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Moyes is OUT! Glazers finally lose patience with Fergie's failed replacement and now United boss..
UK Daily Mail ^ | April 21, 2014 | Ian Ladyman

Posted on 04/21/2014 7:45:31 AM PDT by C19fan

David Moyes will be sacked by Manchester United in the coming weeks and could even go before the end of the day. United’s owners the Glazer family have finally lost patience with Moyes after a dismal season that has seen the reigning Barclays Premier League champions slump to seventh in the table. The final straw was Sunday's 2-0 defeat at Everton, their 11th in the Barclays Premier League this season, and a result that left the title holders down 13 points off the Champions League places.

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Another example of the thankless task of replacing a legendary manager/coach especially with a rabid fan base like MU has.
1 posted on 04/21/2014 7:45:31 AM PDT by C19fan
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You broke the news on this for me, I will have to see. Don’t really care about MUFC, know they are one of the most popular clubs on the planet though.


2 posted on 04/21/2014 7:47:33 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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“David Moyes: Manchester United ‘no comment’ on boss rumours

Manchester United are offering no comment on reports that David Moyes is set to be sacked as manager. “

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26352231

The front office not commenting I take as meaning that he will be sacked.


3 posted on 04/21/2014 7:49:33 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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Who really cares about a game played by Brits in cute little shorts? Soccer players and fans are a waste of oxygen.


4 posted on 04/21/2014 8:33:54 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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You can save a little time by just typing “waah.”


5 posted on 04/21/2014 8:38:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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I never noticed the “cute little shorts” unless it’s the women who are playing.


6 posted on 04/21/2014 9:36:45 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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To: righttackle44
A lot of people do: Manchester United is one of most valuable sporting franchises on Earth, period. As such, if they do poorly, the whole world knows about it, especially now that Premier League matches are available on the widely available NBC Sports Network (the former Versus network) here in the USA.

There are increasing rumors that Lionel Messi wants to switch to a Premier League team once his contract with FC Barcelona ends; we may have a huge bidding war in the Premier League for him very soon.

7 posted on 04/21/2014 9:37:44 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: C19fan

Hands off of Martinez!!!!!


8 posted on 04/21/2014 9:41:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RayChuang88

I’d like to see Messi in the Premier League. When is his contract up at Barca?


9 posted on 04/21/2014 9:41:49 AM PDT by Mr Fuji
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The big problem United faces, is being eclipsed by their cross-town rival.

Lot of rumors that City is going to go hard after Messi.


10 posted on 04/21/2014 9:42:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: righttackle44
Who really cares about a game played by Brits in cute little shorts?

The thing is, there are relatively few "Brits" on a Premier League side.

11 posted on 04/21/2014 9:44:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RayChuang88

Big mistake by Barca bringing in Neymar. Having more than one prima donna on a team is poison.


12 posted on 04/21/2014 9:47:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: righttackle44

“Soccer players and fans are a waste of oxygen”

Nonsense. They have the most entertaining and finest hooliganism on the planet.


13 posted on 04/21/2014 9:57:26 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: dfwgator

” The thing is, there are relatively few “Brits” on a Premier League side. “

Not really sure if that is so true anymore.

Everton, West Ham, Crystal Palce all started 7 Brits/Irish in their last game.

http://int.soccerway.com/matches/2014/04/20/england/premier-league/everton-football-club/manchester-united-fc/1483800/

http://int.soccerway.com/matches/2014/04/19/england/premier-league/west-ham-united-fc/crystal-palace-fc/1483806/

Even the Man City manager Peregrini came under some criticism for almost not having any English players in their loss vs. Liverpool.

http://int.soccerway.com/matches/2014/04/13/england/premier-league/liverpool-fc/manchester-city-football-club/1483790/

While we see Liverpool had a few, in general, I guess the top clubs have fewer.

If you get over half of your players in the starting selection from the home countries including Ireland, I think you are doing fairly well.


14 posted on 04/21/2014 10:06:25 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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To: C19fan

Big mistake to give a coach less than one year.


15 posted on 04/21/2014 10:10:51 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Agreed. Now they practically have to bring some name-manager/coach in if the Scot has been let go. Whomever that may be.


16 posted on 04/21/2014 10:13:05 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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I for one, would love to see Cantona be their manager, it wouldn’t be boring.


17 posted on 04/21/2014 10:38:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: C19fan

Huh?????


18 posted on 04/21/2014 10:45:55 AM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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To: dfwgator

They probably won’t do it but Ryan Giggs. Even if he plays another year, Player-Coach.


19 posted on 04/21/2014 12:31:21 PM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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I thought about him too.

The other guy I’m thinking of is Jürgen Klopp the Borussia Dortmund manager.


20 posted on 04/21/2014 12:46:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

Goal.com is saying Giggs will be the interim manager.


21 posted on 04/21/2014 12:55:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I would like to see Roberto Martinez stay at Everton.

I am not sure who I would like to see as the new manager of Manchester United, unless Sir Alex wants to come back and manage.


22 posted on 04/21/2014 12:56:57 PM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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To: Eric Roelfsema

United is a mess, their day of reckoning was due to come, and it has. They got into so much debt, they couldn’t compete for the big signings. They got Van Persie, but he got hurt. Rooney is a shell of his former self.
Nani never quite lived up to his potential.

The one guy they’ve got that could become a superstar is Januzaj. But for some reason Moyes hasn’t played him a heck of a lot.


23 posted on 04/21/2014 1:05:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

Man U has a total of 10 people from the UK on their roster.

Ryan Giggs, Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, Tom Cleverley, DAnny Welbeck, Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Johnny Evans, Michael Carrick, Darren Fletcher & Ashley Young. The other countries represented at Man U are the Netherlands (van Persie), France (Evra), Mexico (Hernandez), Belgium (Januzaj, Fellaini), Spain (Mata, de Gea), Uruguay (Valencia), Cape Verde (Nani), Japan (Kagawa), Germany (Buttner), Serbia (Vidic), Brazil (Rafael)


24 posted on 04/21/2014 1:08:19 PM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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To: dfwgator

The same thing applies with potential to Ashley Young.

They need to but 2 Central defenders for next year, assuming Rio retires and Vidic goes somewhere else next season.

If I am Man U I do not want to have to have Phil Jones and Chris Smalling as main my two center backs.


25 posted on 04/21/2014 1:10:47 PM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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To: dfwgator
Manchester City could go after Messi because the team is owned by big money (and I do mean BIG money) interests from Abu Dhabi, and as such they could afford to pay for Messi once his contract ends with FC Barcelona.
26 posted on 04/21/2014 1:37:38 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Eric Roelfsema

Yes, the lineup that included Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, Neville, Ferdinand etc. has been one heckuva class of British players Utd. had.


27 posted on 04/21/2014 1:40:20 PM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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You can see where Man U misses Scholes in the central midfield. Scholes IMO was the guy that ran the team through the midfield. Same thing applies for Yaya Toure for Man City, Steven Gerrard for Liverpool and Frank Lampard for Chelsea.

In terms of Neville, I will bit a little sarcastic here, which one? They had two brothers, one now in the broadcast booth and the other is currently the assistant to David Moyes and played at Everton before retiring.


28 posted on 04/21/2014 1:57:29 PM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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Whichever one, it is not important, some of the info here is foggy, that’s not important.

Southampton certainly has put very English/British sides out this year even with an Argentinan manager. At Soccerway.com which I use daily and comes out of the Netherlands, one can check out squads, everything on, one of my favorite sites.

Have a good day, nice to meet you.


29 posted on 04/21/2014 2:07:46 PM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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He is sacked.

“Moyes sacked

Posted at 08:41

Here is how Manchester United broke the news on Twitter:

Man Utd: Manchester United announces that David Moyes has left the club. The club would like to place on record its thanks for the hard work, honesty and integrity he brought to the role.”

http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/26435962

Story broke at 8:32 on the BBC


30 posted on 04/22/2014 12:45:56 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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To: All

Moyes will easily find employment elsewhere, Newcastle? Somewhere. Wasn’t a good fit to begin with.


31 posted on 04/22/2014 12:48:35 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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To: dfwgator

You were right about Giggs becoming the interim manager.


32 posted on 04/22/2014 4:36:12 AM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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I think if Moyes is going to get a job somewhere next year he is going to have to go down to the Championship. No one in the Premier League is going to want to have Moyes after the way that he screwed up Man U.


33 posted on 04/22/2014 4:42:15 AM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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Guess we could call this “The Damned United - The Sequel”.

Some parallels between this and Clough at Leeds....It’s hard to come into a team that has had success then tell them you are changing everything they are doing. Perhaps Sir Alex believed, since Moyes was a fellow Scot, that he would stay the course.

And obviously United wouldn’t make this move without knowing who the replacement will be, I think it has to be Jurgen Klopp.


34 posted on 04/22/2014 6:01:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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They probably won’t do it but Ryan Giggs. Even if he plays another year, Player-Coach.

Looks like you called it first.

And Roberto Martinez got Wigan relegated, they aren't going for him.

35 posted on 04/22/2014 6:05:38 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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It was amazing Wigan stayed up as long as they did. And I might remind you he did win an FA Cup with them.

But by all means, keep saying that Martinez isn’t any good. ;)


36 posted on 04/22/2014 6:07:56 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Eric Roelfsema

Yeah, Moyes probably will wind up with one of the clubs that drops, probably either Sunderland, or Fulham.


37 posted on 04/22/2014 6:10:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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It was amazing Wigan stayed up as long as they did. And I might remind you he did win an FA Cup with them.

But by all means, keep saying that Martinez isn’t any good. ;)

You won't find me saying Martinez wasn't any good; all I said was Martinez got Wigan relegated or in other words was at the helm of Wigan when they went down. That is fact.

Martinez has been on the side of some real 'hidings' as well, on the side of some of the most lopsided losses in recent Premier League matches to the point to where the Club apologized to fans. That's just the truth. Nothing wrong with mentioning this as well.

Chelsea 8 0 Wigan

Tottenham 9 0 Wigan

38 posted on 04/22/2014 6:25:45 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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Make that Tottenham 9 1 Wigan Cracking Result!
39 posted on 04/22/2014 6:28:21 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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Wigan had the lowest attendance of any club...so obviously they didn’t have the resources to compete at the top level, but still they had a decent run.

They probably really belong in the Championship with their spending levels. Actually as of now, they are in the playoffs to return to the Premier League.


40 posted on 04/22/2014 6:31:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

Chelsea beat ARSEnull 6-0 this year....It happens.


41 posted on 04/22/2014 6:33:49 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Martinez was close to being sacked a number of times when he was at Wigan: http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/979912/dave-whelan:-i-would-sack-roberto-martinez?cc=5739

Previous managers got Wigan into the Premier League not Martinez. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigan_Athletic_F.C.

Blackpool, Norwich. There have been other small clubs in the Premier League.

Wigan has an owner who probably has a lot to do with their success as well. Wigan are in the playoff spots now but they sacked their previous manager Owen Coyle, Martinez’s successor.

I’m just saying we shouldn’t read too much into things, one could say the team Martinez is winning with was largely created during Moyes’ reign as manager and that Manchester United was just a poisoned chalice job but I’m glad they went for Moyes in the first place, worth a try, Ferguson’s handpicked successor.


42 posted on 04/22/2014 6:45:17 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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To: BeadCounter

Actually Everton’s success has a lot to do with the players they got on loan (Lukuku, Barry, Deulofeu)

They will have a challenge in the off-season to replace them.


43 posted on 04/22/2014 6:55:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

Sir Alex was close to getting sacked a few times as well, I think it was three years before he won any hardware at United.


44 posted on 04/22/2014 6:56:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Sir Alex was close to getting sacked a few times as well, I think it was three years before he won any hardware at United.

Which is also an argument for why they should have given Moyes more time but Manchester United are an international brand and I know everyone argues that this United team are better than anything Ferguson took over.

But didn't Ferguson lose two times in the Champions League in recent years to Bayern Munich? Moyes' team did just about as well.

They should have given Moyes more time but didn't because Manchester United are an international brand and as an aside, they are playing in that international cup in the US in July, August. I know that's basically a tour but it will give everyone a chance to see some European teams nonetheless and should be interesting considering the Red Devils will have a new manager.

Ancelotti was treated poorly imo at Chelsea and he is suprised Moyes was sacked and sympathizes with him. MUFC should have given Moyes more time.

45 posted on 04/22/2014 7:25:09 AM PDT by BeadCounter ( Let's hope profanity remains the only stranger here.)
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I agree 100% that Moyes got a raw deal.

I think he deserved an off-season to try to right the ship and bring in more of his players, and get rid of the vestiges of the Sir Alex era.

Heck, if Will Muschamp can still be the coach at Florida, then Moyes should still be at MU.


46 posted on 04/22/2014 7:27:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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http://www.worldsoccer.com/columnists/brian-glanville/dont-blame-moyes-blame-ferguson

“Why blame Moyes? Blame Ferguson. No, not because he allegedly left Moyes with a United team which he knew had run its course. What nonsense. United had won the Greed Is Good League with a massive 11 points advantage and if there were some indication that the team as the saying goes was growing old together, it surely should have had another season in it.

No, I find Ferguson culpable because perhaps unconsciously he didn’t want to nominate a manager who would steal his reverent thunder. Mourinho might have done that. Van Gaal, who could now be taking over, might also have done it.

Moyes is a perfectly decent, thoroughly competent middle of the road manager. One who has never won anything of consequence, but succeeded in keeping a far from wealthy club such as Everton constantly in the top division.”

Read more at http://www.worldsoccer.com/columnists/brian-glanville/dont-blame-moyes-blame-ferguson#50fPtCovyts3rKls.99

Agree or disagree, I always like reading Brian Glanville’s columns and he just came out with one on this event. Glanville came out with World Soccer, the monthly magazine decades ago and is still writing. He also authored a history of the World Cup that is decent.


47 posted on 04/22/2014 9:49:54 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

One of the major part of Wigan’s attendance problem is due to that they are more of a Rugby city than they are a soccer city. Wigan was one of the least financed teams in the Premier League.

Just look at the difference that Martinez made after getting to a much better financed and supported club in Everton. I am not sure that David Moyes could have Everton right now in a position to possibly get in the Champions League. Moyes is not a good enough of a coach to put a Europa League or Champions League team together.


48 posted on 04/22/2014 10:42:47 AM PDT by Eric Roelfsema
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To: Eric Roelfsema

We’ll see with time.

Some people say Rafa’s team that won the Champions League was basically built by his predecessor, Gérard Houllier.

I know that about Wigan, doesn’t have much to do with the conversation though. Egg-Chasers, Rugby.

I don’t recall any of Moyes’ Everton teams being on the side of 8-0 and 9-1 hidings or being dropped, fighting relegation every year either.


49 posted on 04/22/2014 11:00:17 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Also, I give all the credit in the world to Wigan for winning the FA Cup; But all the same, a wide array of clubs have won it, Sunderlands, Wolves and so on and some of those clubs have won more than 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FA_Cup_winners


50 posted on 04/22/2014 11:27:43 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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