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Hall of Famers believe gay player will be accepted
Associated Press ^ | May 3, 2014 5:28 PM EDT | Tom Withers

Posted on 05/03/2014 2:33:00 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Once Michael Sam is drafted in the NFL, the Missouri defensive end will be judged strictly on whether he can play and whether he can help his team win.

Everything else—even that he’s gay—will be trivial.

As the first openly homosexual player to enter the draft, Sam could face scrutiny unlike any player before him. But many of the greatest players and coaches in football history don’t believe he’ll be subjected to any hatred, harassment, discrimination or bullying by teammates.

“I don’t think he’ll have any problem in the locker room. I don't think he’ll have any problems on the field,” said Hall of Fame offensive tackle Art Shell. “The one thing about football players, they’re inclusive. They will take you for who you are, not what people try to portray you as.” …

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: artshell; enough; halloffame; homosexualagenda; inourfaces; lavendermafia; michaelsam; nfl

1 posted on 05/03/2014 2:33:00 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

He’s an automatic hall-of-fame inductee.


2 posted on 05/03/2014 2:35:53 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Olog-hai

Hall of flamers?


3 posted on 05/03/2014 2:36:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Olog-hai

What else are they going to say, given the current state of politics and the press?


4 posted on 05/03/2014 2:36:58 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Olog-hai

They DARE NOT say otherwise, lest any hope of ever working in the media again is destroyed.

Welcome to the New Fascism...


5 posted on 05/03/2014 2:37:18 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Olog-hai

The two big rules of sports. 1. Do your job. 2. Don’t be a distraction.


6 posted on 05/03/2014 2:38:44 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Olog-hai

Not sure if we can post AP photos here.

Tom Withers:

http://collegebasketball.ap.org/author/tom-withers


7 posted on 05/03/2014 2:40:10 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Olog-hai
This is all part of the ongoing destruction of the NFL.

I predict the league will be defunct by 2025.

8 posted on 05/03/2014 2:42:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (100% pure organic, free-range conservative)
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To: Olog-hai
“I don’t think he’ll have any problem in the locker room."

Uuhhh... Ok.

The author should go bathe with faggots and continue the narrative.

"Oh, thorry! It'th an involuntary reaction! You thilly!"

9 posted on 05/03/2014 2:50:31 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Olog-hai

Don’t care. Don’t care. Don’t care.

in other news...


10 posted on 05/03/2014 3:04:45 PM PDT by Walrus (I love the America that used to be ---I hate the America that now IS!)
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To: Olog-hai

Judas Priest! Enough is enough! We’re more focused on homos than homers.


11 posted on 05/03/2014 3:09:28 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Olog-hai

Even been in a pile when about 7-8 players are scrambling for a loose ball? ( no pun intended)...they kick, punch, gouge.... you know someone’s gonna grab him by the cojones and squeeze..


12 posted on 05/03/2014 4:03:56 PM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: Cicero

A homosexual AP writer writing an article about homosexual athletes and how they will be embraced by homosexual fans living in the homosexual fantasy land.


13 posted on 05/03/2014 4:04:28 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Darren McCarty
The two big rules of sports. 1. Do your job. 2. Don’t be a distraction.

3. No Pooftahs.

14 posted on 05/03/2014 4:04:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
3. No Pooftahs.

Too right, Bruce. Isn't that right Bruce, Bruce, Bruce, Bruce and Bruce?

15 posted on 05/03/2014 4:07:18 PM PDT by ssaftler (I am both ashamed and afraid of my government, Federal AND State. Local not far behind...)
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To: windsorknot
Judas Priest! Enough is enough!

Judas Priest, didn't they have a gay lead singer?

16 posted on 05/03/2014 4:08:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

If I were an owner I wouldn’t go near him. After what happened in the NBA it isn’t worth the gamble.


17 posted on 05/03/2014 4:13:46 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: dfwgator
Judas Priest, didn't they have a gay lead singer?

Could be. Gay players are the rage.

18 posted on 05/03/2014 4:15:06 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Olog-hai

If he hasn’t even played in the NFL yet, why on earth are they talking about the Hall of Fame?


19 posted on 05/03/2014 4:15:49 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Olog-hai

Anyone who doesn’t accept him will be promptly destroyed by the league, which is in cahoots with the pink mafia. I would expect acceptance as long as he can play - wouldn’t want to shower with him though.


20 posted on 05/03/2014 4:38:56 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Olog-hai

The hall of fame of the sport with the players who break out the fruitiest celebratory dances and gyrations should have gays accepted with no problem. I mean it’s already the flamboyance and glitz league, they stop their biggest game of the year half way through for massive demonstrations of glitz and vapidity. And that HOF is already messed up due to the mandatory minimum inducted every year.

Freegards


21 posted on 05/03/2014 4:41:55 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: windsorknot

Judas Priest! Enough is enough!
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That is a pretty decent Branch Rickey impersonation. <= <= <=


22 posted on 05/03/2014 5:02:20 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) --"On occasion, nothing said says a lot more than saying something".)
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To: Ransomed

And that HOF is already messed up due to the mandatory minimum inducted every year.
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Sort of waters down the intent now doesn’t it.

Like ‘kids’ tournaments that may have more than 12 teams in it will have a WINNERS bracket and LOSERS bracket.

Maybe give them an ‘extra’ game or two BUT trophies are awarded to the winner etc of the LOSERS bracket, SO, in essence, placing 2nd in the WINNERS bracket is ‘worse’ than winning the LOSERS bracket.


23 posted on 05/03/2014 5:09:24 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) --"On occasion, nothing said says a lot more than saying something".)
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To: Olog-hai

If he isn’t drafted number 1 it’s obvious because of racism. /s


24 posted on 05/03/2014 5:22:51 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t watch TV or movies with gay characters, and I will have the same policy for sports. I don’t want to hear about anyone’s sex life, especially not a pervert.


25 posted on 05/03/2014 5:40:41 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: xrmusn

If the NFL wasn’t so obnoxious I wouldn’t care about getting so many of them in so fast, it’s a sport where you get used up fast, let them enjoy/potentially make something from it some while they can, especially the guys who didn’t get paid like now. But bottom line there is a reason the baseball hall is pretty much the only HOF that matters, even for all its flaws.

Freegards


26 posted on 05/03/2014 5:50:54 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Olog-hai

Sam is a marginal, one-dimensional NFL prospect...the league will make sure he’s selected, likely by a team with a left wing owner (Patriots or Steelers) and is kept on a roster for at least one season....

mark it down....


27 posted on 05/03/2014 6:01:15 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Ransomed

let them enjoy/potentially make something from it some while they can,
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Agree as to that perspective but watering stuff down now - like hero — A cop in a city where ordinary citizens can’t have weapons is called a ‘hero’ for taking out a criminal in the open and gets awards for ‘doing his job’.
“Make sure I get home tonight” is a good thing but being used in a context that makes it seem very self serving.

As to my ‘losers bracket’ analogy -
at least any kids ‘associated’ with me know that 2nd in the top 8 is a helluva lot better than #9 and ‘scoff’ at the idea of losers bracket trophies/ribbons or ANY kind of recognition.....


28 posted on 05/03/2014 6:18:33 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) --"On occasion, nothing said says a lot more than saying something".)
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To: xrmusn

No, your analogy is pretty spot on I would say. I think a lot of folks are catching on to the whole ‘everyone is special for being not as good’ thing.

My biggest problem with the NFL is that the nature of the modern game itself insures that the cool players can’t police the mouthbreathers who break out the chest slapping and gyrating dance moves after falling on a loose ball. There’s a reason no one makes a choke sign to the pitcher after drawing a walk. No one wants 90mph+ in the eye socket, much less anywhere else.

Freegards


29 posted on 05/03/2014 6:31:36 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

No one wants 90mph+ in the eye socket, much less anywhere else.
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When one mentions that the TD dance etal is not only ridiculous but quite foolish (John Riggins —I don’t have a dance because you should act like you have been here before and will be there again).

I even think the ‘after game’ celebration(especially on a walk off) is ‘over the top’ as it is a 162 games season.

Just point out to a FBall fan that a dance in the end zone is tantamount to hitting a home run, doing cartwheels down the 3rd base line and doing a ‘spike’ motion towards the Catcher and Pitcher.

Yes, it would certainly be time for some ‘Chin Music’ and I can sort of imagine the Umpire ‘not seeing anything’ (as to the ‘retaliation’)


30 posted on 05/03/2014 6:47:33 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) --"On occasion, nothing said says a lot more than saying something".)
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To: Ransomed

No one wants 90mph+ in the eye socket, much less anywhere else.
= = = = = = = = = = =
When one mentions that the TD dance etal is not only ridiculous but quite foolish (John Riggins —I don’t have a dance because you should act like you have been here before and will be there again).

I even think the ‘after game’ celebration(especially on a walk off) is ‘over the top’ as it is a 162 games season.

Just point out to a FBall fan that a dance in the end zone is tantamount to hitting a home run, doing cartwheels down the 3rd base line and doing a ‘spike’ motion towards the Catcher and Pitcher.

Yes, it would certainly be time for some ‘Chin Music’ and I can sort of imagine the Umpire ‘not seeing anything’ (as to the ‘retaliation’)


31 posted on 05/03/2014 6:49:23 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) --"On occasion, nothing said says a lot more than saying something".)
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To: xrmusn

Yup, I find too much celebratory garbage in MLB as well. Entirely too much standing and eyeballing your homer as it leaves the yard. That will still get someone hit occasionally, not like it used to be for sure. But a pitcher drilling a batter just because he hit a homer last time is bush too, but we don’t see it as much. Still nothing like as bad as NFL.

The 162 game season is why the MLB is able to self police itself, retaliation doesn’t have to even come in the same series or against the offending player himself. And all the players know it, so the guy being a jackwagon will have his own teammates getting him to knock off whatever he was doing. DH with no pitcher hitting or relief pitching or warnings issued don’t matter. Not as pure, but it still works.

Freegards


32 posted on 05/03/2014 7:04:31 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

Sounds like you were around for the Sal ‘The Barber’ Maglie, Carl Erskine, Bob Gibson and Don Drysdale eras.

Today they ‘warn’ both benches if an Ump even thinks a close pitch was deliberate. AND after the first warning all a batter has to do is grimace on a curve and it can be deemed done on purpose SO the P and MGR get bounced...

Remember Bryce Harper’s 1st season when Cole Hamels hit him, Bryce retaliated with stealing home on HIM. Next at bat Harper bunted up the first base line - towards the moundish.

I still think that if all went as planned, HARPER would have run up HAMELS’ back - HARD, VERY HARD....I am sure the participants believed it also as Davey was ‘smiling’ and Hamels said after the game he hit Harper on purpose....Dumb remark that gave him a ‘mini-vacation’ in the middle of summer.


33 posted on 05/03/2014 8:40:06 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) --"On occasion, nothing said says a lot more than saying something".)
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To: xrmusn

No, all that was waaay before my time. Not that I don’t appreciate it. Closest I’ve seen to that stuff was probably Pedro and juice head Clemens. Warnings are 90% dumb, but the 162 game season usually takes care of it anyhow as far as retaliation. If not that season the next.

I’m a huge Bryce Harper fan. I saw that game on MASN. He would have plowed Cole he had got it down right. Hamels is scratched for tomorrow’s game, not that he would see Bryce anyhow.

Bryce can be his own worst enemy, he didn’t get over to first out of frustration. Yeah he might be tender but even loping down there is better than that. They had a meeting a few days before about the now changed transfer rule and having to get down to first in case the first baseman drops it when he steps off. Bryce got frustrated and peeled off after dogging it, he would have been automatically out in the dugout. Williams showed guts doing it. No problems, young player with lots of pressure on him. Hopefully a learning experience.

Freegards


34 posted on 05/03/2014 9:17:25 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Olog-hai

I actually agree with those who say he was brave to come out of the closet. He did this fully knowing he would drop 60+ draft selections in the NFL draft, or not being drafted at all. Now that is real bravery.


35 posted on 05/04/2014 7:00:53 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: ken5050

Are describing the school yard game known as “sheer the queer”?


36 posted on 05/04/2014 7:02:22 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Olog-hai
I don’t think he’ll have any problem in the locker room.

Hey Mikey? What's with the raging hard on in the shower?

What could possibly go wrong?

37 posted on 05/04/2014 7:44:15 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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