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Teen's Arm Severed in NY Eatery's Pasta Machine
www.boston.com ^ | April 27, 2014 | Boston.com

Posted on 04/27/2014 11:46:10 AM PDT by windcliff

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MASSENA, N.Y. (AP) — A teenage employee at an Italian restaurant in northern New York has severed his arm while cleaning a pasta machine.

A spokeswoman for Massachusetts General Hospital tells The Associated Press that 17-year-old Brett Bouchard was listed in serious condition there Sunday morning.

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Poor kid. I wonder if he'll get worker's comp for life.
1 posted on 04/27/2014 11:46:10 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: windcliff

Dough!!!!


2 posted on 04/27/2014 11:48:18 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: windcliff
Note the phrasing -- "employee ... has severed his arm"

That's different from when an "SUV kills grandma" or when a "gun kills toddler". In those incidents, humans are not at fault, unlike when an innocent pasta machine has to stand by while an employee severs their own arm.

3 posted on 04/27/2014 11:49:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: windcliff

>employees are trying to figure out how the machine got activated while he was cleaning it.

My guess is it was still plugged in or the breaker was energized. Stupidity wins this round.


5 posted on 04/27/2014 12:02:29 PM PDT by soycd
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To: soycd

In the sawmill I worked at they had lockout procedures you had to follow. Sometimes they were a pain but overall a good idea.


6 posted on 04/27/2014 12:06:34 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: windcliff

Why was he brought from upstate New York to Boston?


7 posted on 04/27/2014 12:08:26 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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Don’t even ask the origin of the dish “Johnny Marzetti”.


8 posted on 04/27/2014 12:10:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Same here. They locked out the power and tagged everything so that even the biggest of morons would know not to go near it.
Table saws were dangerous enough when used properly. Seen a person ripping a 2X4 in half and it kicked back and punched a hole in the wall.


9 posted on 04/27/2014 12:13:25 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Andy'smom
it's closer than NYC...
10 posted on 04/27/2014 12:17:14 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: windcliff

Companies making machines like this take safety very seriously. I once testified in an industrial accident where the injury occurred after the operator enlisted the help of two co-workers to circumvent safety features built into the machine. Sad, but stupidity sometimes has a heavy price.


11 posted on 04/27/2014 12:18:54 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: windcliff

Could have been worse. NEVER order the peckeroni pizza there.


12 posted on 04/27/2014 12:21:49 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: windcliff

I worked at a large butcher shop as a teen. I calculated that for the career-guys there, they averaged one lost finger for every 5 years of work.

It was a real motivation to further my education.


13 posted on 04/27/2014 12:21:51 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

I put in equipment in a plant like that where you could estimate tenure by missing digits. I guess if you lose all 10 they give you a gold watch and retire you.


14 posted on 04/27/2014 12:22:59 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: windcliff

“I wonder if he’ll get worker’s comp for life.”

For a start, but nothing will buy him his arm back.


15 posted on 04/27/2014 12:31:23 PM PDT by jocon307
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For a start, but nothing will buy him his arm back.”

In the meantime we have members of our military who have lost arms and somehow manage to adjust without the benefit of lifetime worker’s comp or suing anybody.


16 posted on 04/27/2014 12:53:39 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

I don’t want to be contentious but the situations aren’t equivalent.


17 posted on 04/27/2014 1:08:45 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: windcliff

How big of a pasta making machine is this??? They must be making oodles of noodles!


18 posted on 04/27/2014 1:41:23 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: windcliff
What was he doing? The restaurant should know that machines should be cleaned by employees older than 18.

Wonder who is at fault? OSHA is going to be involved.

19 posted on 04/27/2014 2:03:20 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: windcliff
Oh no, it's Ronny Cammareri all over again...


20 posted on 04/27/2014 2:26:11 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PGR88

The old timer brothers at the butcher shop where I worked as a teen were virtuosos with a knife. Between the two of them they had 75 years of experience and were only each missing the tip of one finger.


21 posted on 04/27/2014 2:34:36 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Might have been something like this one:

http://arcobalenollc.com/AMF160.html

That is a very serious piece of machinery, especially the mixer (watch the beginning of the video at the link).

22 posted on 04/27/2014 2:43:35 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: windcliff

Was he doped up?


23 posted on 04/27/2014 2:54:57 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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To: bigbob
I make it a point to go around the plant and take off the lockout tabs.

PROUDLY CLAIMING ZERO DAYS SINCE LAST FATALITY

24 posted on 04/27/2014 3:07:01 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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I make it a point to go around the plant and take off the lockout tabs.

I am pretty sure you are joking Laz….at least I hope so : O

I work for a manufacturing company; we have several plants in PA and one in NC and a location in the UK. I am the payroll manager and am in the Human Resources department and as such, I get copied on all the notification on work place injuries and “near misses” as I’m the back up for the benefits person who handles workers compensation claims. And we at my company take safety very seriously. All employees upon hire, no matter their position, even the executives, get a mandatory full day of safety training and we all, even us in office/administrative positions have to attend monthly safety training meetings. And we take the lockout/tag out stuff very seriously as we do if any employee circumvents any safety controls or operates machinery in an unsafe manner and contrary to the written work instructions.

When we have a piece of equipment under repair or maintenance under a lockout, tag out, I along with everyone in HR, all the maintenance personnel, the plant managers and production supervisors get notified via our safety database notification system and a general email is sent out to all those in that plant and another notification is sent out when the work is complete and the tags are removed. If I am walking through the plant, as I often have to do to get from the HR office to the finance and executive offices, if I see someone operating a piece of equipment with a lock out tag on it, I have the right and the obligation to tell them to stop and immediately notify the plant manager. We even have a policy that any employee who has any sort of safety concern and reports it to their supervisor or plant manager, even if that concern ends up being non-founded, that employee will never be reprimanded for it. Any employee can shut down the production line if they see a safety violation without fear of retribution.

And our company, not only in my division but all our companies worldwide under our UK parent company, has an exemplarity safety record. We did have a workplace fatality in one of our Australian plants but it turned out the employee who was killed had a high BAC, was drunk on the job and as a result, we tightened up our drug and alcohol policy. Any reportable work place injury now requires a mandatory drug and alcohol test as does any case of “reason suspicion”.

In this case, I wonder if the 17 year old had ever been properly trained on how to safely clean this machine? What about his co-workers? Was he trained to unplug it before cleaning it, was the on-switch covered like with a Plexiglas shield so that it couldn’t be turned on if accidentally bumped. Was the plug readily accessible? Was he or his co-workers instructed not to bother with unplugging it, just “be careful”? Or as someone else mentioned, at 17 was he “old” enough to even be breaking down this piece of potentially dangerous machinery in the first place? Was horse play involved? Drugs? Alcohol?

In my experience, including working in a grocery store and in the deli for a time using meat slicers and sharp knives and many years of working in retail, using ladders and pallet jacks and cardboard compactors and as a teenager working with my carpenter dad, 99.99% of all work place injuries are completely avoidable. Sometimes a company can do everything they can to keep workers safe from serious injuries but if an employee, even if properly trained, ignores those instructions, they will injure themselves or others.

I am sure OSHA will conduct an investigation. Yes, OHSA is a PITA but they do sometimes serve a good purpose in investigating serious workplace injuries or fatalities.

FWIW, my husband worked for an excavating company. One day the owner’s son was backing up a big excavating machine in the yard and another worker walked right behind it and was crushed to death as the excavator pinned him against a big cinder block wall. The son was devastated as the guy who was killed was also his best friend. OSHA did an investigation and the first thing they looked at, was if the backup warning alarm system was working, and it was. Then they interviewed the witnesses including my husband and they all saw the same thing; the worker that was killed saw the machine backing up, everyone heard the backup alarm and he just ran behind it, mistakenly thinking that he had enough time to clear out of its path. OSHA next reviewed their safety training records and records of previous work place injuries and found the company was not at fault.

The company paid for the man’s funeral expenses and his mother did get his company provided life insurance. But even though he wasn’t at fault, the owner’s son was never quite the same. He had and probably still has recurring nightmares about that day and for a long time wouldn’t operate any heavy machinery. One stupid rash mistake cost a man his life and nearly ruined the life of another.

25 posted on 04/27/2014 5:03:29 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA
I am pretty sure you are joking Laz….at least I hope so :O

No. I am not joking. Our plant produces nothing but pollution. Day after day our smokestacks pump out clouds of noxious gases; there's a drainpipe that drains a green toxic sludge into a nearby pristine river; and our open-bed trucks deliver unsecured, leaky barrels of radioactive and deadly poisons.

Those are the only products we produce.

We have a 100% mandatory sexual harassment policy. If you want to work here, Honey, get used to tight skirts and smacks on the ass while you get me come coffee and make me a damn sammich.

We insist our employees test positive for cocaine or opiates every time they are tested. If they fail to test positive, we send them to drug education classes.

And I, the man who came up with this amazing business plan, walk around the plant taking off all lock-outs I see.

26 posted on 04/27/2014 5:46:48 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I used to operate a heavy-duty power paper cutter in our family printing business—one that could cut a stack of paper several inches thick. This machine was manufactured in 1947. It required two large levers, one on each end of the machine, to be engaged by the operator during the entire process of cutting, making it impossible to get under the blade as it came down. Releasing either lever caused the machine to stop.


27 posted on 04/27/2014 6:25:58 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: MD Expat in PA

That’s sad.

I was putting up a 25 story high rise for a big GC and one day some guy who was just released from a psych ward nearby walks onto the job site about 4:30 PM, gets a ride up to the sixth floor by the rent a drunk operating the buck hoist, and proceeds to leap off the building, resulting in one dead psycho.

The kicker is that because he was not an employee of the GC or any of the subs, OSHA had no jurisdiction and they couldn’t investigate.

Lots of high fives going on amongst the GC brass, real nice group of fellas.


28 posted on 04/27/2014 6:37:44 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Grams A

It’s not the same. When you join the volunteer military you takes your money and your chances. This poor kid, who hasn’t sued anybody that we know of or has not claimed workmans’ comp that we know of, is ruined for life and it’s not a joke.


29 posted on 04/28/2014 7:53:54 AM PDT by stellaluna
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To: Grams A
In the meantime we have members of our military who have lost arms and somehow manage to adjust without the benefit of lifetime worker’s comp or suing anybody.

You lose an arm on active duty and you're getting a check from Uncle Sam for the rest of your life.

30 posted on 04/28/2014 7:59:25 AM PDT by Drew68
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