Skip to comments.Destroy a Church in 4 Simple Steps
Posted on 04/28/2014 11:37:57 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
A short time ago I learned of a church building in our neighborhood that was for sale. For years now Grace Fellowship Church has been looking for a building of our own, so we thought we should go and give it a look. This had once been a thriving congregation. Faithful Christians had given sacrificially to construct that building. They had consecrated it to the Lord and had worshipped there for many years. Yet now that building was deserted, decaying, and up for sale.
What happened? How did that church go from thriving to dying? How did it slide from healthy to sick to dead? I think I know. I think Paul tells us in his second letter to Timothy, the letter he wrote just days or weeks before his death. There, in chapter 4, he looks into the future, he sees a church being destroyed, and he warns us how it happens. Its as straightforward as four simple steps.
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Sad to say, you’re right.
I left the UMC because of the insanity.
Don’t forget the ELCA.
Allow liberals to take control.
You would have to mention them, my former denomination, now just another Liberal Cult.
Good, succinct article.
Yep, it’s even sinking in to some conservative churches.
Funny, I belong to what many people would call a ‘cult’ because we adhere to some Old Testament practices. Meanwhile these liberal churches wither on the vine because they stand for nothing and believe anything. Once their congregations get wise to the fact that there’s no reason to attend these churches the churches close.
Believing in something and then practicing what you believe is a radical act these days.
I've met some really interesting people and made some good friends over the years visiting churches which seem to be the most unpopular with our modern day Babylonian Mainstream.
The chruch I went to as a kid is still around. My paerents still go. I didn’t realize how bad it got until my 10 year old came home with a gay pride bracelet. My paerents are lefties so I started to think just where did they go?
She got it at a umc church. Thankfully they had no clue what it ment.
Grandma has been told. Not to take the kids to chruch any more.
It’s an error to interpret large building programs as the evidence of a Spirit-lead congregation. After all, the largest “gay and lesbian” church located in Dallas just constructed a massive new multi-million dollar chapel.
Are we to suppose, then, that they are being “blessed” by God?
Satan is their god and he is using them and their money to build his temple.
A good article that makes it’s point well. Thanks.
And I think this same progression can be genericized to apply to how a lot of things are destroyed. Families. Communities. Cultures.
There’s a lot of truth in what he says. I’ve witnessed it myself in Seattle. The Capital Hill Methodist church is gone and all the Christian Scientists churches are gone. All progressive humanist churches are just barely hanging in there with maybe twenty or so attending church on Sunday. Across from us we have a First United Church of Christ with a Lesbian pasture. I had a conversation with her and she told me the trouble with Seattle is that there were too many churches. I was shocked that a pasture would say that so I said ‘the trouble with Seattle is that there were not enough pasture’s preaching the gospel. Needless to say her church has less then twenty attending service on Sunday. She seem to think that if more churches were gone she would have more people attending her church apparently.
How to survive? 4 steps.
(i) Get a better definition of “church” outside a denominational moniker or “brick & mortar” edifices.
(ii) Realize that people of all understandings make up Christ’s church, established at His crucifixion and resurrection. The gathering of the faithful (the baptized).
(iii) Understand that each congregation, in its place and location, is the Christ’s Church militant, “all the company of heaven laud and magnify His name”
(iv) Sola Fides, Sola Gratia, Sola Scriptura. The gathering that preaches and hears the Word (Logos!) rightly divided and in its purity is the dwelling place of God (the Holy of Holies).
From what I read about the “dead” church in the article, I would guess it was formerly a UCC congregation. I’ve read some of their latest statements, and it sounds like them. The “Church of What’s Happnin’ Now.”
Then let's stop using the strength of building programs as a barometer of church health. That's my only point.
Yes Sir!!! Right on.
“...and the shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables....”
IF they’re not preaching/teaching/living the Truth, it’s just a matter of time that they will end up shutting the doors, or seeing it turned into a pickle barrel factory or something. That was, and is, the underhanded motive all along...to shut it down by deceptive means that all sound so good.
ViglanteMan is right. Liberals are inspired by those from the demonic pit of Hell. They deceptively come to steal, kill and destroy just like their big daddy, Satan. They use just enough “truth” to sound really good to “itching ears”, but their motives and deception are pure evil...always have been, always will be till the Judgement Day. The nature of man hasn’t changed hardly at all in these thousands of years. Sure, our technology has progressed dramatically, but not our human nature. Without Truth, man is no match for, and will fall for, almost every whim of the evil one.
The United Methodist Church is still attempting futilely to fight off the sodomite barbarians, but when you unbiblically ordain women as ministers, eventually you go all-liberal in the long haul. You have to.
Ravi Zacharias says that if the guy in the pulpit doesn’t believe it the church will die.
One trend I’ve seen is that churches are seeking growth more than ever.
I’ve seen churches partake in very aggressive marketing of their churches of having high profile Christmas concerts, promoting Vacation Bible School to nearby housing complexes or invite all of the community to their annual carnival.
A few years later, they are thanking the Lord that they’re prayers have been answered because their church has grown greatly in the past 5 years.
But suddenly, pastors become afraid of stepping on toes of the new people that are coming to church so certain topics become avoided.
Next, it becomes more of a democracy, or even mob rule, and those that do not believe in the church’s traditional beliefs become the loudest at screaming at what the church should or should not say or do.
Or the “Church of (you-fill-in-the-blank)”
“...Its an error to interpret large building programs as the evidence of a Spirit-lead congregation. After all, the largest gay and lesbian church located in Dallas just constructed a massive new multi-million dollar chapel.
Are we to suppose, then, that they are being blessed by God?...”
I agree with you. We really need to look/see what’s being taught under the roof. Building programs are NOT an indication of being “blessed”. However, the destruction of once spirit-led denominations is the real goal. Satan doesn’t care how big your building is. He’ll even help you build it IF it will turn people away from the Truth...such as the one you speak of in Dallas.
Sounds like we go to the same church.
But are those Lesbian cows?
“Across from us we have a First United Church of Christ with a Lesbian pasture.”
I pictured a fenced meadow with 200 lb lesbians mooing & ranting, kept separate from the main church.
Nope, they’re running it.
All the lesbians I know are cows. A lesbian pasture seems a reasonable thing to me.
I attended Foursquare for 30 years or so. One of the leaders signed the Evangelical Climate Initiative. The theology, at least at the Beaverton location, is still sound. But “the Shack” was quite popular.Tickled ears are making inroads, I’m afraid.
I live fairly far from the church I was attending, so I am now attending a church in my community that currently balances community outreach and Biblical truth, and I pray that it stays that way.
(iv) ...and Solo Christo & Soli Deo Gloria.
UCC = Unitarians Considering Christ.
If your elders are unqualified ... it is just a matter of time before this happens to EVERY church.
Just as fundamental as rejecting truth is its precursor;rejecting authority. Truth is received based on authority, law and society are structured according to authority even the very gospel of Christ alone as the substitutionary atonement is founded on the doctrine of authority. Authority is a much overlooked yet essential doctrine of God. His church, the family, and civic societies that fail to acknowledge the authority of Christ have already caused the first domino to fall. Remember those words spoken back in Eden “Yeah did God really say...” and “Nay you shall not surely die” - the challenge of authority resulted in the fall and we are still falling for it today.
The problem with gays and lesbians is that most of them are anti-christian and don’t attend church. When a church tries to appeal to them they don’t come.
To the gay community, everyone and everything is gay.
If the preacher man went out there and posed with the cows, then wouldn’t he be a pastor out standing in his pasture?
Yeah, I’m keeping an eye on my pastors. The youth pastor didn’t seem to have a problem with the Islamic pledge of faith being taught in schools or having the students say it. My daughter’s 6th grade teacher, who is the wife of a minister, supports communism/May Day Rioters and Barrack Obama. I wonder where her discernment is.
With all those cows, he might be standing in more than just a pasture.
More confirmation that my decision to abandon the UMC was the correct one.
The only reason the UMC hasn’t gone all Sodom and Gomorrah is the UMC churches in Africa and South America are conservative. They are the ones standing in the gap. But the UMC in North America is lost.
Do you know anything about the “Wesleyan” church groups? Not sure how affiliated they are with the Methodist groups, since they have the same founding figure. From what I’ve read, they are what the United Methodists used to be many decades ago.
No, I sure don’t. I’m not sure there are any in my area.
I’ve joined an Anglican church. I’ve been really happy there. But I am a bit of a traditionalist so the liturgy is very comforting to me.
But when the Anglicans go all Sodom and Gomorrah, I’ll probably have to find another option.
God's own blessings upon you and your house!
New symbol of the left: one gold calf.