Skip to comments.Archaeologists find 'lost' medieval village... [Scotland]
Posted on 05/01/2014 12:13:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
German and Dutch pots, jugs and mugs, coins including an American cent, spindles, a sheep skull and horse teeth have been found by archaeologists digging in the Scottish Borders, where doors integrated into walls have revealed a lost Medieval village of families, farmyards and hearths.
Between Edinburgh and the Northumberland National Park, the outskirts of Selkirk have previously been associated with the Battle of Philiphaugh, a 1645 victory for the Scottish Covenanter Army against their under-strength Royalist enemies...
A pipeline-laying project by Scottish Water, though, has found stone brick structures including two pivot stones, used as hinges for doors between the 14th and 16th centuries but turned into cobbling after their buildings were demolished.
Four coins, stone counters for games, burnt clay and fired fragments were also found...
The radiocarbon dates confirm activity in the period from 1472 to 1645. Although the artefacts were recovered from the lower plough soil rather than sealed archaeological contexts, they too support a late 15th to 17th century date.
Two pottery sherds from stoneware bottles, or possibly drinking mugs imported from Germany or Belgium, would date to that period. A fragment of a clay tobacco pipe identifies the maker as James Colquhoun, who manufactured pipes in Glasgow between 1660 and 1680.
These artefacts also suggest that manufactured goods were being traded from the cities to the rural areas of Scotland.
(Excerpt) Read more at culture24.org.uk ...
Documentary research suggested a range of buildings were spread over a large area along the river Tweed © Guard Archaeology Ltd
So after Shakespeare and the Kings James Bible era and countless written sources we need to unearth a few coins and trinkets to tell us about life there??? Next they’ll be digging around Liverpool to tell us about the Beatles.
Medieval? The medieval period began around 476 AD and ended around 1450-1492 AD. This hamlet is a little old to be labeled medieval. What ARE they teaching inschools nowadays?
Medieval? The medieval period began around 476 AD and ended around 1450-1492 AD.
Uh, looks like Medieval Times to me.
Sherd = shard. I had to look that one up.
Most written sources give no real sense of how people actually lived. You only get that sense by examining where they lived and the objects they used in daily life.
coins including an American cent,
Obviously dropped by some wayward time traveler....
coins including an American centPrior to 1645?
The English butchered the original Scot language. The English wreck everything.
I thought that too, but then figured it was probably a village established in the medieval era but was still inhabited in the 1600’s, qualifying it as medieval.
1472 - 1645 is just after the medieval period, not during. This, iirc, was the Tudor and Elizabethan period.
I considered that, but nothing from the article suggests they’ve found anything from the years cited. The simplest explanation is the writer didn’t know history and just tossed the term “medieval” in on his own.
Edit on my previos post: “they didn’t find anything PRIOR to the years cited...”
1472 to 1645 would be “Renaissance”, not “Medieval”.
Of course, the remote location could have made life there “seem” Medieval.
JMO...I am not an Archaeologist. Just a Humble Bass Player...what do I know?
Personally, I think of 476 AD as pre-Medieval, and part of the Dark Ages.
***The radiocarbon dates confirm activity in the period from 1472 to 1645. **
Ending in the Plague years.
Yeah, my take on the headline was that it was still a working village that had been overlooked in the modern era.
Good idea, and that might account for all memory of the town having been lost.
‘In 1350, there was a great pestilence and mortality of men in the kingdom of Scotland, and this pestilence also raged for many years before and after in various parts of the world.’
Scotichronicon, John of Fordun
“...Most written sources give no real sense of how people actually lived. You only get that sense by examining where they lived and the objects they used in daily life...”
“Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins[a] and loses one. Doesnt she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it?”
Obviously you’ve never been to Scotland. [ducks, runs]
You play a bass?!? You should switch to something more musical, like bagpipes! ;’)
Turns out that Brigadoon didn’t really vanish and then reappear, the witnesses were just drunk.
American Colonial Penny image search:
Steeleye Span - Parcel of Rogues
When posting this topic, I put both terms into the keywords.
Okay, so, I hadn’t actually done it yet, turns out that was a slightly earlier topic.
Whoops, sorry, missed you.
Is that the one with President Jefferson Davis on it?
The ‘Silian 3’ stone was discovered by chance alongside a stream in the Welsh village of Silian.
So, did the ancient Scots actually invent Communism???
What is the difference between a lawn mower and a bagpipe?
You can tune a lawn mower!
(Disclaimer: I am ON the Official FR Bagpipe Ping List! LOL!
It is a low volume ping list for a hig volume instrument.)
Ah, thanks, maybe another topic in the offing.
You paint with a wide brush, sir.
What’s the difference between bagpipes and an onion?
Nobody cries when you chop up bagpipes.
Maybe it was just the coin that time traveled, someone cent it back in time.
He He He...
I have some pics of Pipers in the wind.
They can’t be posted on FR.
I was being a wee bit sarcastic.
But none as early as the article mentions.
“Lad, I don’t know where you’ve been, but I see you’ve won first prize...”
Coinage from the Americas earlier than 1700 is rare; early examples (I’ve got a 3 cent coin around here somewhere) are hard to find even online. Coin collectors have become wary of doing that, because an online photo can be used to create a convincing fake. The Spanish Real was a popular denomination, and the term “two bits” (still in use today referring to a US quarter dollar coin) derives from the practice of cutting a Real into 8 bits (”pieces of 8”); the Real remained legal currency in the US until 1857.
It’s not well known, and I’m sure it’s not taught in school, but the US gov’t didn’t get serious about having a national currency until not long before the Civil War. Around here, and probably everywhere on the frontier, we had “wildcat banks”, which issued their own currency, and were audited by state (or territorial) authorities, to make sure they had sufficient specie (gold and/or silver) in their safe/vault to back their scrip.
Or as they say in England, “keep your pecker up”.
Yep. As best I know our first coins were minted after 1780.
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