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Long Beach Police Fatally Shoot Unarmed Suspect As He Runs Away
NBC Los Angeles ^ | Samia Khan and Gadi Schwartz

Posted on 04/29/2014 3:37:37 PM PDT by Norse Code

Long Beach Police officers had an "obstructed view" when they opened fire on a man who was allegedly running from a standoff Sunday, according to a press release issued Monday.

"Long Beach officers, who were located on the beach, east of the foot of the stairs with an obstructed view due to palm trees and shrubbery, heard gunshots from above and saw the suspect running toward the populated beach area," the press release stated. "The suspect failed to surrender and after officers observed him reaching or his waist band, an officer involved shooting occurred."

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TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cops; donutwatch; lawnguyland; longbeach; longisland; n00b; nassaucounty; newyork; noob; police; policestate; unarmed
It keeps happening.
1 posted on 04/29/2014 3:37:37 PM PDT by Norse Code
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To: Norse Code

2 posted on 04/29/2014 3:42:09 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Norse Code

“”The suspect failed to surrender and after officers observed him reaching or his waist band,”

Sounds like a simple case of suicide by cop. If you are going to be in a standoff and going to reach for stuff, be prepare to be baptized by lead.


3 posted on 04/29/2014 3:42:32 PM PDT by sagar
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To: Norse Code

But is his dog okay?


4 posted on 04/29/2014 3:43:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: sagar

Actually sounds like someone running from a shooter only to be cut down by the police. Sad. And I may be wrong.


5 posted on 04/29/2014 3:45:49 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Norse Code

More Fullerton Police Academy graduates. And they didn’t have to go far to attend.


6 posted on 04/29/2014 3:45:53 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: Norse Code

I used to ride my bike right past there every day. A guy was killed in a drive-by right behind my place. One Sunday afternoon while watching football, I had my patio door open and heard a police radio. I stepped outside and looked down to see a cop draped across the top of his patrol car, gun drawn. He looked up at me and waved at me to go back inside. I’m glad I’m out of the LBC.


7 posted on 04/29/2014 3:49:58 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: SkyDancer

They all gave the obligatory “I thought he was reaching for something and I was scared for my life” routine.


8 posted on 04/29/2014 3:50:00 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Norse Code
Roid rage high fives fella's!

Now go shave your heads again, shoot some dogs, beat your wives, drive drunk, and enjoy the high for now.

For one day soon, the consequences will be brutal.

9 posted on 04/29/2014 3:50:23 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: sagar

So running away is now “suicide by cop”? There is video, he didn’t “reach into his waist band”, and the cops are lying.

It’s getting harder for cops to get away with murder these days with everyone toting a video camera in their shirt pocket.


10 posted on 04/29/2014 3:55:53 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Norse Code
From the article:

The incident began about 2:45 p.m. Sunday at a Target store in the 1600 block of South Alameda Street in Compton where sheriff's deputies were assisting security officers in detaining a man who allegedly tried to commit a robbery at the store, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said in a press release.

As deputies assisted security officers, the man "pulled out a large pair of scissors" - apparently garden shears - from his waistband, then fled to a SUV and drove away from the area with authorities in pursuit

The SUV came to a stop in the 1800 block of East Ocean Boulevard in Long Beach, where deputies said the man refused to come out of the vehicle. About 15 minutes later, the man got out of the SUV allegedly holding a large wooden stick.

In an attempt to detain the uncooperative suspect, the press release said, deputies used a stun bag, but it had no effect on the man, and he again ran from deputies

Witnesses told NBC4 that the suspect did not appear to be aggressive

Not aggressive? Sad to see the guy lose his life but he was given multiple opportunities to surrender.

Don't blame the cops on this one.

11 posted on 04/29/2014 3:57:56 PM PDT by eldoradude (How many democrats does it take to change a light bulb?)
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To: Norse Code

“It keeps happening.”

This is why when I hear about a cop getting shot, I really could care less... Live by the sword, die by the sword.


12 posted on 04/29/2014 4:01:41 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: BipolarBob
They all gave the obligatory “I thought he was reaching for something and I was scared for my life” routine.

A witness stated he was reaching for a puppy.
13 posted on 04/29/2014 4:05:15 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Hugin

People have already chosen security over privacy. They have elected to have militarized police force to enforce law and order, by any means. The system has been established and people will have to tow the line.

So, do not screw up or you will be cut down. I am sure vast majority of the people will not lose sleep over those killed in police encounter.


14 posted on 04/29/2014 4:08:11 PM PDT by sagar
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To: PA Engineer
A witness stated he was reaching for a puppy

Oh, crap, LOL
15 posted on 04/29/2014 4:14:43 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Norse Code

Pigs, what ya gonna do.....


16 posted on 04/29/2014 4:19:02 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Norse Code

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy7VZ6IiInI

17 posted on 04/29/2014 4:19:34 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: waterhill

Glad the dog is ok, though


18 posted on 04/29/2014 4:19:44 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Hugin
It’s getting harder for cops to get away with murder these days with everyone toting a video camera in their shirt pocket.

It would be even harder for them to get away with murder if everyone was carrying a gun in their pocket.

19 posted on 04/29/2014 4:26:36 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Norse Code

Long Beach is going to be writing a huge check. This type of case was settled by the U.S. Supreme Court in Garner v. Tenn., 471 U.S. 1 (1985)

Here is the link to the Garner case; and it is taught in every law enforcement use of force training class in the country.

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/471/1/case.html


20 posted on 04/29/2014 4:38:35 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: babygene
"This is why when I hear about a cop getting shot, I really could care less... Live by the sword, die by the sword."

Let's say there is a homeowner who believes in carrying a firearm on his person, and he believes in using deadly force to protect himself and his property. Suddenly he is confronted by an armed burglar. The homeowner draws his pistol and fires, missing the suspect. The suspect returns fire, killing the homeowner. By your creed, "you really could care less" because: "Live by the sword, die by the sword."

21 posted on 04/29/2014 4:44:02 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: Respond Code Three

“Let’s say there is a homeowner who believes in carrying a firearm on his person, and he believes in using deadly force to protect himself and his property. Suddenly he is confronted by an armed burglar. The homeowner draws his pistol and fires, missing the suspect. The suspect returns fire, killing the homeowner. By your creed, “you really could care less” because: “Live by the sword, die by the sword.”

Not at all...

The cops are government sponsored organized crime. They murder unarmed people. ALL (not just the cop that pulled the trigger) must be held responsible.

If the homeowner shot an unarmed burglar, that could be different. I’m not against anyone going up against an armed suspect in a firefight. That would be self defense. That’s not what is happening.


22 posted on 04/29/2014 5:01:39 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Norse Code

“reaching for his waist band”

Again?


23 posted on 04/29/2014 5:07:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Norse Code

The kops claim there were shots fired but the person fleeing had no weapons in his hand...Obviously it wasn’t him that was shooting...It likely was the kops behind him, shooting at him...

Looks like the runner did the only thing he could do to try to save his life...When the kops are out to kill you, they won’t stop even if they have to burn you out...


24 posted on 04/29/2014 5:22:38 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Norse Code; Alaska Wolf; TexasFreeper2009; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou
JBT Ping list


25 posted on 04/29/2014 5:25:21 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: eldoradude
Not aggressive? Sad to see the guy lose his life but he was given multiple opportunities to surrender.

Don't blame the cops on this one.

The kops lied about the runner reaching for a gun...But we are supposed to believe they are telling the truth about the rest of the story???

26 posted on 04/29/2014 5:25:50 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: null and void

Memo to self, if your pants are falling off, don’t reach for your waistband...


27 posted on 04/29/2014 5:26:44 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: Karl Spooner

They shot him at least twice...They eventually meander up to him, put a foot on his head, roll him over and handcuff him...


28 posted on 04/29/2014 5:33:12 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: All

Go to the following link about the 2:00 minute mark and see what happens. This guy is
running down an outside stairway fleeing the premises and is shot when he get near
the bottom. He was posing no threat, imo. Now there maybe other things not seen in
the video that would counter my observation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy7VZ6IiInI


29 posted on 04/29/2014 5:34:53 PM PDT by deport
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To: sagar
Sounds like a simple case of suicide by cop. If you are going to be in a standoff and going to reach for stuff, be prepare to be baptized by lead.

Read the story and watch the video.

30 posted on 04/29/2014 5:53:07 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (The bill was the subject of a truly awe-inspiring tsunami of poorly informed indignation. Rich Lowry)
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To: Respond Code Three

I see that your comprehension hasn’t gotten any better.


31 posted on 04/29/2014 5:55:24 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (The bill was the subject of a truly awe-inspiring tsunami of poorly informed indignation. Rich Lowry)
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To: Iscool

That’s typical of their cowardly behavior. Do you have that video on hand?


32 posted on 04/29/2014 6:10:09 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: BipolarBob

It’s on the plastic excuse card they receive at graduation.


33 posted on 04/29/2014 6:21:48 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: babygene
Let's change the scenario then.

A woman is walking down the sidewalk a couple of blocks from her house. A male jumps out of the bushes and punches her in the stomach, knocking the wind out of her and she falls to her knees. He rips off her blouse and bra. She manages to get a pistol from her purse but he grabs it and kills her with her own handgun. By your creed, “you really could care less” because: “Live by the sword, die by the sword.” She was armed and he wasn't.

34 posted on 04/29/2014 7:01:15 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
"I see that your comprehension hasn’t gotten any better."

You have directed an unwarranted insult and have contributed nothing of value to this discussion.

35 posted on 04/29/2014 7:03:07 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: Respond Code Three

“Let’s change the scenario then.

A woman is walking down the sidewalk a couple of blocks from her house. A male jumps out of the bushes and punches her in the stomach, knocking the wind out of her and she falls to her knees. He rips off her blouse and bra. She manages to get a pistol from her purse but he grabs it and kills her with her own handgun. By your creed, “you really could care less” because: “Live by the sword, die by the sword.” She was armed and he wasn’t. “

Your sick... Not even close. She would be defending her self, the cop was murdering an unarmed civilian.


36 posted on 04/29/2014 7:15:44 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Respond Code Three

It’s an accurate observation. Deal with it.


37 posted on 04/29/2014 7:17:40 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (The bill was the subject of a truly awe-inspiring tsunami of poorly informed indignation. Rich Lowry)
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To: Norse Code

“The suspect failed to surrender and after officers observed him reaching or his waist band, an officer involved shooting occurred”

I’m calling bullshit with that one. Every time they screw up, it is “He was reaching for his waistband.” Pigs teach each other the words to say when they kill someone. Same for that Wesley Chapel prick who killed a man in a movie theater.

And if they heard a gun shot, why is he reaching for his waistband?


38 posted on 04/29/2014 7:44:39 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: Respond Code Three

“Let’s say there is a homeowner who believes in carrying a firearm on his person, and he believes in using deadly force to protect himself and his property. Suddenly he is confronted by an armed burglar. The homeowner draws his pistol and fires, missing the suspect. The suspect returns fire, killing the homeowner. By your creed, “you really could care less” because: “Live by the sword, die by the sword.” “

Not the same at all. The home owner isn’t eager for his kill in life. Cops are. The home owner doesn’t work himself up into a paranoid condition. Cops do work themselves up. Look at the bitch who killed a kid holding a wii. Her fear was uncontrolled. Same with those in the Dorner hunt. And many other incidents.

There is no sense of reasonable fear among LE, and no sense of the harm they cause. It is always “Awww, shucks. At least the cop made it home. That is all that matters.”

When cops don’t value our lives, why should we value theirs?


39 posted on 04/29/2014 7:51:30 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: babygene
Just one more scenario then.

An off duty officer is at home and it's his 6 year old's daughter's birthday. He has a surprise present for her but it is at a neighbor's because he was worried that she would find the gift too soon. He leaves the house unarmed, and gets the gift. On the way back a subject confronts him. The subject is armed with a pistol and said he recognizes the officer who arrested him and sent him to prison and he's going to kill him. The officer is unarmed but he wrestles with the subject, and with both of their hands on the gun, he manages to turn the gun to the suspect and fires, killing the suspect.

Regarding the suspect: “you really could care less,” because: “Live by the sword, die by the sword.”

Also in keeping with your beliefs: "The cops are government sponsored organized crime. They murder unarmed people."

In this scenario would the cop be wrong to fight for his life? Does he not have the right to return to his wife and young daughter?

40 posted on 04/29/2014 8:44:59 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: LevinFan
The situations are different. The point is "Live by the gun, die by the gun." If it applies to one officer, it must logically apply to anyone else who is armed with a gun.

Much of the rest of your post is the run of the mill emotional generalizations, and are not worthy of further discussions.

41 posted on 04/29/2014 8:49:10 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

For a second time, you have posted nothing of value. Please quit this thread.


42 posted on 04/29/2014 8:50:27 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: Respond Code Three

“In this scenario would the cop be wrong to fight for his life?”

No... Everybody has a right to self defense. Even disciple- low-life-cop-murderers...

Beginning to get the picture?


43 posted on 04/29/2014 9:03:48 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Respond Code Three

You can’t bully on an FR thread, officer. FO.


44 posted on 04/30/2014 5:57:02 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (The bill was the subject of a truly awe-inspiring tsunami of poorly informed indignation. Rich Lowry)
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To: null and void
That picture needs to be posted every time there is a thread about a cop shooting. Whether justified or not. Believe it or not there were a bunch of people defending the cops that shot up that truck. The one with the old lady and her, I believe, daughter delivering papers.
45 posted on 04/30/2014 6:10:26 AM PDT by saleman
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Your third post contributing nothing helpful. Good bye.


46 posted on 04/30/2014 8:26:12 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: babygene
"Everybody has a right to self defense. Even disciple- low-life-cop-murderers..."

Aw you old softie. I knew you cared, if even just a little. Don't worry, I won't tell anyone.

47 posted on 04/30/2014 8:27:55 AM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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