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Taking a Toll: Administration wants to let states charge on interstate highways
FoxNews.com ^ | 4/30/14

Posted on 04/30/2014 8:05:46 PM PDT by DBCJR

Ever driven down I-95 in Maryland, or the New Jersey Turnpike, and parted ways with $10, $20 in tolls?

If the Obama administration has its way, highways across the country could someday be that way.

In a major shift for how governments fund transportation projects, the administration wants to let states charge tolls on interstate highways. A federal ban currently bars states from doing so in most places, but the latest White House push could change that.

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1 posted on 04/30/2014 8:05:46 PM PDT by DBCJR
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To: DBCJR

Oh good so then they are going to do away with the state and federal tax on gasoline, right?


2 posted on 04/30/2014 8:08:20 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: DBCJR

Well, a crappy economy, high gas prices and more fuel efficient cars all means less fuel being used which means less gas tax collected. Can anyone say, unexpected consequences.


3 posted on 04/30/2014 8:08:29 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: DBCJR
Is there any tax, fee, levy, duty, impost, obligation, toll, tribute, tariff, assign-age, custom or tithe that this man is against?
4 posted on 04/30/2014 8:09:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: DBCJR

A great place for TSA checkpoints. I think we are going to become a lot more like third world countries where police are brigands with a badge and a gun.


5 posted on 04/30/2014 8:10:37 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: DBCJR

politically tone-deaf


6 posted on 04/30/2014 8:10:52 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: DBCJR

Federal funds built the interstate highway. Why should we now pay for them again?


7 posted on 04/30/2014 8:11:57 PM PDT by kabar
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To: DBCJR

If I thought the funds as received were being managed faithfully and to the benefit of all I would have no compunctions.

If frogs had wings . . .


8 posted on 04/30/2014 8:13:23 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: DBCJR

Absolutely not. The Interstate highway system is already up-front bought and paid for with federal tax dollars. Tolling them again after the fact is just wrong. How they get away with it on I 90 through Chicago and Massachusetts, I dunno.


9 posted on 04/30/2014 8:15:22 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: DBCJR
Under his plan drivers will save $2500 a year.Period!
10 posted on 04/30/2014 8:15:37 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: McGavin999
Oh good so then they are going to do away with the state and federal tax on gasoline, right?

On the contrary, they are going to tax you for even *thinking* about gasoline.

11 posted on 04/30/2014 8:15:46 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: DBCJR

Congress is noticeably absent once again in the making of US laws.


12 posted on 04/30/2014 8:15:49 PM PDT by Revel
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To: DBCJR

This will seal people into their cities.

One thing that the poor and all Americans had at one time, was the ability to travel, freely.

A 100 dollar beater car, some gas money, and you could go anywhere, drive just for the fun of it.


13 posted on 04/30/2014 8:18:01 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: DBCJR

Let’s hope they don’t get away with put their hands into our pockets again, especially with all the FEDERAL waste, labor rules on contracts that do transportation roadwork, and THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A FEDERAL GAS TAX FOR THAT, in an era with already very high gas prices!~


14 posted on 04/30/2014 8:21:26 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: DBCJR

No problem. Just kill the Fed and State fuel taxes...


15 posted on 04/30/2014 8:30:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DBCJR

Reinstituting the feudal system. Stay put and produce for us.


16 posted on 04/30/2014 8:32:23 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: DBCJR

It’s a crooked deal. In Texas, there was a plan (until the bruhaha about it) to sell our toll roads to a company in Spain and to agree to a “non-compete” clause prohibiting the establishment of alternate roadways.

In Austin, they are trying to turn all new highway construction into tollroads.

In Houston, the stated agreement was that after 20+ years, the Beltway would be paid off and made free. A GOPe official said he never agreed to that (the policy predated his tenure) so he said that he would not abide by it (I think they continue to borrow against the revenue, keeping it from being paid off).

Don’t let the barn door on this get opened. We WILL find ourselves paying to ride on roads we paid for and the money going to private companies (just as the corrupt officials pay out half of the ticket money from red light cameras to private companies).


17 posted on 04/30/2014 8:34:37 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Ramius
How they get away with it on I 90 through Chicago and Massachusetts, I dunno.

Can't speak for Chicago but here in the Gay State the "Massachusetts Turnpike Authority" is the resting place for thousands of fat a$$ed brothers-in-law of Rat politicians and "the most vulnerable among us" (IOW,affirmative action).But we must pray for these unfortunates...a Boston columnist did some research a few years ago and found that the unionized toll takers make close to $80K a year and the management makes far,far more.

18 posted on 04/30/2014 8:35:30 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: McGavin999
Oh good so then they are going to do away with the state and federal tax on gasoline, right?

And the excise tax on tires too, I bet!

19 posted on 04/30/2014 8:37:10 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: All

I just love the toll roads from Chicago to the Wisconsin border. The way they tax us, we are all fools to work for them.


20 posted on 04/30/2014 8:41:07 PM PDT by Luke21 (hicago)
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To: kabar
Federal funds built the interstate highway. Why should we now pay for them again?

Because they have to be rebuilt, due to wear and tear and lack of capacity for increased traffic.

21 posted on 04/30/2014 8:54:30 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: DBCJR

Oh my, can one not just see the back ups?


22 posted on 04/30/2014 8:55:22 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: grumpygresh

Actually, the tolls would probably be electronic, with people whizzing under the gantries at highway speed. No TSA.

Now, I suspect the TSA could start showing up at rest areas, molesting hapless drivers who just wanted to pee.


23 posted on 04/30/2014 8:58:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: DBCJR

Though liberals always point to the interstate highway system as a great achievement of government, they hate the freedom that those roads and the cars that drove on them symbolized.


24 posted on 04/30/2014 9:05:14 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: Mouton

Not likely, since highway-speed electronic tolling would probably be the choice of any toll project.


25 posted on 04/30/2014 9:07:25 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
...they have to be rebuilt, due to wear and tear and lack of capacity for increased traffic.

Which of course is what the gas taxes we pay are for.

26 posted on 04/30/2014 9:07:50 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: DBCJR

They are toll lanes designed to collect revenue for road maintenance because cars are getting better mileage, thus less excise tax.

The most efficient tax collection is to increase the excise tax but Congress is afraid to do that.


27 posted on 04/30/2014 9:08:29 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: McGavin999
"Oh good so then they are going to do away with the state and federal tax on gasoline, right?"

Not likely. This is more akin to the tax revenue generated from cigarettes. Fewer smokers, less revenue. More fuel efficient cars, or worse, electric, less revenue.

28 posted on 04/30/2014 9:13:59 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: DBCJR

Barack the Kenyan and his ‘RATS have to pay for ObamaCare somehow.


29 posted on 04/30/2014 9:30:41 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Been on any of the toll roads around Orlando. My guess about a third of the cars do not have toll e cards. These are not heavily traveled roads so the back ups are minimal. Put those same tolls on 95 wherein the toll system is state run and a good deal of the travelers are from out of state and my guess would be there will be back ups from Miami to Virginia during the late evening hours, during the day, everyone will be on US 1 to avoid the parking lots.


30 posted on 04/30/2014 9:31:07 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: DBCJR

Ha, I can see it now. Drivers in state will get a rebate but only those with out of state plate will have to pay - unless they are leaving


31 posted on 04/30/2014 9:44:20 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: DBCJR
You have to turn the economy around somehow, right?

< /s>

32 posted on 04/30/2014 9:49:50 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: DBCJR

If you like your free interstate highways, you can keep your free interstate highways.


33 posted on 04/30/2014 9:51:46 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Not likely, since highway-speed electronic tolling would probably be the choice of any toll project.

License plate scanning will make this possible.

If you don't pay up, no license renewal for you.

34 posted on 04/30/2014 9:54:44 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: DBCJR

If property taxes were eliminated, I might sign up....

i might sign up.


35 posted on 04/30/2014 10:14:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: McGavin999

I forget the double and triple taxation folks don’t count any of the taxes or fees that we pay that add up from anywhere from 20 - almost 50 of our income % in local taxes, oil & gasoline taxes, income tax, property tax, luxury taxes, phone taxes, oil dumping fees, vehicle registration fees, vehicle inspection fees, etc...


36 posted on 04/30/2014 10:27:48 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: DBCJR

If you can afford your car, you can keep your car.


37 posted on 05/01/2014 12:25:28 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: denydenydeny

And even if the bike paths, mass transit, streetscapes and all the other rot were taken out of the gas-tax supported HIGHWAY fund, 18.4 cents/gallon would still not be enough to support what needs to be done, thanks to inflation and increased fuel mileage (thanks, CAFE). So you can either raise the gas tax, or simply eliminate it and the highway fund and return all responsibility for transportation to the states.

Of course, you might want a remnant gas tax of a few cents a gallon to pay off all the GARVEE bonds states have issued to build transportation projects.


38 posted on 05/01/2014 2:02:10 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: DBCJR

...but a local towns speed trap, ticketing over 75 mph was struck down? Hardeyville, SC.


39 posted on 05/01/2014 3:57:01 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DBCJR

Taking a Toll: Administration wants to let states charge on interstate highways

No, No, No and NO!


40 posted on 05/01/2014 4:54:20 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We already pay federal gas taxes to do that and we also pay state taxes to maintain the highways. So now we must pay tolls on roads that we built using our taxes. This is just another tax. We are being taxed to death.


41 posted on 05/01/2014 1:18:48 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kiryandil

Highway trust fund will be broke in August
http://www.examiner.com/article/highway-trust-fund-will-be-broke-august
but look at all those choo choo trains and bike paths!


42 posted on 05/01/2014 2:50:47 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Highway Trust Fund: Not Just For Highways, Out Of Money So Not A Fund, And Can't Be Trusted

This system is based on two fundamental principles: Federalism and the principle of benefits. Both come to us from the founders. President Eisenhower started this program because he learned as an officer that the US road system fell far short of the needs for logistical purposes in fighting a war, so he proposed that, since national defense was a federal — not state — function, a national trust would be created which would be entrusted to use gas taxes only for the purpose of an interstate highway system. It was to be based on gas taxes and tolls to conform with the principle of benefits as presented by Adam Smith in the Wealth of Nations published in 1776.

It no longer functions that way. It has become a congressional slush fund, in which almost half the money is ladled out through the corrupt system of congressional earmarks. The next time you drive on a highway which is named after a politician, think corruption.

Time to shut it down. The proceeds of the tax should be automatically remitted to state governments, or better yet, regional planning agencies. And regulatory barriers to privatization strategies should be repealed. We’re broke. We can no longer afford to be stupid.

43 posted on 05/01/2014 3:30:21 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

I actually read that one. Not a bad option. It leaves the Congressional subhumans out of the debate entirely. :-)


44 posted on 05/01/2014 7:02:46 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: DBCJR

Transportation Empowerment Act
Introduced by U.S. Rep. Tom Graves & U.S. Sen. Mike Lee

http://tomgraves.house.gov/tea/
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/104/hr3840/text
TEA: Learn it, love it, live it.


45 posted on 07/16/2014 3:17:29 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: DBCJR

” Not one dime”_ President Barack Obama on raising taxes, if you make less than $200,000 a year.


46 posted on 07/16/2014 3:24:30 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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