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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 18 MAY 2, 2014
Free Republic | 5/2/2014 | greeneyes

Posted on 05/02/2014 12:25:41 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks.

No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


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Greetings from Missouri. After a few days of spring weather we are back to very cool days and nights, and gloomy skys with little to no sun. sigh

On the brighter side, we have avoided the damaging storms that have been hitting all around us so far, so we are thankful for that.

I am continuing to plant according to my schedule, but indoors instead of outdoors. Learned my lesson last year. The weather has to be right. First batch of corn is beginning to sprout indoors.

Hope everyone is doing well, staying safe from the storms, and having good luck with your gardens. Have a great weekend. God Bless.

1 posted on 05/02/2014 12:25:41 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; HossB86; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the List.


2 posted on 05/02/2014 12:28:07 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Here’s a link to a nice article by the University of Mo. on Making and Using Compost, for those who may be interested.

http://extension.missouri.edu/p/G6956


3 posted on 05/02/2014 12:31:58 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Got the replacement tomato plants in the ground today. That only puts me a month behind schedule. Peppers won't be ready to go in the ground for another 2 weeks or so. That last freeze certainly messed things up.

/johnny

4 posted on 05/02/2014 12:35:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The weather has been a major factor this year all over, it seems. The only thing that I have that is on schedule is the potatoes.


5 posted on 05/02/2014 12:36:46 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

The sun came out this am and I get to mow grass today. The front part of the yard is almost done... I have 3 acres to mow.

Strawberries in full bloom and unless something weather wise changes for the ‘bad’ for strawberries, I should have a bumper crop. Of course can’t count blooms as produce. So we shall see what the next couple of weeks brings weather wise.

I have planted all the early veggies, and they for the most part have survived the cold and very wet conditions.

Back to the lawn mowing.


6 posted on 05/02/2014 12:38:10 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: greeneyes

Found a tropical plant store in St Pete that had three of the plants I’ve been looking for, Bay Laurel (Bay Leaves), Kaffir Lime (leaves used in Thai recipes) and Tea.


7 posted on 05/02/2014 12:49:57 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (Is it any wonder I'm not the president?)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Got the replacement tomato plants in the ground today.

Sorry to hear that Johnny. I'm down in your beautiful and warm state visiting right now from just outside of KC. My tomatoes went in 10 days ago and I just missed a frost yesterday, according to my daughter. I had replacements, but now it looks like the neighbors get them.

8 posted on 05/02/2014 12:52:27 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: greeneyes; Marcella; rightly_dividing; JRandomFreeper

Weather’s been cool the last several days, but it’s supposed to heat up again next week. I have little buds on my Tromboncino Squash that look like females, but I haven’t seen any males. Hope I get flowers for both at the same time. I have two dinky cucuzza plants, and ten that aren’t up.
I have lots of green tomatoes-lemon boys, romas, yellow pear, tycoon, valley cat, and mystery tomatoes. Lots of lettuce, and swiss chard. I pulled up the non productive brussels sprouts. My gypsy peppers are loaded with blooms, and I need to transplant mucho nachos out of the greenhouse.
Also, armenian cukes and two more tromboncinos, and a bunch of zinnias. My Pentas are stil the size of pin heads. My ginger root I planted from the grocery store is starting to get growth above ground, as well as the roots. My potatoes have lots of top growth, not so much underground. I think I overwatered them.

I need to mow the yard, and my water bill was 86 dollars. We need rain. That is all from the TX Hill Country.


9 posted on 05/02/2014 12:53:08 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: greeneyes

Potatoes grow in mostly chilly places.

With all the cow flatus causing globull warming, I am surprised you can get them to grow for you! hehehe


10 posted on 05/02/2014 1:00:05 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Starstruck
I started about 70 tomato plants so that I could have 22 that actually made it to the big garden and grew. ;)

/johnny

11 posted on 05/02/2014 1:04:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: sockmonkey
They are saying 95F for Sunday. The peppers should appreciate that.

I keep the water bill low with lots of mulch, and only using drip irrigation. That, and stored rain water. I hand water a lot. I have more time than money.

The potatoes in the compost towers are doing great. I look forward to seeing how the harvest goes.

/johnny

12 posted on 05/02/2014 1:07:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes
Here in eastern NC, we have a crop of radishes ready to pick, and we're about to start in on the buttercrunch lettuce. We've already picked some asparagus, with promise of more to come. The spring kale has popped up nicely too.

My youngest daughter is Queen of the Garden, and radishes are her special favorite. She's very proud of them.

13 posted on 05/02/2014 1:13:17 PM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I started about 70 tomato plants so that I could have 22 that actually made it to the big garden and grew

I understand but I start thinking about that first BLT with home grown tomatoes around Thanksgiving. Mid July is usually the date I get it but this year I'm hoping for the end of June. I hope the pigs keep their end of the bargain.

14 posted on 05/02/2014 1:23:08 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Just mythoughts

We have less to mow every year, as we continue to plant fruit or nut trees, berry bushes, and new garden plots.

We also keep a couple of corners as “wild” uncultivated areas. We have blooms, but no berries formed yet. One of our warmer springs, we did have a few that ripened in mid May.


15 posted on 05/02/2014 1:24:39 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: sockmonkey; greeneyes; Marcella

It’s been very nice cool, low humidity all week, but no rain. It’s so dry I got Scooter stuck in the sand in the backyard, but I knew that was coming, I had been slip sliding through the sand for a week.

Where we are from, Southern Al and Ms got around 20-24inches of rain. There are still roads closed from the flood damage. One area in an adjacent county had 7ft of water in some low lying homes.

I woke up one morning this week to what I thought was squirrels on the roof, but it turned out to be buzzards, 4 on the roof, 4 on the gazebo roof and about 25-35 more in the yard and street. They just ignored the pups barking, but when I pitched a rock at the roof and hit the rain gutter and made a loud noise all flew at once and not been back. We do see lots of them overhead all the time, for some reason.

The maters in the GLG are blooming big time, but no maters still. The 2 in the RCG are growing like crazy but no blooms, but the peppers in the containers next to them are blooming, as are my ghost peppers, which are root bound and needing bigger pots.

Wife’s zennias are a foot tall or so it looks from the window. All her other flowers, annuals, are blooming, but none of the perennials yet, except for lilies. The ferns are beginning to make a comeback from the ice storm, as are a few of the larger container plants in the patio area.

That’s it from the north side of town, Marcella will report on the conditions on the in-town area, I’m sure.


16 posted on 05/02/2014 1:28:47 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter)
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To: Darth Reardon

I use Bay leaves all the time in cooking especially soups. I don’t think that our weather would allow us to grow it here though. They are hard to find, so congrats.


17 posted on 05/02/2014 1:29:31 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Starstruck

My wife was speaking just yesterday at supper of having a mater and mayo sandwich with a glass of tea as soon as we get some maters ripe. I like mine plain, sliced and on a plate with pepper. I can easily eat two large ones per day in the season.


18 posted on 05/02/2014 1:34:20 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter)
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To: sockmonkey

After your cucuzza success, I couldn’t stand the suspense - emptied out my two cups and looked to see if the seeds had any sign of germination. Nada. So, I now have two new seeds soaking (will soak for much longer than 12 hours) and then they’ll go in that warm window sill right away. Maybe I’ll get lucky with the second try although I’m not sure where I’ll put them if they do germinate since they are such climbers & I already have the two Trombettas. It would be a “nice” problem to have!

Plenty of rain our way .... April showers bring May flowers ... and as of yesterday, clouds of gnats ... UGH!


19 posted on 05/02/2014 1:36:30 PM PDT by Qiviut (Obama: A Caesar at home & a Chamberlain abroad, dividing the country & uniting the world against us.)
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To: sockmonkey

Well you have a pretty good bunch of plants going. The potatoes won’t even have small new potatoes until they have blooms. Potatoes also need lots of organic material in the soil.

If you get lush green plants with no blooms, then you nitrogen ratio to other nutrients may be off.


20 posted on 05/02/2014 1:39:05 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: left that other site

Globull warming has been avoiding us lately. We are experiencing record cold, and seem more likely to be entering an ice age here.LOL


21 posted on 05/02/2014 1:40:18 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Quick!

Eat some Beans!


22 posted on 05/02/2014 1:41:32 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: greeneyes

Are there any Amish stores in your part of Mo?

We use a lot of bay leaves, too. We buy them in bulk from Amish stores or other bulk suppliers, where they are so much cheaper than grocery store prices. Same for chili powder and cumin.


23 posted on 05/02/2014 1:41:47 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter)
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To: Oberon

That’s so great that your daughter likes to garden. It will be knowledge that serves her well.


24 posted on 05/02/2014 1:41:47 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rightly_dividing

Buzzards??? Maybe looking for water or wild life dying from lack of water? Never seen a real buzzard.

Stress sometimes helps plants produce fruit.(Desperate to propogate)LOL.

What’s the GLG? I can’t remember.


25 posted on 05/02/2014 1:47:49 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Starstruck
2 things that I rely on out of my garden are tomatoes and jalapenos. I'll need to can at least 2 gallons of japs to get me through until next year.

/johnny

26 posted on 05/02/2014 1:47:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Qiviut
After your cucuzza success, I couldn’t stand the suspense - emptied out my two cups and looked to see if the seeds had any sign of germination.

I did that, too with the first batch I planted..of which two of six are up.. Those seed cases are hard as a rock. It took the first one forever for the leaves to work the brown seed case off. I thought it was a clump of hardened dirt. On the second one, I pried it off..probably not good to do, but it's still alive, and the leaves are greening up. I know they say not to keep the soil wet, but I have it on the soggy side of moist right now.

27 posted on 05/02/2014 1:48:09 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: rightly_dividing
So far, cumin has beaten me for 3 years running. They start ok, get about an inch tall, and evaporate. I'll keep trying.

/johnny

28 posted on 05/02/2014 1:50:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rightly_dividing

I love those blts. I made a BLT wrap(lower fat kind). I used the lower fat cut of bacon-just one strip, and a soft tortilla.

Spread the tortilla with lite mayo, put the bacon in the middle, and warmed in the micro wave. Then sprinkled with a little cheese, dice up my two ripe homegrown cherry tomatoes, and some shredded lettuce, and rolled it up.

Fastened with toothpicks, and sliced into half inch slices.


29 posted on 05/02/2014 1:52:43 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
My chief purpose in keeping a garden for the last fifteen years or so has been so that the kids would know how to raise vegetables.

You never know when that kind of knowledge may come in handy.

30 posted on 05/02/2014 2:01:14 PM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: greeneyes

Planted most of my sets in empty shrub pots set into the ground. Drilled holes in bottoms for drainage and (hopefully) root growth.

Plan is that Mr. Gopher will only be able to gnaw up to the plastic.

Last year lost many to gopher and others to the cursed tomato worm.


31 posted on 05/02/2014 2:03:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: left that other site

every day for the fiber.


32 posted on 05/02/2014 2:03:18 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Good Stuff! :-)


33 posted on 05/02/2014 2:05:35 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: rightly_dividing

Not sure. We have an Amish Deli about 40 miles away. Noot sure if they have groceries too.


34 posted on 05/02/2014 2:05:44 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; Marcella

The GLC is the Ground Level Garden, which Marcella calls her dirt garden.

the buzzards had a dead armadillo in the street, but were just hanging out after the meal was over.

The water table is high even with the lack of rain. We have a spring in the front yard by the street that will dry up when it gets really dry. We have a small stream(4-5ft wide) along the bottom of the dune on one side plus, it flows into a much larger creek about 1/8mile in front of us in the woods(Sam Houston National Forrest) so the critters have plenty of water.


35 posted on 05/02/2014 2:11:28 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter)
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To: Oberon

We have been entertaining some of the grandkids with the same. Took them to tour some of the organic farms around here too. Showed them how to skim the cream off the milk, and make butter etc.


36 posted on 05/02/2014 2:11:28 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Missouri

Dutch Country Store
18268 Kelsay Road
Barnett, MO
Phone: (573) 378-4395

H & M Country Store
21910 State Hwy 190
Jamesport, Mo

Dutch Kountry Market
10117 Knob Knoster Road
Knob Knoster, MO
Phone (660) 563-2941

Hall’s
Rt. 6 Box 872
Salem, MO
Phone: (826) 776-3275

Zimmerman’s Wholesale
RR 1 Box 1
Rutledge, MO 63563
Phone: (660) 883-5766

Windmill Ridge Bulk Foods
4100 Highway T
Shelbyville, MO 63469
Phone: (573) 633-1020

Dutch Maid Bulk Foods
17567 Hwy 71
St. Joseph, MO
Phone: (816) 279-8712

Camps Market, Inc.
13157 Hwy 52
Versailles, MO
Phone: (573) 378-4395

Weaver’s Country Market
13920 Market Rd.
Versailles, MO 65084
Phone: (573) 378-4672
Website: http://www.weaverscountrymarket.com/

Schrock’s Country Store
26998 Highway 65
Warsaw, MO 65355
Phone: (660) 438-0019

Kuntry Bulk Grocery
1274 Northeast 1031
Windsor, MO


37 posted on 05/02/2014 2:13:25 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter)
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To: BenLurkin

Hope it works. My garden is small enough that I can usually protect my tomatoes, by pulling off the worm, and cutting him in half/squashing under my boot heel on the concrete.


38 posted on 05/02/2014 2:13:57 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

That blt wrap sounds good, but your cherry maters make it into the house? We thought they were appetizers while picking large maters.

Wife make tortilla wraps with cream cheese and various items and sliced, also.


39 posted on 05/02/2014 2:23:23 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter)
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To: rightly_dividing

These Cherry Tomatoes never left the house. They are the only homegrown tomatoes available here at this time of the year, so one has to savor what one has.LOL


40 posted on 05/02/2014 2:26:16 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rightly_dividing

Thanks. I don’t recognize all the names, so I’ll have to check them out. Most of the ones I do know, are about 2 plus hours away.


41 posted on 05/02/2014 2:27:31 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rightly_dividing

Ok. Got it GLG. I figured those buzzards must have had a carcass somewhere.


42 posted on 05/02/2014 2:29:52 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Oberon
Good skill to have. Lots of 'preppers' are going to starve when they realize that those open-pollinated seeds require real skill-sets to turn into food.

/johnny

43 posted on 05/02/2014 2:31:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rightly_dividing
My wife was speaking just yesterday at supper of having a mater and mayo sandwich with a glass of tea as soon as we get some maters ripe. I like mine plain, sliced and on a plate with pepper. I can easily eat two large ones per day in the season.

Oh don't get me wrong. I love homegrown tomatoes on everything. Salads, cheese and tomato sandwich. Tomato, lettuce and mayo. Hamburgers. Gyros. But BLTs are my nectar of the gods when it comes to tomatoes.

44 posted on 05/02/2014 2:35:40 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: greeneyes

Weaver’s has a webpage.


45 posted on 05/02/2014 2:36:19 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter)
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To: Starstruck

—But BLTs are my nectar of the gods when it comes to tomatoes.—

I’ll have to remember “nectar of the gods”

I haven’t had a blt in many years, since I quit lettuce, but bt sammies are good, too.


46 posted on 05/02/2014 2:45:49 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter)
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To: JRandomFreeper
2 things that I rely on out of my garden are tomatoes and jalapenos. I'll need to can at least 2 gallons of japs to get me through until next year.

I recently retired and the one thing I will miss is taking heirloom tomatoes, jalapenos, tomatatoes, cilantro, lime juice, etc. and chips to work and watch people become absolute addicts to salsa.

47 posted on 05/02/2014 2:47:18 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: JRandomFreeper; All

I took your advice and grew some replacement tomatoes and peppers. Unlike you it seems I didn’t grow quite enough in reserve for comfort level plus I was a little dumb and hasty in transplanting a few too small plants especially those slow growing peppers. Still have a scant tiny few in reserve and they are hardly growing out of their sprout stage but I have them outside in the warm sun now so here’s hoping they have a growth spurt and in the ground they will go then.


48 posted on 05/02/2014 2:51:32 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Starstruck

Careful...my addiction to salsa led to planting 400 varieties of tomatoes and 30 or so varieties of super-hot peppers in just a few short years. I’m not sure what happened...


49 posted on 05/02/2014 2:53:00 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: greeneyes

Always interested in composting. Thank you!


50 posted on 05/02/2014 3:00:11 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (Mind your atomic bonds.)
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