.

Especially with the IRS, I don’t know why these agencies are getting access to this kind of information,” she told Miller. “These systems treat every single person in an area as if they’re under investigation for a crime — that is not the way our criminal justice system was set up or the way things work in a democratic society.”

According to Bloomberg, the IRS awarded Vigilant a contract in June 2012 that for $1,188 provided the agency with “access to nationwide data.” Combined with contracts awarded to the Department of Agriculture’s Forest Service and the Air Combat Command, Vigilant has received nearly half-a-million dollars from the federal government in the last five years

As RT reported earlier this year, Vigilant and a similar company based out of Texas called Digital Recognition Network (DRN) filed a lawsuit in federal court asking a judge to issue a permanent injunction against a law in Utah that essentially abolished the sale and use of license plate readers by private companies and put restrictions on how long government agencies can store the data collected by those devices.

Todd Hodnett, the founder of DRN, told Utahls KSL news network at the time that the injunction “has already had a significant monetary impact on our corporation and our shareholders.”

And only this past week, a press release published on the Vigilant Solutions website accused civil liberties groups of “tak[ing] advantage of the growing national debate over surveillance” in order to spearhead “legislative onslaught” against surveillance vendors.

Indeed, Steve DelBianco of NetChoice, DC-based trade group that works with e-commerce companies, told Bloomberg this week that he thought the swelling complaints directed at vendors like Vigilant and DRN “is a knee-jerk reaction to Snowden revelations.”

Our governments require us to display a plate on our cars, visible on the front and back in public, for a reason,” he said.

When Bloomberg’s Miller approached the IRS about why that agency in particular required such ability, however, she came up empty handed.

The IRS uses a variety of investigative tools similar to other law-enforcement agencies to assist with criminal cases,” agency spokesperson Eric Smith told Bloomberg, likely referring to national policing agencies like the Justice Department’s Drug Enforcement Administration, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the US Marshals Service.

As far as tax agency goes, however, Smith “declined to say how the IRS used the records in its investigations,” Miller wrote.

According to the Bloomberg report, the US Department of Agriculture’s Forest Service awarded Vigilant a contract valued at over $7,000 in 2009 for use of its “CarDetector” system that scans local license plate numbers and attempts to match the tags against a master database. Then in August, the agency gave Vigilant another $7,500 for a subscription to its database and other services, according to Miller. Air Combat Command Spokesman Benjamin Newell told Miller that the $114,000 contract it awarded Vigilant in September 2011 provided them with readers that the military considers a “valuable tool” that makes base access “easier and more secure.”

17 posted on 04/18/2014 2:56:35 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Mariner

“I don’t even think we can imagine how much more evil he would have become if they had taken our guns away already.”
If those darn rightwing crazies didn’t have so many guns they’d all be in prison by now.

I think you meant “dead”


18 posted on 04/18/2014 3:09:27 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Alas Babylon!

> How the HELL did he ever get elected!!??? Twice!?!

I think he was appointed by Soros....: )


19 posted on 04/18/2014 3:12:55 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: taxcontrol

A Flat tax never stays flat. The US has had several flat taxes in its history. Always the same result; grows into a monstrosity.

Go with the FairTax. And don’t criticize it until you’ve actually studied and understood it:

http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=FAQs


20 posted on 04/18/2014 3:46:43 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Pelham

Here’s the solution:

http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=FAQs


21 posted on 04/18/2014 3:47:13 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

I have studied the fair tax and consider it far worse than a flat tax and on par with our current tax mess. No thank you.


22 posted on 04/18/2014 4:29:50 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Alas Babylon!
How the HELL did he ever get elected!!??? Twice!?!

The 47 percent layabouts, government grifters, illegal immigrants, dead voters.

23 posted on 04/18/2014 6:23:12 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: taxcontrol

Uh Huh. So name one thing in which it is ‘far worse’.


24 posted on 04/18/2014 6:26:12 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

The entire fairtax rebate system falls apart in states with a sales tax and no income tax. It makes a strange kind of sense to me but the complexity is not so distant from the original laws implementing the current income tax. With tweaks added for those states the fairtax gets ever more complex. And then the requirment for still more tweaks invites the critters to layer on the “refinements.”

I’m a big believer in user fees to fund goverment infrastructure. The tech is here to track your road usage. Pay for it every month. Likewise parks, parking lots etc.

The national defense requires a flattax every year, from everybody.


25 posted on 04/18/2014 7:17:09 PM PDT by theneanderthal
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To: Hostage

Double taxation


26 posted on 04/19/2014 7:01:06 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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