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'Militia' groups fear infiltration by feds at Bundy Ranch
KLAS-TV Las Vegas ^ | 04/22/2014 | Lauren Rozyla

Posted on 04/23/2014 10:59:33 AM PDT by Rusty0604

Former Bundy guard Frank Lindysthe says it is all very troubling.

"They are now calling for militia. They're not in dug in positions, they are sitting on top of ridges. They don't have night vision capability," he said.

Lindysthe left the ranch in the middle of the night after at least two men tried joining the guard. He said the men made him uncomfortable.

"The people that are up there, they have a certain look about them. These are military. My belief is federal agents," he said.

Lindysthe feels the alleged federal agents are there to gather information on militia members and eventually conduct a raid.

"They're dirty. They're dirty," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at 8newsnow.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; fedmob

1 posted on 04/23/2014 10:59:33 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

The next phase.


2 posted on 04/23/2014 11:00:24 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Rusty0604

Oh yeah, the feds have infiltrated. They are going through their trash, they are just waiting to pounce.


3 posted on 04/23/2014 11:02:03 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Rusty0604
Psych OPS ??
Designed to start fireing weapons and 'create an incident' ?
Not unheard of with this administration !!
Personally , .. I would muster them out !!
4 posted on 04/23/2014 11:04:24 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Putin tactics.


5 posted on 04/23/2014 11:05:06 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Rusty0604

Could be a listen closely moment, Patriots. Don’t Live Too Fast. Find Love!!! Don’t forget, there is Someone up above.


6 posted on 04/23/2014 11:05:12 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Rusty0604

Trust this Prosecutor when I say ... groups like these have been infiltrated for YEARS. Saying “next” is like saying “science will next invent the wheel”. That’s been done so long ago no one is exactly sure when.


7 posted on 04/23/2014 11:06:18 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Rusty0604

Are the feds infiltrating the ROP terrorist training camps throughout the USA?


8 posted on 04/23/2014 11:08:28 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Ask me what I think.)
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To: Rusty0604

Don’t forget this from yesterday:

***Harry Reid: “Something Will Happen” To Stop Rancher Cliven Bundy***

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3147465/posts


9 posted on 04/23/2014 11:09:34 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed "Elderly Kooky Type" Catholic Texan)
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To: Rusty0604

A question: where does the line get drawn between ‘heightened sense of alertness’ and ‘paranoia’? Can you really say someone has “that look” as a means of exclusion?

I know...it’s frustrating that we even have to discuss this because of our federal government.


10 posted on 04/23/2014 11:09:37 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Rusty0604

Stay close Patriots! Stay close! No more being fooled, Never!!!


11 posted on 04/23/2014 11:12:38 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Rusty0604
'Militia' groups fear infiltration by feds at Bundy Ranch

Leftists in the 60s used to joke that the member most eager to blow something up was usually the FBI infiltrator.

12 posted on 04/23/2014 11:14:07 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: hoagy62
hoagy62:" I know...it’s frustrating that we even have to discuss this because of our federal government."

Correction :
I know...it’s frustrating that we even have to discuss this because of our feral government."
With this administrations domestic policy
WIth this administrations foreign policy
With this administrations willingness to follow the Constitution
With this administrations executing existing laws With this administrations job developement policy
Would you expect anything less ... ??

13 posted on 04/23/2014 11:18:08 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I no longer can recognize the USA. It’s now not much different then the USSR. It will take a civil war to bring back America’s freedom and democracy.


14 posted on 04/23/2014 11:18:26 AM PDT by Vinylly (?)
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To: RIghtwardHo

You are right. I’ve been around, I mean I’ve read about militias for some decades now and this is nothing new.

“Randy Weaver was a typical American dad. He had a loving family, including his wife Vicky, one son named Sam and three daughters including a ten-month old baby. Like millions of other Americans, they were simple people who just wanted to be left alone. The family lived in a beautiful rural Idaho area called Ruby Ridge. For 18 months, various federal police agencies repeatedly intimidated Randy in an attempt to get him to work as an infiltrator for them to spy on the slew of religious, racial or separatist organizations popping up all over the American northwest.

Weaver repeatedly declined. He’d been to some of those gun shows and events out of curiosity if nothing else. While he was a typical proud white, Christian, husband, father and American, he was simply rubbed the wrong way by those organizations and didn’t associate with them. That was probably one of the main reasons the FBI, BATF and US Marshals continued to pursue him as a hired spy. When Weaver continued to refuse, the agents suddenly turned their fury on him and his family.

First, they convinced him to customize a shotgun into a sawed-off shotgun, not illegal and a typical thing many gun owners do. But federal agents confiscated the gun and determined the barrel was one-quarter of an inch too short, and thus illegal”

http://www.rubyridge.org/


15 posted on 04/23/2014 11:20:28 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: KarlInOhio

Bill Ayers was an FBI agent?


16 posted on 04/23/2014 11:20:37 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Rusty0604

It’s apparent that the left considers “just wanting to be left alone” to be a capital crime.


17 posted on 04/23/2014 11:22:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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bookmark


18 posted on 04/23/2014 11:26:02 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Correction noted...and yep.


19 posted on 04/23/2014 11:35:53 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Rusty0604

Sad, pathetic, and sick tactics by our guv’t. Don’t let them in...you’re lives depend on it!


20 posted on 04/23/2014 11:40:44 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: MrB

Just like the woman that recently was forced to hook up to city water even though she didn’t need it. They can’t have anyone living off the grid. It is considered suspicious activity now to pay with cash.


21 posted on 04/23/2014 11:41:19 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: I want the USA back

> Are the feds infiltrating the ROP terrorist training camps
> throughout the USA?

No.

They’re on the same side.


22 posted on 04/23/2014 11:44:25 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Rusty0604

Why is this man telling us about it, when those whom he suspected should have been ‘more thoroughly checked’ by his peers, or silenced where they sat?

Infiltrators are nothing more than traitors, in my eyes.


23 posted on 04/23/2014 12:02:42 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Rusty0604

Even scarier would be if they are there to start the fight and make it look like the patriots fired the first shot. It happened at the Boston massacre.


24 posted on 04/23/2014 12:12:30 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: All
We have infiltrators, and spys right here. No doubt in my Military mind. Posing as everyday Freepers, be aware, an watch your back, and stay Prayerful, He is the one who looks on the Heart of all mankind. We just choose to call them trolls
25 posted on 04/23/2014 12:21:08 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Terry L Smith

I bet there’s an infiltrator on this very thread, hijacking a real FReeper’s identity. Everyone that has posted anything here, make sure it is your post!


26 posted on 04/23/2014 12:24:47 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: All

Buy a polygraph machine. Get some training. Poly all militia members every couple of years or so.

If they show deception or have ambiguous results do not allow them to join. That means booting some folks who just don’t poly well and it isn’t 100% - but it would eliminate most of the problem. Background investigations and other types of vetting can fill in the gaps.

Once you have a solid core then you start recruiting members who have access to various databases and communications networks. You reverse infiltrate. Set up your own secure communications networks. Structure your organization into military and political cadres. There are plenty of good communist manuals that cover these subjects.

You play the intelligence game. The big issue is that all of this takes serious money. But it isn’t rocket science.

Makes me sick that it has come to this.


27 posted on 04/23/2014 12:53:03 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: Rusty0604

Who’s watching your post...hmmm?


28 posted on 04/23/2014 12:58:46 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Terry L Smith

I’m skeptical about this guy’s report. I would bet a good deal of money that they are vetting thiese volunteers pretty closely before letting them on and around the ranch with weapons. Half the guys in the militias are former military.


29 posted on 04/23/2014 1:07:45 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Rusty0604

I think the only way to prevent infiltration is by forming independent sleeper cells that are unknown to others, with limited membership in each cell consisting of people you have personally known for years. Although decentralized, some triggering event will be serious enough to activate cell response.


30 posted on 04/23/2014 1:09:39 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: null and void

ping


31 posted on 04/23/2014 1:33:33 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604; Travis McGee

Like something right out of “Enemies Foreign and Domestic”.


32 posted on 04/23/2014 1:33:53 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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To: Rusty0604
It's virtually certain that the Bundy Ranch is a seething cauldron of infiltration. And it's also nearly certain there are listening devices and GPS devices throughout.

Rest assured that all cell phones are tapped at all times, every word and text. Same with all landline connectivity.

DHS most probably has snipers on rotation in the hills as well.

I don't see how this can turn out well for the defenders UNLESS they can ID an infiltrator and make him talk. And, that's likely to trigger the assault.

33 posted on 04/23/2014 2:00:39 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Vinylly
I no longer can recognize the USA. It’s now not much different then the USSR. It will take a civil war to bring back America’s freedom and democracy.

Well, I think that is what a lot of this is about.

You don't send a swat team to confiscate some old man's cattle. This is a civil matter, he is not a criminal. This kind of abuse has to stop at some point.

34 posted on 04/23/2014 2:53:51 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Rusty0604
I've been to militia meetings where the agent provocateurs almost outnumbered the legitimate participants,
35 posted on 04/23/2014 4:56:37 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Rusty0604

This may be a story to sow seeds of doubt.


36 posted on 04/23/2014 5:40:52 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Rusty0604
They may be there to agitate. The problem with the last time was that nobody on Bundy's side brought guns, only cellphones.

This time, the feds need an inside plant to fire the first round, so they can justify firing back.

-PJ

37 posted on 04/23/2014 5:44:22 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Rusty0604
One would hope that the Bundy family knows all the regulars in the area, having been there for generations.

Now would be the time to keep strangers out, and only stick to those you know.

-PJ

38 posted on 04/23/2014 5:46:24 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

yep.


39 posted on 04/23/2014 5:55:52 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Dear GG2,

I agree with your statements.

I also am former military, and anybody who did not know the latest q and a, were immediately under intense scrutiny.

(q and a, baseball, football, car races, etc.)


40 posted on 04/23/2014 7:55:04 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Rusty0604

That’s a little harder to do, these days.


41 posted on 04/23/2014 7:56:39 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Rusty0604

I don’t have any secrets, all I say and do is right out in front of God and everybody else.


42 posted on 04/24/2014 11:42:22 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Rusty0604
First, they convinced him to customize a shotgun into a sawed-off shotgun...federal agents confiscated the gun and determined the barrel was one-quarter of an inch too short, and thus illegal”

"They" in this case was a BATF under cover individual who took two years to befriend Weaver. Living with and staying with the Weavers up in the mountains there in northern Idaho.

Weaver thought the guy was his friend and that year Weaver needed a little extra money for his family. He did not want to do this, he wanted to keep his shotgun, but since he needed some money and since he felt he could trust this individual he did so and cut the barrel where his "friend" indicated he wanted it cut.

The guy knew exactly what he was doing and knew that cut was too short and would make it illegal. it was the entire purpose of their "sting," on Weaver.

When the individual then revealed who he was working for, and asked again for Weaver to infiltrate said extremist groups but now using the threat of a crime to try and coerce Weaver, Weaver told him to go straight to hell and walked away.

We know what happened next.

The Federal Fiasco and Murder at Ruby Ridge

I was there at Ruby Ridge by Bo Grits

You will pay for this some Day by Claire Wolfe

43 posted on 04/25/2014 6:54:03 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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