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Report: Just 2.4 Million HealthCare.gov Customers Paid Their First Premium
http://dailycaller.com/ ^ | 05/3/2014 | n/a

Posted on 05/04/2014 10:50:52 AM PDT by massmike

Just 67 percent of Obamacare enrollees in federally-run marketplaces had paid their premiums by April 15, bringing the federally-run Obamacare enrollment tally to only 2.45 million, according to documents provided to the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

The Obama administration has been heavily promoting that 8 million Americans selected plans on Obamacare marketplaces, but has refused to release any data on how many purchased their plans.

The 67 percent payment rate as of April 15 is markedly lower than the 80-85 percent that experts have predicted will end up paying their premiums. April 30 is the final day for most federal exchange customers to make their payments.

Of those who have paid their premiums, just 25 percent fall within the highly desired young invincible range from age 18 to 34 — drastically lower than the administration’s minimum goal of 39 percent needed to avoid premium hikes next year.

“In a sad reversal away from its vows of transparency, the Obama administration, from inside the Oval Office on down, has gone to extraordinary lengths to keep basic details of the health care law from the public,” said Michigan Republican Rep. Fred Upton, chairman of the committee. “Tired of receiving incomplete pictures of enrollment in the health care law, we went right to the source and found that the administration’s recent declarations of success may be unfounded.”

The Obama administration has been touting exchanges’ 8 million sign-ups far and wide, but have come under fire for refusing to release any data on the number of Americans that have actually paid for their health care plans.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; obamacare; obamacareenrollment; obamacarepremiums

1 posted on 05/04/2014 10:50:52 AM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike

2.4 paid their premium. Now tell me the total amount paid into this “self sustaining” system.


2 posted on 05/04/2014 10:52:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: massmike

2.4 million paid out of a supposed 8 million signees.

Not bad for government work.

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3 posted on 05/04/2014 10:55:30 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: massmike

Millinsn of Americans intimidated by fear of the IRS into complying with an odious law.


4 posted on 05/04/2014 10:56:53 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: massmike
The Problem (as stated by Obama in 2008):
47 million Americans lack health insurance.

The Solution (as implemented by Obama):
$1B web site.
Control 1/6 of the US economy
Deprive 50 million Americans of their existing health insurance.
Stifle business growth as small companies fear the costs of growth.

The Result (as reported here):
2.4 million Americans covered.

Follow-on:
Big Media Party. Open bar. New dress for Michelle.

5 posted on 05/04/2014 10:58:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: massmike
the boy said 7,000,000+ have signed up, yet this says 2.45million payers is 67% of enrollment...
6 posted on 05/04/2014 10:58:21 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: massmike

You KNEW this was going to be the case. This thing is an UTTER DISASTER for America’s Economy, and the Healthcare System.

Little wonder the Administration didn’t want to tell us how many actually PAID.

If you take note of this inconvenient truth, are you a racist??


7 posted on 05/04/2014 10:58:42 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: massmike

This is the ‘drop out’ of the people who enroll by putting something in their ‘shopping cart’ and then have buyer’s remorse when they get to the check out and see the premiums.

You may see another drop out group when the young invincibles decide they’d rather buy some makeup or go to a rave instead of paying their monthly bills.

Over many years as an insurance salesman for health policies I found that there is a very high drop out rate for individuals who have to pay their own premiums.

Of course the penalty tax for not having a policy will replace some of the necessary income to sustain this giant program, but it won’t be enough unless the penalties become draconian—and they are collected.

Once you start down that road, the invincibles are going to be very upset.


8 posted on 05/04/2014 11:03:20 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: ClearCase_guy

And I bet the 1B cost doesn’t include such things as Oregon’s complete disaster...around 300M I think.

Then there is the cost of subsidies and almost everyone paying more for less, and the job costs of hiring freezes by employers.


9 posted on 05/04/2014 11:04:54 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: massmike; All

And how many have actually whipped out that ObamaCare card and received treatment for their ills???

Lets see how many of these people actually sustain their premium payments in the next month or so...

I bet the numbers will decline dramatically...


10 posted on 05/04/2014 11:06:43 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: massmike
Report: Just 2.4 Million HealthCare.gov Customers Paid Their First Premium

Even that figure will drop next month.

11 posted on 05/04/2014 11:08:21 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle?" - Patrick Henry, 1775)
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To: massmike

“Just 67 percent of Obamacare enrollees in federally-run marketplaces had paid their premiums by April 15, bringing the federally-run Obamacare enrollment tally to only 2.45 million”

Sorry stupid newspaper writer.....that represents roughly 30% of the 8 million.

No wonder O can get away with be a lying liar


12 posted on 05/04/2014 11:16:15 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: massmike; All

2.45 million does NOT represent 67% of 8 million

It is roughly 30%..... PLEASE yell it from the house tops


13 posted on 05/04/2014 11:17:36 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: massmike

I would like to see the percentages after the 4th or 5th premium due dates come around. I bet it will be a lot lower.


14 posted on 05/04/2014 11:18:25 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: massmike

WHAT??? It’s from the Government, and it’s not FREE??? LOL!!


15 posted on 05/04/2014 11:25:44 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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16 posted on 05/04/2014 11:26:05 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: massmike

And how many of the 2.45 million could get a doctor and actually receive any care? It’s FAR FEWER than 2.45 million from all the horror stories I’ve been reading. Then we can discuss their outrageous out of pocket costs for co-pays.

Communism sucks.


17 posted on 05/04/2014 11:26:20 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TomGuy

Flop!!!


18 posted on 05/04/2014 11:27:00 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: ClearCase_guy

The Solution (as implemented by Obama):
* $1B web site.
* Control 1/6 of the US economy
* Deprive 50 million Americans of their existing health insurance.
* Stifle business growth as small companies fear the costs of growth.

...and add...
* Triple premiums for those who buy government insurance
* Triple copays for those who by government insurance
* Pay doctors less than they are worth, thus driving doctors out of business so nobody gets care
* Shrink the size of your coverage area so you can’t travel more than 50 miles from home and be covered

Proclaim success.


19 posted on 05/04/2014 11:29:24 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s only 30%. This will fail b4 it gets going.


20 posted on 05/04/2014 11:30:06 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Nifster
2.45 million does NOT represent 67% of 8 million

I've been wondering about that. I just thought it was some of that new "Common Core" math the commie libs came up with.

21 posted on 05/04/2014 11:37:52 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Nifster
2.45 million does NOT represent 67% of 8 million

It is roughly 30%..... PLEASE yell it from the house tops


Is the story mixing up the numbers from the total, including the state marketplaces, with the federally signed up numbers?

Poorly written journalism, as usual.

22 posted on 05/04/2014 11:40:02 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: Nifster

It is written unclearly.

Is it 67% of the (8 million minus Medicaid)?

As I recall, Medicaid signups were about 4.5 Million via the Federal Exchanges.


23 posted on 05/04/2014 11:40:48 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: massmike

Bump


24 posted on 05/04/2014 12:14:50 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Chode

2.4 million is through the federal exchanges, per the article. Seven million includes those registered through state exchanges, too (although ‘enrolled’ does not mean they paid the initial premium).


25 posted on 05/04/2014 12:16:03 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: lepton

I quoted the article which stated very clearly that the idiot writer thought that 2.45 million represented 67% of the 8 million sign ups for ACA.

I don’t care how anyone tries to make sense of it.....that’s NOT the way arithmetic works


26 posted on 05/04/2014 12:23:51 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Scoutmaster
thx...
27 posted on 05/04/2014 12:34:20 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Nifster

I had assumed you were reporting another’s writing.

However...it is not clear, and it is not clear in the way that the Obama administration has been trying to make it unclear:

“Just 67 percent of Obamacare enrollees ...”

“The Obama administration has been heavily promoting that 8 million Americans selected plans”

“on Obamacare marketplaces, but has refused to release any data on how many purchased their plans.”

“Enrollees” signed up or applied. “Selected”, just made an initial choice. ...and then there is “purchased”. That’s three different categories, all jumbled together.


28 posted on 05/04/2014 1:08:31 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: massmike
That is probably very close to the real number of people that have signed up for this garbage.

I bet most of them are people that were on Medicaid and Medicare that were forced to go to Obamacare.

Anyway 6 months ago the admin admitted they only had 250k (less than 1/2 of 1% of the entire U.S. population), and that was considered an exaggerated number. However, they now say it's over 7 million. Yeah right....

29 posted on 05/04/2014 2:31:04 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: lepton

I agree particularly with you last sentence. That is part of the overall problem with the lies these lying liars in the O admin have


30 posted on 05/04/2014 5:08:52 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: massmike

This is no different on how they fake election results. Everthing they do is a FRAUD. Including the comrade in chief.


31 posted on 05/04/2014 5:34:53 PM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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