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Neanderthals may have been ‘as intelligent’ as humans, scientists say
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8:17PM BST 01 May 2014 | Neil Murphy

Posted on 05/02/2014 2:05:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai

New research has undermined the popular belief that Neanderthals were less intelligent than Homo sapiens, and challenges the widely-held view they were forced into extinction by modern humans.

Many experts have suggested humans’ advanced culture and hunting ability caused Neanderthals to disappear from Europe over 30,000 years ago. …

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: antediluvian; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; intelligence; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; nephilim

1 posted on 05/02/2014 2:05:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

They were probably smarter.


2 posted on 05/02/2014 2:06:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

I disagree. Just look at Nancy Pelosi. Neanderthals were stupider than humans.


3 posted on 05/02/2014 2:07:17 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Olog-hai

Uh, the “Neanderthal Man” is a hoax right?


4 posted on 05/02/2014 2:08:09 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Olog-hai

Did they find a copy of a Paleo Encyclopedia?


5 posted on 05/02/2014 2:08:50 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Olog-hai
No evidence they were a different species than homo-sapiens.
Like southeast Asians appear different from western Europeans, they are the same species.
6 posted on 05/02/2014 2:10:47 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: BenLurkin
They were probably smarter.

Different kind of smart, I reckon.

Not innovative so much as adaptive.

7 posted on 05/02/2014 2:12:45 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: GeronL
it was splattered in a cave in Southern France..
the French have never recovered.

8 posted on 05/02/2014 2:13:55 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? :-)
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To: Olog-hai

There’s a theory that we already had a prehistoric “idiocracy” that wiped out the neanderthals.

The theory says they were more intelligent, spiritual and monogamous creatures who were defeated by savage homo sapiens who kept breeding/consuming/fighting like monkeys.

The theory also says more advanced cultures/races have a higher percentage of neanderthal DNA.


9 posted on 05/02/2014 2:14:43 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah. That is why they had cell phones and the internet...


10 posted on 05/02/2014 2:16:09 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American - Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

lol


11 posted on 05/02/2014 2:19:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: BenLurkin

“They were probably smarter”

And the Denisovans were good at math...


12 posted on 05/02/2014 2:19:35 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Olog-hai

Really, this is a stupid what-if debate. There’s only one way to tell—clone a few from bone DNA. If they feel lonely, clone some mammoths. If not... turn ‘em loose.


13 posted on 05/02/2014 2:20:27 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Olog-hai

These same scientists cannot even tell you how intelligent you are, or your neighbor is.

TC


14 posted on 05/02/2014 2:22:01 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: BenLurkin

They saw a nasty liberal streak developing in humans and built a spaceship and left.


15 posted on 05/02/2014 2:22:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Olog-hai

At last. It’s OK to be Neanderthal.


16 posted on 05/02/2014 2:22:54 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Olog-hai

True, they didn’t vote democrap.


17 posted on 05/02/2014 2:24:11 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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Neanderthals may have been wiped out due to INTERBREEDING and not because of a lack of intelligence
Daily Mail | 29 April 2014 | JONATHAN O’CALLAGHAN
Posted on 4/29/2014 9:49:50 PM by Fractal Trader
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3150207/posts


18 posted on 05/02/2014 2:39:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks Olog-hai.
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

19 posted on 05/02/2014 2:40:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Neither did anyone have that prior to 30 years ago.


20 posted on 05/02/2014 2:41:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Olog-hai

Every time I hear or read the words “scientists say,” my skepticism peaks.


21 posted on 05/02/2014 2:46:58 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Yeah. That is why they had cell phones and the internet...

Neither did the Founding Fathers.

They were pretty stupid, huh?

22 posted on 05/02/2014 2:52:53 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Olog-hai
It depends on how one defines “intelligence”.I don't recall ever having seen evidence of a 747 in 12,000BC.
23 posted on 05/02/2014 3:08:08 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Olog-hai
I totally believe this


24 posted on 05/02/2014 3:31:40 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Melowese Richardson - Democrat Vote Fraud Expert)
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To: Olog-hai
"...forced into extinction" or did they merely go "off planet"?
25 posted on 05/02/2014 3:41:06 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: PapaNew
Piltdown Man was a hoax.

Neanderthals are not a hoax. Numerous fossils have been found at many sites in Europe and the Middle East. The question is whether they are part of our species or a different species of humanity. Their genus is Homo so they are "human" whether or not they belong to Homo sapiens.

26 posted on 05/02/2014 3:51:51 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
You may be right, but I'm not convinced.

"Missing link" "evidence" always turns out to be a fraud and a hoax. And I think the "Neanderthal Man " is supposed to be evidence of the non-existent "missing link", mas non?

27 posted on 05/02/2014 3:58:27 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Olog-hai

The main thing you have to remember, they ain’t here and we are.

Gives the academics something to Chase grants for, but in the end all the Neanderthals that ever lived are dead.


28 posted on 05/02/2014 4:02:11 PM PDT by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: PapaNew

God created man in his image from the getgo, anything else is a hoax. That’s the short answer.


29 posted on 05/02/2014 4:32:01 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: SunkenCiv

They’re really giving phrenology a run for the money, eh?


30 posted on 05/02/2014 4:51:27 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Olog-hai

"Dude ..."

31 posted on 05/02/2014 5:49:02 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Olog-hai
"their demise was clearly more complex than many archaeology-based scenarios of 'cognitive inferiority'"

They were doing just fine until they adopted a liberal-progressive government and forgot how to reproduce.
32 posted on 05/02/2014 11:37:43 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: 1010RD

A bump on the head may be quite continental...


33 posted on 05/03/2014 5:01:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: PapaNew

False.


34 posted on 05/03/2014 5:02:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Your response not too informative, kinda vague.


35 posted on 05/03/2014 8:16:05 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Olog-hai

"That is so condescending."

36 posted on 05/03/2014 8:18:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai
Neanderthal Man by Hotlegs, later to become 10cc
37 posted on 05/03/2014 8:21:05 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: VeniVidiVici

That does not compute. UNC is Carolina blue. Blue, as a pigment, and cavemen do not match.


38 posted on 05/03/2014 8:35:23 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Scoutmaster

LOL!


39 posted on 05/03/2014 10:55:03 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Melowese Richardson - Democrat Vote Fraud Expert)
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To: VeniVidiVici; Tax-chick; Monkey Face; Darksheare; null and void; no-to-illegals; ...
Active thread hijack.

The history of blue pigment is almost certainly the most fascinating story of any pigment. Subject of many academic studies and non-fiction books, a part of art history. Even a key element in one of Christopher Moore's warped books, Sacre Bleu: A Comedy d'Art (combine (a) the death of Vincent van Gogh, (b) ribald fact-based fiction about the French Impressionists, (c) the sacredness, scarcity, and history of blue pigment, (d) evil incarnate, and (e) all the warped comedy Christopher Moore can bring).

No blue at Lascaux.

The Virgin Mary's blue mantle (431?), and 10th and 14th red mantle (not at all well-versed here). IIRC, unfinished Renaissance portraits of the Virgin Mary because of the unavailability and cost of ultramarine blue. Blue in an atom of a nutshell: Blue Through the Centuries: Sacred and Sought After.

I read a lot on the subject (Google: history of blue pigment) about two years ago, including parts of art and pigment history books, but I'm an infant on the subject Blue. It's fascinating.

40 posted on 05/03/2014 11:34:24 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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