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Pizza Guy Shot By Philly Cops Is ‘Great Neighbor’ Who Works Two Jobs
New York Daily News ^ | Thursday, April 24, 2014 | Philip Caufield

Posted on 04/26/2014 2:14:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Philippe Holland was described by neighbors as a friendly, hardworking young man who held two jobs, including the pizza delivery gig. Court records showed he was arrested last week for simple assault for chucking a cellphone at his girlfriend.

A pizza delivery guy who was shot by two plainclothes Philadelphia cops was working two jobs to put himself through school and a kind, considerate neighbor, people who know him said.

"He was a great neighbor, I love that … you couldn't ask for a nicer neighbor," Roy Taylor, who lived on shooting victim Philippe Holland's block in Upper Darby, Pa., told CBS Philly.

Another neighbor, Christine Harris, told the station Holland was quick with a smile and a wave hello.

"He's always trying to have conversations with people on the block, always trying to have block parties," Harris said.

He did, however, have a police record and was out on bail at the time of the shooting, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported

Upper Darby police said Holland was arrested last week for simple assault for allegedly chucking a cellphone at his girlfriend during an argument. The woman was hit, but not seriously hurt.

The 20-year-old remained in critical condition at University of Pennsylvania Hospital Thursday after cops shot him in the head, neck and leg during a chilling encounter in West Philadelphia on Tuesday night.

20-year-old Philippe Holland is in critical condition after he was shot by plain-clothed police who were responding to reports of shots fired in the area. Holland was delivery a hamburger when he was approached.

The officers were responding to reports of gunshots in the West Philly neighborhood when they tried to stop Holland for questioning, police said.

The hardworking young delivery man had made his last delivery of the night — a cheeseburger meal to a house in the Kingsessing neighborhood — and was walking to his car when the plainclothes pair identified themselves and tried to stop him.

They were checking on reports of gunshots in the area and spotted Holland walking with his hands in his pockets and his hood up, police said.

Holland may not have heard them or was afraid the men were muggers when he got into his gold Ford Taurus and drove off, police said.

As the car sped toward them, the officers opened fire, blasting at least 14 shots and striking Holland three times. Philadelphia Police Chief Charles Ramsey told the Inquirer he visited the gravely wounded young man in the hospital Wednesday.

The round that hit him in the head damaged his eyesight, though it was unclear if the injury would be permanent, the newspaper reported.

20-year-old Philippe Holland is in critical condition after he was shot by plain-clothed police who were responding to reports of shots fired in the area. Holland was delivery a hamburger when he was approached.

The cops opened fire on Holland's Ford Taurus after he pulled out of his parking space and sped toward them. Police have said he may have thought the men were trying to mug him.

Ramsey told the newspaper the officers who shot him "feel terrible.

"It's just unfortunate all around and we're just praying that this young man is able to fully recover,"

"This is a young man who has two jobs" and a good family, Ramsey told the newspaper.

In addition delivering food for Upper Darby pizza parlor Slices and More, Ramsey worked as a baggage handler for Philadelphia International Airport, CBS Philly reported.

His boss at the pizza shop called him a model employee, a "nice, clean young guy."

"He came into work early, never said no to anything," Tony Spirokostas told the station.

The two officers have not been identified.

One of them was a five-year veteran, while the other was on the force for about a year, police said. Both have been placed on desk duty while internal affairs units investigated the shooting.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food
KEYWORDS: confrontationwatch; donutwatch; feos; lawenforcement; philadelphia; shooting

1 posted on 04/26/2014 2:14:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Well at least the armed city thugs feel bad...


2 posted on 04/26/2014 2:18:57 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: nickcarraway

Dammit! We said NO Anchovies . . .


3 posted on 04/26/2014 2:18:57 PM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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To: nickcarraway

Must have carrying a concealed dog without a permit...


4 posted on 04/26/2014 2:19:22 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: nickcarraway

I hope the guy gets set for life. The reason why he sped towards the cops is probably because he was driving normally and they jumped in front of him. I’ve had cops do that to me in uniform. If they had did that to me undercover, I wouldn’t stop either.


5 posted on 04/26/2014 2:20:06 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: nickcarraway

Farce Enlawment at its finest...


6 posted on 04/26/2014 2:20:18 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: nickcarraway

~~~Holland was delivery a hamburger when he was approached.~~~

The death of copy editors in America has not been greatly-exaggerated.


7 posted on 04/26/2014 2:20:18 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: nickcarraway

Just...Dang!


8 posted on 04/26/2014 2:21:17 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, I hope he makes it. He’s young enough to turn his life around.


9 posted on 04/26/2014 2:21:28 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: nickcarraway

At least in this instance the Police Chief is not saying his men were following the letter of the law and he stands behind their actions. So these police may learn from this. If the young man survives, it may be in a diminished capacity. My question is why is this article written in this manner. The story is fragmented and those fragments are repeated about three times in only a few sentences. Maybe this is how it looks when computers produce or ‘write’ a story after various and sundry facts are added to the blender.


10 posted on 04/26/2014 2:21:41 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: nickcarraway
The hardworking young delivery man had made his last delivery of the night — a cheeseburger meal to a house in the Kingsessing neighborhood — and was walking to his car when the plainclothes pair identified themselves and tried to stop him.

My guess is two black cops approached him, and did not identify themselves. That's the thing about using black plainclothes cops - both thugs and civilians are liable to view them as bad guys.

11 posted on 04/26/2014 2:22:35 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: nickcarraway

Poor guy. I hope he fully recovers and sues. Two thugs come at me, in plain clothes, in a regular car, and I’m getting the heck out of there too. Cops are out of control.


12 posted on 04/26/2014 2:23:47 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: nickcarraway
Ramsey told the newspaper the officers who shot him "feel terrible.

I am sure they really feel terrible that the guy is still alive. Dead men tell no tales. I have no doubt they will skate, however.

13 posted on 04/26/2014 2:23:56 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: nickcarraway
Maybe they mistook him for Christopher Dorner.

I guess it's all good, then!

14 posted on 04/26/2014 2:24:26 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: nickcarraway

15 posted on 04/26/2014 2:24:51 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
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To: nickcarraway

More important than anything else in the world is that the cops went home safely that night. Absolutely nothing else matters.


16 posted on 04/26/2014 2:26:48 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, the important thing is the cops made it home safe. /s


17 posted on 04/26/2014 2:27:55 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Organic Panic

Lawsuit money in such cases comes from we the taxpayers. The officers and the police district do not suffer at all.


18 posted on 04/26/2014 2:28:24 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: kiryandil

LOL!!!!


19 posted on 04/26/2014 2:31:41 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: lee martell

Uh, duh....these “journalists” went to college after a tough high school education, but nowhere was English and writing mandatory.Instead they had “self esteem” courses.


20 posted on 04/26/2014 2:33:54 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Teacher317

Then we the taxpayers should demand changes. Until then, it’s on us, and should be.


21 posted on 04/26/2014 2:35:39 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: nickcarraway

So let’s say I’ve been working, want to get home. Two guys in plain clothes yell at me, and maybe I’ve heard shots in the distance.... Why would I stop for them?


22 posted on 04/26/2014 2:47:28 PM PDT by RickGee
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To: nickcarraway

” he was arrested last week for simple assault for chucking a cellphone at his girlfriend.”

Cut him some slack! Why shouldn’t you be chucking cellphones at others? This guy deserves the medal and the cops should be shot instead.


23 posted on 04/26/2014 2:49:24 PM PDT by sagar
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To: lee martell; nickcarraway
My question is why is this article written in this manner. The story is fragmented and those fragments are repeated about three times in only a few sentences.

If you click the link to the original article, you will see that nickcarraway cut and paste all of the text from the original article to this posting, but neglected to separate out the captions below the three images, which duplicated snippets of the story.

24 posted on 04/26/2014 2:49:49 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: F15Eagle

August 1987. All the editors were killed and eaten by the rest of the newsroom. True story.

/johnny


25 posted on 04/26/2014 2:50:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Yo-Yo; lee martell

I tried to.


26 posted on 04/26/2014 2:58:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: JRandomFreeper

Officer: “Your eyes are bloodshot have you been drinking?”
Suspect: “ Your eyes are glazed. Have you been eating doughnuts?”


27 posted on 04/26/2014 3:02:38 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: Zhang Fei; nickcarraway
That's the thing about using black plainclothes cops - both thugs and civilians are liable to view them as bad guys.

It is a tough call no matter the race of the undercover LEO.

How about this: Undercover LEO's should be prohibited from using deadly force to effect an arrest or prevent the escape of a suspect - unless the police officer reasonably believes that the suspect committed or attempted to commit crimes involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical injury witness a deadly felony.

Well, in any event it appears the USSC thinks that is the law. If these cops are unable to demonstrate they had a reasonable belief that the victim was the shooter (physical description, witnesses, etc.) the taxpayers will write a large check. Even if the undercovers were standing in front of the victim's auto displaying their shields they should not have used deadly force.

28 posted on 04/26/2014 3:04:48 PM PDT by frog in a pot (The 2dA didn't grant a right - it preserved an existing right in order to obtain ratification.)
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To: frog in a pot

Ooops, talk about missing editors - scratch “...witness a deadly felony”.


29 posted on 04/26/2014 3:08:55 PM PDT by frog in a pot (The 2dA didn't grant a right - it preserved an existing right in order to obtain ratification.)
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To: nickcarraway

Holy car for Sunday. Cops went home safe.

30 posted on 04/26/2014 3:09:21 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: nickcarraway

Why do i not believe philly cops when they say the feel terrible about shooting this guy?


31 posted on 04/26/2014 3:21:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway

Wonder how much of the story is true.

Right now, I’m assuming the two cops where black. Cause if they were white the victim would have believed they were cops.


32 posted on 04/26/2014 3:58:21 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: JRandomFreeper

hehe


33 posted on 04/26/2014 4:09:41 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: vladimir998

Well, I hope he makes it. He’s young enough to turn his life around.

***
Yes, prayers up.


34 posted on 04/26/2014 4:33:22 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: nickcarraway; null and void

35 posted on 04/26/2014 5:00:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Usagi_yo

It’s interesting. I don’t know what the race of the police was, but the victim is black. Which was not mentioned by anyone this thread.


36 posted on 04/26/2014 11:20:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Delivering Pizza in a hoodie, at night? Not a wise decision.


And gung ho undercover police at night should not be running around
without Officer gear on. This whole story is one big mistake.

37 posted on 04/26/2014 11:48:05 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: nickcarraway
Don't worry, citizens. The two Philly cops who shot 20-year-old Philippe Holland, the pizza delivery guy (who held down two jobs), are even now planning how they can finish him off. If Philippe recovers from the shooting, they'll figure a way to shut him up permanently before he can press charges against the cops. After all, Philly cops are a law unto themselves and they can murder anyone the please because “I got a badge, dude.”
38 posted on 04/27/2014 2:17:39 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, I wrote that knowing full well the victim was black. Even if the cops where black the situation would still scream out “be prepared to fight or flee dude”.

If your a law abiding citizen working your way through college ... giving yourself some reasonable smarts who are you going to be more afraid of approaching you at night at the end of your cash carrying workday. Two white dudes or two black dudes?

This of course references the a quote by some famous black agitator who was afraid when he heard footsteps following him but relieved when he looked back and saw a white man.


39 posted on 04/27/2014 6:39:22 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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