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Up Close on Baseballís Borders
The New York Times ^ | APRIL 24, 2014 | TOM GIRATIKANON, JOSH KATZ, DAVID LEONHARDT and KEVIN QUEALY

Posted on 04/25/2014 4:36:22 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican


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1 posted on 04/25/2014 4:36:22 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Padres seem to have a small footprint and even in their home market, it’s under 50%.


2 posted on 04/25/2014 4:41:22 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: MinorityRepublican
hehe

Hard to believe it's already been posted. But here's baseball's "blackout" map.


3 posted on 04/25/2014 4:43:54 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: re_nortex

Well, at least the Padres HAVE a footprint. The Mets don’t even merit a toe print.


4 posted on 04/25/2014 4:45:54 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: MinorityRepublican
Here's an interesting play you don't see every day. Tiger's catcher gets credit for an unassisted double play. Batter called out then interferes with the throw to second. (Runner called out on batter interference)

Controversial interference call leads to odd ending between Detroit Tigers-Chicago White Sox (video)

Video
5 posted on 04/25/2014 4:47:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

No A’s, Mets or White Sox.

No Blue Jays.

This was around for a while. NY Times regurgitates.


6 posted on 04/25/2014 4:47:21 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: MinorityRepublican

I don’t see the Toronto Blue Jays here. They are in upstate New York right?


7 posted on 04/25/2014 4:47:41 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

Ontario is pretty well divided between Tigers and Blue Jay fans.


8 posted on 04/25/2014 4:52:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SamAdams76
I don't know if you are joking but the Blue Jays are nothing in Buffalo. It's Yankee territory with a few Red Sox contrarians who hate the Yanks.
9 posted on 04/25/2014 4:52:41 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: MinorityRepublican

Why the hell are there so many Yankees fans in Louisiana?


10 posted on 04/25/2014 5:02:44 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Monmouth78

Radio only had Yankees games on back in the ‘ole days. Braves were still in Milwaukee at that time.


11 posted on 04/25/2014 5:24:55 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Monmouth78
Why the hell are there so many Yankees fans in Louisiana?

Well, somebody has to keep rotating the bodies...
12 posted on 04/25/2014 5:29:45 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Monmouth78

Yankees seem to be the favorite team of places without obvious geographical loyalties, or maybe especially areas with no radio or television coverage of a team: Central Nebraska, Montana, Oklahoma, etc.

Be aware that this is based on Facebook followers, not necessarily actual fans. Lots of young black folks in Louisiana might dream of New York, for example.


13 posted on 04/25/2014 5:36:43 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Let’s have a survey of which teams receive the most national TV coverage. That will explain the popularity of the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers in “unexpected” places.


14 posted on 04/25/2014 6:04:08 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Misterioso

Sure. Media coverage makes a huge difference. That’s why baseball’s blackout rules are so idiotic. Bud Selig is a Yankees butt boy.


15 posted on 04/25/2014 6:11:48 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto
In 5 years I have not known a Giants game to be blacked out.

CSNBA carries about 145 games/yr, other stations carry another 10 or so.

The remainder were never purchased by a network.

16 posted on 04/25/2014 6:14:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I’m not sure you understand what baseball blackouts are.


17 posted on 04/25/2014 6:18:04 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

What are they?


18 posted on 04/25/2014 6:19:36 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mlb’s-blackout-problem-keeps-sport-in-dark-ages.html


19 posted on 04/25/2014 6:28:34 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Tell me?


20 posted on 04/25/2014 6:31:51 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Radio only had Yankees games on back in the ‘ole days. Braves were still in Milwaukee at that time.”.

What are you talking about? In the old days The Braves were in Boston.

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21 posted on 04/25/2014 6:43:22 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mariner

If you live in someplace like Las Vegas, Hawaii, or Iowa, six teams claim you as their territory. Other areas have fewer but still annoying team claims.

That means unless your television provider carries those teams’ home broadcasts, you can’t watch them, not even if you spend $200 on MLB’s Extra Innings cable/sat package or $130 on mlb.tv’s on-line package. ‘National’ broadcasts, like on ESPN or the MLB cable/sat channels, are blacked out for your location too.

By contrast, the NFL only blacks out games within 75 miles of the stadium, and only if they’re not sold out.


22 posted on 04/25/2014 6:54:17 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto
So, if you live in an "assigned" team area, you cannot subscribe to a cable channel that carries the team you want to see?

How about MLB.Com? Can't you get anything you want?

23 posted on 04/25/2014 7:30:43 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mears
In the old days The Braves were in Boston.

I'm so old, I still can't wrap my mind around that American League team in New York being called anything other than the Highlanders. :)


24 posted on 04/25/2014 10:14:21 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Mariner

I’m in Dallas, have MLB.tv, and cannot watch any Houston game. They are not broadcast up here, and I understand it is difficult to watch their games even in Houston, since they lost their affiliate after the 2012 season. It makes no sense.

Why would I want to watch Houston? Well, if they’re playing a division rival, I’d like to see them on the very off chance they’ll pull off a win against them.


25 posted on 04/25/2014 10:46:24 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: re_nortex

I never heard of The Highlanders.

Learn something every day.

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26 posted on 04/26/2014 6:38:02 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Mariner

No.

The idea is that consumers should pressure a local television provider (including cable and sat) to add ‘home’ team network broadcasts to their packages.

There are workarounds either illegal or designed for commercial use like bars rather than individual consumers.

The result (by design) is that teams like the Yankees get the most exposure. The Cubs and Braves aren’t even accessible as they once were.


27 posted on 04/26/2014 6:47:35 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think there’s a pixel there for the A’s.


28 posted on 04/26/2014 6:50:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jjotto
"The idea is that consumers should pressure a local television provider (including cable and sat) to add ‘home’ team network broadcasts to their packages."

That's not the problem I have living 100 miles from SF and having all but a handful of games televised locally.

I do remember living in the Seattle area and only having about 70% of Mariners games on the TV, but with Dave Niehouse on the radio, nobody cared:)

29 posted on 04/26/2014 9:19:45 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Right. If you live close enough, the local market will carry more-or-less local home team broadcasts, even if just on the radio. Teams are shrinking broadcast radio coverage, though.

Go out, say, 200 miles from the team, and the fan base isn’t big enough to support picking up the home team network broadcasts. But MLB blacks out that team’s games from sat, cable, and internet anyway, even though those games are otherwise available nationwide. Can’t watch even if you’re willing to pay more.

Worst case is probably Hawaii, which is a 5,000 mile round trip to catch the Dodgers, but matters not to MLB; blackout rules apply in Hawaii. Can’t watch the Dodgers unless local providers pick up home team network broadcasts.

Those in a realistic market area usually have no idea.


30 posted on 04/26/2014 10:05:54 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto
I get it.

If you live in Reno you're not likely to see the Giant covered locally, and MLB won't let you buy it via other means.

That sucks right there.

31 posted on 04/26/2014 10:59:07 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: jjotto

I guess the best you can do is to find the resident radio affiliate associated with your favorite team, and pipe the coverage in via the internet off their website.


32 posted on 04/26/2014 11:04:26 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Used to do that, but MLB has cracked down on that too. Still might be worth a try with very small radio stations that carry a team’s broadcasts. They might be automated with programming slipping through.


33 posted on 04/26/2014 11:12:06 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Mariner

I should point out for those who might not know that MLB has Gameday Audio. For $20 you can listen on-line to almost every game, either home or away broadcast. Great chance to compare announcers.


34 posted on 04/26/2014 11:19:41 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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