Skip to comments.Diamond Bar Ranch in NM Seized by US Forest Service
Posted on 04/19/2014 8:11:07 AM PDT by B4Ranch
Southwest New Mexico The Diamond Bar Ranch was acquired by the Laney family in 1986, and its adjacent Laney Cattle Company was allowed to utilize grazing lands since 1883. According to the US Forest Service, however, they are no longer entitled to do so, and the USFS has posted notices along the fence line of their property advising people not to attempt to enter the ranch. Lands are being seized, and the cattle removed, one way or the other.
Now they say that the cattle may be redeemed if the Laneys pay for the costs of rounding up the 80 head of cattle a hefty $40,950.
Reductions in the herds, loss of appeals, a hard life all because of a fish
Originally, the Laney property was just 115 acres surrounded by around 144,000 acres of public lands for which Mr. Laney paid grazing rights. But after a study by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service decided that the lands could not sustain his 1,188 head of cattle, the Forest Service reduced his cattle herd to a meager 300 head.
Kits fight for the land and the ranching lifestyle cost him dearly over the years, even to the point of a divorce, as both Kit and Sherry grew exhausted from the battle. They were barred from improvements on the wilderness land for several years, which required them to ride out to livestock on horseback rather than hop in a truck. That and the continual stress of appeals, took a toll, though they eventually reconciled.
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Is this happening to the Laney’s again? I thought all this transpired years ago.
I always wondered how the Germans could participate in the slaughter of Jews. I understand now. Government paychecks corrupt the soul.
There was the time in 2005 when he went to jail. Now the BLM has come back at him because he didn’t fully surrender his land.
If memory serves me, that is Forest Service land like the grazing lands in neighboring Arizona. That doesn’t make any difference in Feds’ intent to clear government property of American ranchers, miners and loggers.
Apparently the leftists want the US to acquire all our edible produce from China & other countries. No more eat local/buy local.
Sounds like the BLM needs a little more confrontation in their face.
We, the People, for better or worse, are on our own, My FRiend.
One can like or not like it. One can accept it or reject it. But that is the way it is. One can also learn to deal with it, which is what happened in Nevada. How it will play out elsewhere remains yet to be seen.
“According to the US Forest Service, however, they are no longer entitled to do so”
According to me the Forest Service is no longer allowed to be in business.....
UN Agenda 21.
Yup. Agenda 21, the cover for the collateralization of our country’s assets in trade for foreign countries buying our debt.
The foreign buyers are realizing this land and its mineral and water rights and timber is the only way they’ll ever get their money back.
They don’t want us eating anything that does not come from big agra. GMO is good for you as is corporate cattle.
The environmentalist ‘battle’ here has been going on for decades. Dave Forman, who started Earf First, worked on a ranch in this particular county, Catron County, before the locals figured out what he was up to. The same goes for the Center For Biological Diversity. Peter Galvin and Kierian Suckling were living just outside of Luna ‘studying’ owls, and the local ranchers were more than accomodating to let them do suck before figuring out that the forest would soon be closed to timber harvesting and grazing due to new policy’s put in place (under the Clinton’s) in direct response to the ‘biological study’s’. Kierian and Peter received their very first ‘grant’ from Ted Turner and thus the Center for Biological Diversity was born, though it was called something else back then.
To the Gang Greenes, any logging or grazing here is a damnable offense. They truly would like to see the Gila National Forest closed to all humans. Regarding the ‘endangered’ Gila Trout, the FS will bring in helicopters and remove the fish from the creeks (shocking them) if fire or anything else threatens them. Doing such has cost millions of dollars over the past few decades. The FS even went so far as to literally poison all the headwater feeders of the Gila River, after having first removed the Gila Trout, in an attempt to kill all other species of trout (which the FS itself introduced many decades ago) and all other aquatic life being casualties of the poisoning program.
The current head of the Gila National Forest is a lesbian who allowed pretty much the bulk of the forest to burn down a couple of years ago since it is ‘natural’. There was a period of about 2 weeks in which the initial fire could have been put out. It started on the edge of the Shelley ranch and Mr Shelley called it in after having riden up there on his horse (he and I go to the same church). The lesbian had no intention of putting out the fire, since the plan is to return the forest to its ‘natural’ state. This also includes removing all grazing allotment, stopping all timber harvesting, and closing damn near the whole forest to any motorized traffic, even an ATV to remove harvested game. The lesbian in charge successfully DID close the forest of her former post in CA. Now she is tasked to do the same here.
There is a battle brewing over 14,000 acre water feet in the AZ water settlements act, and the proposals of the Interstate Stream Commission. The gang greens want to water to not be touched, whereas sane people have developed plans to capture the water during flood stages only, to be stored and used as needed.
The main idea here, of which Kit Laney is only one casualty of, is to clearly institute the UN agenda 21. There is no doubt remaining. These people are insane and godless. They embrace anything not of God and absolutely disdain Christians. I know, because I have to deal with them on an almost daily basis. Useful idiots, every last one of them.
Are we to believe that the land is so crappy in New Mexico that it can only support 1 cow per 128 acres? What is it, on big, fricken rock?
“Apparently the leftists want the US to acquire all our edible produce from China & other countries. No more eat local/buy local.”
They want the West to be a theme park where all of us hicks work for minimum wage while wearing western costume and serving our betters who are vacation from the east.
It’s been years since I’ve read anything about Catron County. Sorry to hear they are winning. Maybe, just maybe with a little bit of luck we can get our sheriffs to evict the Feds and their minions.
There’s months on end, during the dry late summer and fall, when it would take 500 acres per AUM.
When will the courts recognize THAT?
Perhaps only when they find BLM agents hanging from trees.
That's right, those guys who go out in BLM trucks all by themselves...often more than 20 miles from the nearest paved road. Even further.
It's gotta suck to be them right now as it's not unreasonable to assume it will be them that pay the bulk of the bill coming due.
These guys can be picked off one at a time too.
There most certainly are places in NM that require 500 acres/AUM, but the Gila does not fall into that category.
I really don’t think ‘luck’ will have anything to do with keeping the libtard agenda at bay. The Gang Greens have so much financial backing and are relentless. It puts ‘us’ on a constant defensive position. It is the exact same battle we are fighting to save our Republic. Who would have ever thought, that in this country, this very conversation we are having is being recorded for all history, wether or not we use a public forum such as this, or do so in private? Who would have thought that in order to stand up for Bundy, U.S. Citizens had to do such in caged off areas? There are bus stops for the school children in Catron County that have protective ‘cages’ at the bus stops that the children can flee into if the re-introduced Mexican Gray Wolves decide they are hungry.
Fortunately, NM Rep Steve Pearce DOES stand up for us, but he is only one man. Gov Susana is a good woman but she is getting stars in her eyes at the prospect of ‘rising’ onto the national stage (her advisor, Jay, needs to go). It is a battle taking on one rancher, one logging company, one farmer and one mine at a time. I hate to sound cliche, but united we must stand!
Reminds me about the Federal Game Wardens that moved into South Louisiana to stop the over the limit duck hunting. After two of them disappeared never to be found the Feds moved on......
Then there is the crackdown on the pot growing operations in Northern California. After the Feds came in and cracked down on the growers, the cartels set the old growth forests on fire. The scorched earth approach worked to stop the crackdown.....
The moral of the stories are that when faced with the risk of life and property, the individuals tasked with performing the deeds may realize that the outcome can be much worse.....
I’m praying that the testosterone levels of all participants in this matter drop drastically. we don’t need anyone hanging from a tree, at least no yet. I think the sheer number of respondents to the Bundy Ranch exhibited a earth shattering echo across all of America that us patriots are ready, willing and able to defend our liberty and property rights against all corrupt politicians who are using federal agencies for personal gain.
The Center For Biological Diversity receives federal grants to pursue their goals. They get tax dollars to sue on behalf of the CBD! The Republicans know all about it and don’t do squat about it.
United we must stand if we want to win.
Maybe the same story but one was found hanging in a tree , gutted.
“The Center For Biological Diversity receives federal grants to pursue their goals.”
Whoa!!! So our tax dollars are used by CBD to sue our government, which in turn our tax dollars are used for the proceedings? Do you have documentation links?
I agree with your lowering of “testosterone” comment...
“After two of them disappeared never to be found the Feds moved on......”
Plumb dangerous sneaking around a swamp.
I could see that happening sneaking around in the forest. Not wearing blaze orange. Getting misstook for a deer.
I know in many parts of the country poaching is almost a lifestyle. I would not put it on the same footing as rancher’s running their cattle on land where they have water and usage rights.
But back to the point, these Feds are going to be taking a closer look at their “risk assessment” the next time they go after a rancher. I am glad that Bundy got the support, and was not treated like the usual “lone, old crazy guy that refused to pay his fee...”
If you are taking heart meds then by all means ignore this post. If you are prone to having fits of anger that you cannot control then by all means ignore this post. If you enjoy speaking with your legislators then please continue reading.
Google The Center For Biological Diversity receives federal grants
and start reading. Try to control your dismay.
Yes they use our tax dollars to fund their craziness to put ranchers and farmers out of business.
I’ve actually had more than one liberal tell me the IRS investigation and refusing C-4 status to TEA party groups was good as they were “Right-wing” and C-4 groups are not supposed to be political. Well isn’t this group (CFBD), SPLC, and a host of other environmental and “civil rights” groups “Left-wing” and extremely political?
I then ask them, “So when (or if) a Republican ever gets in office, we can revoke all the Leftist groups C-4 status?”
The howls are heard for miles!
In any case we should. I think Congress should at least cut all funding. Doesn’t Boehner realize that CFBD will use it’s funds to defeat Republicans that give him his majority in the first place? Does he really mean to fund his foes?
It’s funny how when illegal immigrants, drug runners, and scum bags engaged in human trafficking, trash our parks, lakes, and forests along the border......environmental concerns seem to vanish!!!!
What gets me about this whole deal is , The land in question is OPEN RANGE ,that means that if the government doesn't want the cattle on it they have to put up fences to keep the cattle out . Not send JBT with guns.
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Question! I would like to know how many people in official capacity from bottom to top i.e. at city, county, states, and federal level who wear badges and arms are there in the USA. I tend to think the total number is way beyond what ordinary citizens are led to believe or talked about. Leave out the state and national guard personnel unless such also serve as regular so called law enforcement people. Is there info on such numbers?
* The EPA assigns one million acres to previous owners in Wyoming.
* The BLM Rustles cattle in Nevada.
* Now the USFS Rustles Cattle in New Mexico.
What will Speaker Boehner do now to punish these lawless Federal Bureaus?
BTW, have y’all noticed that Obama is very effectively using these lawless events by his Bureaus to distract from the NSA, Benghazi, IRS and Obamacare Scandals?
Same thing with Laetrile and Baking Soda.
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I don't see it that way. They are all part of the same issue, the same big issue: a government that is too big, too corrupt, too incompetent, too intrusive - and people are getting sick of it.
Your “disgust” paintbrush is to broad.
What needs be done,
As you and I know,
Is Special Prosecute each Scandal,
All in a row.
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