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Ranking The Most "Real" American Automobiles
Toronto Sun ^ | Apr 22, 2014 | Jeff Voth

Posted on 04/22/2014 4:13:47 PM PDT by rickmichaels

The Kogod "Made in America" Auto Index may not be on your radar when comparing vehicles. In today’s market, building new vehicles is a global undertaking for all automakers, including those who call North America home.

That said, "built in America" still resonates with many people. Understanding that this is an important factor to some people, the Kogod index uses a unique evaluation process to determine how much domestic (North American) content is present in vehicles sold in the United States. A win here can mean a feather in the cap for some, specifically the Detroit "big three."

"This index provides the public with a more accurate reflection of the true country of origin of a car and the impact of its purchase on the US economy," said Associate Professor Frank DuBois, the index's author and an expert in global supply chains.

"And hopefully, it holds vehicle manufacturers accountable for the claims they make in marketing to U.S. consumers."

The vehicles to top the 2014 Kogod Made in America list are:

- Ford F-Series (score: 87.5 out of 100)

- Chevrolet Corvette (87.5)

- Buick Enclave(86)

- Chevrolet Traverse(86)

- GMC Acadia (86)

- GMC Acadia Denali (86)

The first Made in America Auto Index occurred in 2013, with the Acadia, Enclave, and Traverse each finishing tied at the top of the list with a score of 88.5.

The top 21 vehicles, in fact, are all either GM (18) or Ford (three) models, and a non-North American vehicle doesn't enter the list until 29 (Honda Odyssey).

A total of seven individual criteria are considered when calculating the index. This includes profit margin (6%), labour (6%), location of R&D activities (6%), assembly location (11%), engine and transmission production location (14% and 7%, respectively), plus where the body, chassis and electrical components are manufactured (50%). Canada and U.S. content is not differentiated, but calculated together for the final results.


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1 posted on 04/22/2014 4:13:47 PM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels

I’d put up my old 57 Chevy 210 (or a Belair model), against them all. Can any of these get 8 girls in them, plus the driver, a feat I did in 1962? If not, then the 57 Chevy wins hands down.


2 posted on 04/22/2014 4:16:19 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: rickmichaels

Any government motors car built by unionists and subsidized by taxpayers is NOT my idea of an American car.


3 posted on 04/22/2014 4:18:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I just fired Government Motors.

I sold my Chevy 2009 Silverado after the second door handle came off in my hand, just opening the door. That cost me $300.00 to replace. The first one to come off was when the truck was still under factory warranty.

After I sold the Chevy, I went out and bought a FORD Taurus Limited.


4 posted on 04/22/2014 4:21:12 PM PDT by Howie66 ("Tone down the tagline please." - Admin Moderator)
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To: rickmichaels

Very subjective .....................

........ when calculating the index. This includes:

- profit margin (6%)
- labour (6%)
- location of R&D activities (6%)
- assembly location (11%),
- engine and transmission production location
- (14% and 7%, respectively), plus where the body, chassis and electrical components are manufactured (50%). Canada and U.S. content is not differentiated, but calculated together for the final results.


I could probably come out with a formula that looks a lot different. Besides, I will not buy a GM union made automobile.


5 posted on 04/22/2014 4:21:49 PM PDT by boycott
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To: rickmichaels
Since 1992 I've refused to buy a car made with UAW labor because the UAW's leadership are Communists...it's that simple.According to the sticker my current car was assembled in Germany,both the engine and transmission were made in Germany,65% of the parts were made in Germany and 5% were made in the US/Canada.

When the UAW stops electing Maoists to their leadership I'll reconsider buying Ford,GM and Chrysler.Not before.

6 posted on 04/22/2014 4:22:22 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
I'll see your Chebby and raise you my '51 Stude. ;-)


7 posted on 04/22/2014 4:25:47 PM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: rickmichaels

Also, how about showing us the rest of the list?

And these three are very much the same vehicle:

- Buick Enclave(86)

- Chevrolet Traverse(86)

- GMC Acadia (86)

Lame.


8 posted on 04/22/2014 4:26:53 PM PDT by boycott
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To: uglybiker

Nice! Does it have the push-button automatic tranny?


9 posted on 04/22/2014 4:27:36 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: uglybiker

http://www.studebakermuseum.org/


10 posted on 04/22/2014 4:30:19 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: boycott
Canada and U.S. content is not differentiated, but calculated together for the final results.

Well this is from the "Toronto Sun". They are considering North American content the same as American. Though, I realize some on FR would beg to differ.

11 posted on 04/22/2014 4:30:54 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: rickmichaels

I have owned probably 30-40 cars in my life but the one which really stands out and by a long way is my 65 Olds Delta 88. It had a 425 370 HP and just ran and ran and ran.

I see reports on modern cars and am amazed that they can get 500 HP out of something like a 2.4 liter engine but that just has to stress things too much.

That old 65 Olds would cruise effortlessly on interstate at 80mph. It would do it all day long too. There are and were faster cars but 370hp is power enough for just about any normal use.

Probably the most surprising thing about it was how nimble it was despite having a large heavy body.


12 posted on 04/22/2014 4:32:02 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: tacticalogic
Mopar and Ford had the push buttons. And only Chrysler's worked. And those didn't show up until the late 50's.

My Champion has the good ol' 3 on-the-tree with overdrive.

13 posted on 04/22/2014 4:33:20 PM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: uglybiker

Now, if you were talking about a Silverhawk, then I’d listen. The early Studebakers were butt and front ugly, like Helen Thomas on steroids.

The Lark was just a cigarette pack wrapper on wheels.

The ugliest car was about a 1949 Hudson. My neighbor had a brown one that looked like a giant roach. We used to go out and spray it with a Flit can just to make sure it wasn’t alive.

Another neighbor had a 56 White T Bird, a 57 Pink T Bird and one other car.

They just don’t make them like they used to.

Sorry about your 51 Studebaker. Hope it had a nice funeral.


14 posted on 04/22/2014 4:35:15 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Those old Hudsons were absolute tanks.
I remember as a kid watching them run the local stock car races.
They had the “twin H-power” 6-cyl engine.


15 posted on 04/22/2014 4:37:12 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: BfloGuy

Agree.

And they only listed six vehicles while three of them are basically the same:

- Buick Enclave(86)
- Chevrolet Traverse(86)
- GMC Acadia (86)

Other than the name plate on each, these three are basically the same.


16 posted on 04/22/2014 4:39:41 PM PDT by boycott
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To: rickmichaels
I'd consider a Ford if I needed a truck.

None of the others - for any reason whatsoever.

17 posted on 04/22/2014 4:41:12 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: yarddog

18 posted on 04/22/2014 4:42:23 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: boycott

Here’s the listing. It two extra clicks....

http://kogodnow.com/autoindex/


19 posted on 04/22/2014 4:42:32 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: uglybiker

I distinctly remember my grandfather’s Desoto having a cluster of push buttons on the dash, and a little lever below them for Park.


20 posted on 04/22/2014 4:44:42 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Would your Chevy withstand 10 years of northern Michigan winters and its salt laden highways without rusting out?.......

Nope.....

21 posted on 04/22/2014 4:44:47 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: SkyPilot

That is it except mine was a four door sedan.


22 posted on 04/22/2014 4:45:12 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: boycott

And what’s profit margin got to do with it?


23 posted on 04/22/2014 4:46:51 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Sorry about your 51 Studebaker. Hope it had a nice funeral.

Huh?

24 posted on 04/22/2014 4:47:30 PM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: nascarnation

Again, this is a very flawed formula.

They’re awarding Chrysler 6% for profit margin. Didn’t the US government take Chrysler away from its rightful owners and give it to Fiat? Fiat certainly isn’t an American company.


25 posted on 04/22/2014 4:48:26 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I assume the calculation includes where the profits wind up.
It could be quite a challenge to do that since most of these companies are publicly traded and have shareholders worldwide.


26 posted on 04/22/2014 4:50:53 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

And what’s profit margin got to do with it?


Good question. Someone linked below a more detailed list. They’re giving Chrysler 6% for profit margin. Didn’t our US government give Chrysler to Fiat?

http://kogodnow.com/autoindex/


27 posted on 04/22/2014 4:52:15 PM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott

Like I say in post 26 that may be a difficult calculation.
Fiat is publicly traded and has shareholders worldwide.


28 posted on 04/22/2014 4:53:08 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: SkyPilot

I remember driving that old 65 from North Carolina to Oklahoma with my girlfriend, (later my wife) and her best friend. We had the huge trunk full as well as the back seat stacked to the roof with just enough room for a passenger.

After driving for 7 or 8 hours, I let her friend take over driving while I napped. After a couple of hours I awoke to see the speedometer at 90 and it was raining. I was instantly wide awake and told her to pull over and I would drive the rest of the way.


29 posted on 04/22/2014 4:55:31 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

bias ply tires
drum brakes

somehow we survived, LOL


30 posted on 04/22/2014 4:57:02 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: BfloGuy

The trouble is, if you don’t consider “North American” as the standard, and only look at U.S. content, the order will look very different with models from companies with U.S. management teams sinking and models from companies with Japanese and German management teams rising. I’m not sure by how much. It would be interesting to compare a U.S. content listing with a North-American content listing if one could find both such listings using the same methodology in defining content percentages.


31 posted on 04/22/2014 4:59:09 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Was yours a four door? My ‘55 model 210 is and I can get the whole damn family plus an in-law or 2 in it.

CC


32 posted on 04/22/2014 5:00:10 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: nascarnation

The odds were against us but like you say, somehow we made it.


33 posted on 04/22/2014 5:01:44 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog
Lol.

Look at this one for sale.

I remember watching that old TV series "The Streets of San Francisco" and they always seemed to have the Olds 88 on the show.

34 posted on 04/22/2014 5:10:55 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

” Can any of these get 8 girls in them”

One more and you could have played a round of golf.


35 posted on 04/22/2014 5:11:06 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: rickmichaels

Government Motors cars are not American.


36 posted on 04/22/2014 5:17:58 PM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: uglybiker

I was always happy with my 63 GTHAWK, R1, Power Shift, Twin Traction. Hunted down and ate Mustangs when I was in high school. When they caught up me at the light they always asked “what kind of car is that?”


37 posted on 04/22/2014 5:23:51 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

VW is more American. At least the socialist union you fund are in Germany , not here.


38 posted on 04/22/2014 6:10:12 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Mastador1

My Champion is just the opposite. Little flathead 6 barely has enough power to get out of its own way.


39 posted on 04/22/2014 6:20:46 PM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: IMR 4350

I was taking them, and the other 7 in the car behind, to a bowling alley in Pikesville, Md. My neighbor was the president of a sorority chapter that was hosting another chapter from NY.

Of course I offered my services to them re transportation etc. Somewhere I have photos to prove it.

Timing is everything!


40 posted on 04/22/2014 6:21:23 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Celtic Conservative

4 door, of course. Green body, yellow back fin section (damaged during painting in Detriot so they replaced the original green paint with yellow, making our car unique).
145 HP plus a hidden, stomp-down overdrive that drove people who raced me, crazy.

Only lost to a 57 Belair with 3 duces. Out-horsed by about 100+ HP. Black with all aluminum chrome siding.

All we needed were skirts and baby moons to be even cooler.

Now, my mother got a 1972 Chevy Nova as a gift from my father to replace an older car. I know you’ve heard of the little old lady from Pasadena. Well, my mother was the not-so-old little lady from Baltimore because we discovered that the Nova didn’t have small 6 or even small 8.

Someone had put in a racing engine, probably running 286 HP or more. It could beat a jet, and sure left a lot of other cars still sitting on their asses when the traffic lights turned green.

Feel the power! Ah, those were the days, when cars were real cars, men were men, and women liked it that way.


41 posted on 04/22/2014 6:28:05 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Hot Tabasco

To #21> That’s what our garage was for, to protect the car.

We had some snow and some salt but that is also why we lived in Baltimore and didn’t have to put up with your northern car-killing winters.

Plus we had the Baltimore Colts (champions) and the Baltimore Orioles, Johnny Unitas, Goetzes candy, real Maryland crab cakes, and the Buddy Dean Show.


42 posted on 04/22/2014 6:31:45 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: rickmichaels

I drive an Enclave. It’s a great car.


43 posted on 04/22/2014 6:33:01 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: rickmichaels

No Packards? What the hell kind of list is this?


44 posted on 04/22/2014 6:34:30 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: tacticalogic

DeSoto was owned and manufactured by Chrysler.


45 posted on 04/22/2014 6:35:07 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: uglybiker

Most Studebakers today are kept as antiques which I assume your’s is. I see one or two around during the summer car shows in Virginia and Maryland, including the white Silverhawk model.

I once found the front grill of a 56 Desoto in a stream in Great Falls, Md, while we were panning for gold. For all I know, it is still there. We didn’t have American Pickers around to sell stuff like that to.


46 posted on 04/22/2014 6:35:25 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

As an Indiana resident who had (against my will) helped make the Irsays insanely wealthy, I’d LOVE to send the Colts back.


47 posted on 04/22/2014 6:36:13 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: rickmichaels

I think most of the replies here are misunderstanding the use of the word “real.” They’re ranking recently manufactured vehicles on North American content and profit margin retained in North America. Nothing else, it really doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not the vehicles are appealing.


48 posted on 04/22/2014 6:40:59 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: yarddog
Probably the most surprising thing about it was how nimble it was despite having a large heavy body.

I've known some women like that.

49 posted on 04/22/2014 6:48:02 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rickmichaels

Honorable Mention

1966 Mercury Station Wagon 429 cu in 4BBL Holley

Loaded with college kids, that wagon *beat* a 1969 Camaro SS 396 cu in Rochester QuadraJet

In a 5 mile straight run along an old route in the midwest.

The Mercury wagon’s 429 engine mounts broke under the strain.

I don’t believe that I ever explained the specifics to my parents, only that, I mentioned to them that a strange sound would come from the engine compartment whenever I tried to get the car to go faster than 55 mph.

That, turned out to be the metal, belt-driven cooling fan ... meeting up with the back side of the radiator, as the engine would surge forward, un-checked by the formerly-working engine mounts.

In another match, demonstrating how young and stupid a kid can be, I again raced that Camaro SS ... but this time, in at least 1 ft of fresh snow, and using “my” 1966 Ford Thunderbird 428 cu in 4BBL Holley.

It was dangerous but a beautiful thing, as the moon was out, and in the rear view mirror the snow wake trailed.

The snow made the ride very quiet though the engine firmly kept the pace.

It was a not-so-straight run that time, north to south, about 8 miles over country roads in the same area of the midwest.

Great cars.


50 posted on 04/22/2014 6:49:41 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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