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Waiting for the end of the World.
me | 04/21/14 | Zeneta

Posted on 04/21/2014 6:45:24 PM PDT by Zeneta

I, like most conservative thinking people reject any and virtually all attempts to "Tell Me" what to think.

We tend to have a need to find out things in a different way. Experience, and a deeper understanding of human nature then that what the "books" have to say.

Those that trust the books of the elitist class have sold themselves into its slavery. The slavery of being told, the slavery of authority. They have bought into the uncertainty contained in what it means to be alive.

Lost is an understatement.

The lost souls of indifference are exploited by every and all. Because they can.

Debating with my ex-girlfriend on any number of topics I found myself asking her "What do you own" ?

What, do you hold as truth ?

I was an A**hole and verbally attacked for asking.

This is the issue.


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1 posted on 04/21/2014 6:45:24 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Zeneta

I was hoping to start a discussion on the exploitation of “Indifference”


2 posted on 04/21/2014 6:53:34 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

Wait. You’re mad at books?


3 posted on 04/21/2014 6:57:05 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Zeneta

I hold these truths to be self evident.... you know the rest.


4 posted on 04/21/2014 6:58:59 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Zeneta

As in government exploiting the indifference of citizens and causing us to lose more freedoms because of indifference or as in people being lackadaisical?


5 posted on 04/21/2014 7:01:27 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Zeneta

Christ says, “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.”


6 posted on 04/21/2014 7:03:17 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Zeneta
What do you own ?

7 Pure gold put in the fire comes out of it proved pure; genuine faith put through this suffering comes out proved genuine. When Jesus wraps this all up, it's your faith, not your gold, that God will have on display as evidence of his victory. 8 You never saw him, yet you love him. You still don't see him, yet you trust him - with laughter and singing. 9 Because you kept on believing, you'll get what you're looking forward to: total salvation.

What, do you hold as truth ?

John 14:6--Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7 posted on 04/21/2014 7:18:05 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Zeneta

Most sheeple do not read books


8 posted on 04/21/2014 7:21:48 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: DManA

No, I’m frustrated with people that “refuse” to think for themselves.

I mad that the MSM, exploits this.

I’m frustrated that whether you are on the right or left, what is being pushed to you is a sound bite that has no context.

It’s as if they think they can form public opinion in a series of 30 second sound bites.

I object to that.

Both from the right and left.

It leaves most thinking individuals to fight for a reality that they, the media, doesn’t seem to have time for.

Why bother anymore.

It’s all become a PR war. It’s a joke.

No wonder that the youth are so cynical.

Everybody is, or should be cynical.

Now, this is the rub.

The left has exploited this mindset soo much better than us Conservatives.

The left has convinced virtually everybody that the Tea Party is racist, that republicans are racist etc etc etc...

It is a negative feedback loop that liberals blindly continue to feed into.

Books ?

Liberal books, written by wanna be professors in a system that requires they get published ?

So they can keep their job ?

Have you ever read what these people put out ?

It’s retarded stuff.

Sorry.

So, I’m waiting for the end of the World.


9 posted on 04/21/2014 7:30:57 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Irenic

A brave new World, indeed.


10 posted on 04/21/2014 7:32:52 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

Waiting for the end of the world...isn’t that indifference?


11 posted on 04/21/2014 7:38:07 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Zeneta

Are you Meat Loaf?

“Waiting for the end of time
To hurry up and arrive....”


12 posted on 04/21/2014 7:43:30 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Zeneta

Sometimes it helps to get away from the news and politics and world events because those things can be more sad than happy.

The end of the world will inevitably come for each of us when we die.

In the meantime, instead of waiting, it might make things more bearable if you can find some things to laugh about.

I like watching funny movies (like The Three Amigos) or reading funny things like anything by P.G. Wodehouse.

:-)


13 posted on 04/21/2014 7:44:47 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: DManA

He hates these cans!


14 posted on 04/21/2014 7:45:53 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Irenic

Waiting for the end of the world...isn’t that indifference?


Yes it is.

But it’s the difference between knowing the difference and not knowing.

The difference is of knowing vs. willful ignorance.


15 posted on 04/21/2014 7:48:03 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

But then wouldn’t that make you selfish?


16 posted on 04/21/2014 7:49:38 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Irenic

But then wouldn’t that make you selfish?


No.

It makes me Judgmental.

This can not be allowed.


17 posted on 04/21/2014 7:52:52 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

To know the difference and not try to show others the difference...I think it’s more than being judgmental. It’s stubbornness and a bit selfish. You can make a difference.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Heraclitus


18 posted on 04/21/2014 7:57:46 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: BenLurkin

I’m trying to find the youtube video associated with your words.

Come to me.

You are spot on.

Jennifer Knapp

Come to me.


19 posted on 04/21/2014 8:01:02 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Irenic

What the F888 do you own ?

What do you acquiesce to get along in order keep from causing trouble ?

Do you make compromises ?

Why ?


20 posted on 04/21/2014 8:05:59 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

So, I’m waiting for the end of the World.

You won’t have to wait long...

http://www.patburt.com/


21 posted on 04/21/2014 8:10:12 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Zeneta

Exactly the way I feel too. All day long everywhere. I am just weary of hearing no you can’t say or do this or that, you’ll offend. I am tired of compromising me. All these “special” interest groups bitching always about everything. ENOUGH!!!!!


22 posted on 04/21/2014 8:13:50 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Send your dollar to see the birth certificate)
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To: Zeneta
What the F888 do you own ?

Nothing.

What do you acquiesce to get along in order keep from causing trouble ?

I suppose that depends on my mood or state of mind--sometimes I do and sometimes I do cause trouble.

Do you make compromises ?

Certainly, I think it is necessary for many things in life

Why ?

Sometimes out of love, sometimes I do it because I will have a better outcome to compromise than if I decide to not compromise (selfish reasons). Some things no, I would never compromise on. It is nothing in stone, it's just dealing as best I can with what comes next. Being too stubborn usually leads me to unhappiness.

23 posted on 04/21/2014 8:24:36 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: stars & stripes forever

That’s cool, but I don’t see it happening that way.

What I see is the recognition of the end of human knowledge.

That will be the end.

To be honest, most of science has gone into the “Meta” world of possibility vs. that of reality.

The acknowledgement that our understanding “things” has run into a brick wall.

All of this is being deferred to our ability to rationalize everything but that of a Creator.

At some point, this will crash into God.

Currently we are either from God or aliens.

Evolutionary “theory” hardly makes a dent anymore.

The end of the world will come when it is realized that the only answer to our existence is that of our Creator.


24 posted on 04/21/2014 8:32:24 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Irenic

What the F888 do you own ?

Nothing.

What do you acquiesce to get along in order keep from causing trouble ?

I suppose that depends on my mood or state of mind—sometimes I do and sometimes I do cause trouble.


Soo, you do in fact OWN something ?


25 posted on 04/21/2014 8:39:40 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

My free will?


26 posted on 04/21/2014 8:43:06 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Irenic

My free will?


Awesome reply !!!!

I love it.

Does free will exist among the honest atheist ?


27 posted on 04/21/2014 8:47:14 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

Yes.


28 posted on 04/21/2014 8:47:59 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Irenic

No No,

The honest atheist will tell you that “Free will” is an illusion.

From Dawkins, Dennet, Sam Harris and William Provine.

I have contemplated the question of “free will” for many years. It’s at the heart of the debate.


29 posted on 04/21/2014 8:56:40 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

I’ll need to think on that one.


30 posted on 04/21/2014 8:59:41 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Zeneta

“That’s cool, but I don’t see it happening that way.”
The end is going to happen just as the Bible says it will. (By the way, Jesus is the Word. He is the Bible. It is a Living Book)

“Currently we are either from God or aliens.”

God is real. We have been created in His likeness and He loves us so much that He gave His Son, Jesus to die for our sins.

One day soon everything name will bow to the name of His Son, Jesus because He conquered death and sits at the right hand of God.


31 posted on 04/21/2014 9:10:35 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Zeneta

It’s The End Of The World
-by REM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

How the world will end.
(warning: bad language)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpjgl2baLs


32 posted on 04/21/2014 9:31:27 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Zeneta

It’s the end of the age, not the world.


33 posted on 04/21/2014 9:32:13 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: stars & stripes forever

One day soon everything name will bow to the name of His Son, Jesus because He conquered death and sits at the right hand of God.


I know.

But, when will they know ?

My contention is that they won’t know until they have exhausted all other possibilities.

God gave us the capacity to explore to the edge of his creation.

Some seem to think there is a “scientific” answer and they are now invoking unprovable theories.

“For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountain of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”

..Robert Jastrow.


34 posted on 04/21/2014 9:47:31 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I was thinking Elvis Costello.

But I could easily transition to The Doors.


35 posted on 04/21/2014 9:53:11 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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“That’s cool, but I don’t see it happening that way.

What I see is the recognition of the end of human knowledge.

That will be the end.

To be honest, most of science has gone into the “Meta” world of possibility vs. that of reality.

The acknowledgement that our understanding “things” has run into a brick wall.

All of this is being deferred to our ability to rationalize everything but that of a Creator.

At some point, this will crash into God.

Currently we are either from God or aliens.

Evolutionary “theory” hardly makes a dent anymore.

The end of the world will come when it is realized that the only answer to our existence is that of our Creator.”

Sounds like your having an existential crisis.


36 posted on 04/21/2014 10:03:41 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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To: Zeneta
The honest atheist will tell you that “Free will” is an illusion.

I guess they would. They lack faith and without faith it would seem but an illusion to them. But free will is there, they just refuse to reach for it.

God gave us ALL free will, I have faith and I want more than swimming around with my water wings in the shallows of the mind. I find everything with God.

Matthew 5:45

45 that ye may be the children of your Father who is in Heaven. For He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

37 posted on 04/21/2014 10:50:33 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Zeneta

Waiting for the end of the world?

Hell, I’m PRAYING for the end of the world.

What man rendered, even with the best of intentions, sucks.

I want God’s version.


38 posted on 04/21/2014 10:55:16 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: GeronL
The object of our focus should always invoke critical thinking and judgment (we've forgotten that this is the goal of a Liberal Arts education and not “Gender Studies for Underwater Basket Weaving in Ancient Mayan Civilization”).

We should always remain skeptical about the massive media, government dictates & advertising wave that carries millions along the stream of rubbish into the darkness of ignorance.

The late Physicist Dr. Carl Sagan once demonstrated (in his COSMOS 1980 show) that if we read a book, everyday for the average human lifespan, we will have really read but only a minuscule of nearly nothing regarding important knowledge that is out there, (and that was before the Internet era!). So, choose wisely what you read because there just isn't enough time to gain significant knowledge in this life. It's your choice, just like eating. We choose both kinds of nourishment we put into our bodies and minds.

Avoid the mass media and what it recommends we do what things posses value and how to live your life. Most folks are locked in and just flowing along. Was your ex-girlfriend one of those Grogs?

Carl Sagan was right in so many ways. Stay alert, your freedom depends on it.

39 posted on 04/21/2014 11:34:10 PM PDT by Netz
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To: Irenic

“...isn’t that indifference?”

I don’t know...and.., I don’t care!


40 posted on 04/22/2014 3:38:29 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: All

The end of the World as we know it will happen for everyone. . . for some it could be within the hour or for others however many days. . years from now. The main thing is to be ready to meet Jesus. Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. . .My prayer is that everyone will decide to Choose life. . .choose Jesus. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. He shed His Blood on the Cross and died for everyone of us, bore our sins (all of them) that we would have Eternal Life in Heaven. Just believe in Jesus and tell others you do.

May God Bless!


41 posted on 04/22/2014 5:50:59 AM PDT by Maudeen ("I'm just a sinner . . . saved by Grace.")
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To: ourworldawry
Sounds like your having an existential crisis Not so much mine.

More a "cultural" existential crisis.

And they don't even know it.

Or care.

While individually, we may be able to extract a foundational belief system from the average left leaning zombie that will actually take the time and be thoughtful enough to recognize their personal contradictions.

The peer pressure to get along in their work and to not be seen as crazy is more powerful than that of holding their ground. The ground of objective morality. Individually, they do own this ground, but collectively, they are either afraid or to lazy to say so.

This is what the left exploits.

Politically, we are living in two different realities.

We have one political class, the left, that is convinced that everything is "Subjective", "Relative" and have embraced "uncertainty" as the only thing we can be "certain" of. The right, sees things "Objectively" we can "judge" what is morally "right or wrong", and understand the flaws in "human nature".

While the left embraces those flaws, as being not flaws but as being inevitable, they reject those that would both judge or forgive those flaws as persons that are "closed minded", "Hateful" or arrogant.

Make no mistake, the left hates us.

We think they are misguided, they think we are evil.

They believe we are evil because we ask the questions that require them to define right and wrong.

Individually we are the majority. Collectively, we are the minority.

42 posted on 04/23/2014 12:56:12 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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