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Experts: Civilians not ready for EMP-caused blackout
watchdog.org ^ | April 21, 2014 | Josh Peterson

Posted on 04/21/2014 7:59:57 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4

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More at the site...Not much meat in this article however.
1 posted on 04/21/2014 7:59:57 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4
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To: Ghost of SVR4

I don’t think we would ever be ready for it— somewhat prepared maybe but never ready.


2 posted on 04/21/2014 8:03:08 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

IOW, we’d better print up a lot more money and throw it to our corporate friends to “solve” this very low probability problem.


3 posted on 04/21/2014 8:03:14 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: Ghost of SVR4
I'm much more concerned about government-caused blackout.
For starters, it's more likely to happen.

4 posted on 04/21/2014 8:05:22 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Frank Gaffney says protecting the power grid would not even cost that much.

Our government shoves any bill aside that is about protecting the power grid.

Wonder why? Or maybe not.


5 posted on 04/21/2014 8:05:35 AM PDT by dforest
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To: BitWielder1

That or some key transformers taken out for some decently placed .308 or 30-06 rounds.


6 posted on 04/21/2014 8:06:22 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
The article is just useless handwringing. It says nothing about design survivability, EMI/RFI shielding or EMP hardness techniques that could be employed by an individual.

Beyond that, the true systems that are vulnerable, communications, power distribution and transportation are, largely, out of the control of individuals to do anything meaningful. They require systemic changes.

7 posted on 04/21/2014 8:09:46 AM PDT by pfflier
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For the most part, yup, useless. I started the thread to more or less get conversation going about the subject. I’ve been trying to prep for a little over a year now as I am worried about an EMP attempt against us (the U.S.). Last I read, our southern side is not truly “monitored” and a device could come sailing up that direction with some bad results to many area’s (not total, but a decent chunk of the country). Couple that with Iran (last year) practicing some launch’s in the black sea of inert missles almost “straight up” which “experts” concluded was to put a device in orbit. I’ll see if i can find that link.


8 posted on 04/21/2014 8:24:12 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Sometimes the thought of one nice big EMP sounds pretty good.

Level the playing field, so to speak.


9 posted on 04/21/2014 8:29:06 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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To: BitWielder1
I'm much more concerned about government-caused blackout. For starters, it's more likely to happen.

Is it just me, or these stories/articles about possible disasters coming with much more frequency? Some from government agencies too.

10 posted on 04/21/2014 8:33:01 AM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is like the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

I’ve read many differing reports on the effect of an EMP weapon over the U.S. I just don’t know what the damage would be, however, if we are talking half the country knocked out for a sustained period of time, the disease will sweep through the country as millions die off in starvation in the first ninety days alone. Hungry people are highly dangerous people.


11 posted on 04/21/2014 8:33:43 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: voicereason
You're not alone. Even Obama is talking about "fears of -pick a city- being nuked. I've been seeing more sites pick up the EMP angle (again). Strangely, Iran is almost off the front pages with it's nuclear program which is still alive and kicking.

/feels like a pressure cooker..

12 posted on 04/21/2014 8:35:43 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

You went and got serious on me.

I was dreaming of no social networks, no demand for on-line registrations and passwords, (no bo-care websites), no data backup worries, etc.


13 posted on 04/21/2014 8:37:40 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

EMPs come in “sizes.” From weak to ultra-powerful.

Devices come with various levels of susceptibility, from virtually immune to hyper-delicate.

Any EMP from any source — solar, or evil — will likely not “wipe out everything,” as Chicken Little fears. The true result will be chaotic, some ok, some not so ok.

But EMP isn’t the ultimate bogeyman — it’s just another hazard, and it can be mitigated in advance to a degree by what you use and how you use and expose it.

Do some research, and several personal protection measures will suggest themselves.

Don’t panic. Think. ...and learn.


14 posted on 04/21/2014 8:41:13 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
People who have been trained in the area of EMP can see the threat. People familiar with military weapons can see the vulnerabilities.

Still at an individual level, I can hard ground my house, shield the breaker box and put all lines in grounded conduits. Still, I lose control of everything from the power meter out.

15 posted on 04/21/2014 8:43:48 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Ghost of SVR4
Back in the cold war the Russians certainly knew about the EMP effects of a nuclear detonation at high altitude and had the capability to launch an EMP attack at the US. They were deterred from launching an EMP attack, because they knew the US would respond with a devastating nuclear attack on the USSR...the old MAD doctrine.

However today Obama displays nothing but weakness and indecisiveness and many doubt he would launch a nuclear strike under any circumstance. Adding to this are nations, like Iran, and terrorist groups that are driven by religious fanaticism and would not hesitate to use such a weapon against the "Great Satan" regardless of the consequences. These factors make the US far more vulnerable to EMP attack from rogue nations or terrorists. We should be actively protecting our electrical grid and other key elements of our data system.

16 posted on 04/21/2014 8:45:29 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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The problem is the politics Liberals. It always seems to be the politics Liberals that gets in the way
17 posted on 04/21/2014 8:57:21 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

The book “One Second After” is about a hypothetical EMP strike that’s supposed to be pretty sobering. It’s on Kindle but I haven’t read it yet. I suppose the most important thing is stored food and water.


18 posted on 04/21/2014 8:57:21 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Me too, as long as it was world wide. I have ammo, seeds, and water, I am good.


19 posted on 04/21/2014 9:03:47 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Ghost of SVR4

Ping for ref anyway


20 posted on 04/21/2014 9:08:14 AM PDT by Swen Manuela1
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