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George Will: ĎIím an amiable, low voltage atheistí
Daily Caller ^ | 9:10 PM 05/03/2014 | Jamie Weinstein

Posted on 05/04/2014 12:34:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Legendary conservative columnist George Will says he is an atheist. […]

“I’m an amiable, low voltage atheist,” Will explained. “I deeply respect religions and religious people. The great religions reflect something constant and noble in the human character, defensible and admirable yearnings.”

“I am just not persuaded. That’s all,” he added. …

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Not only is he not amiable, he is not conservative either.
1 posted on 05/04/2014 12:34:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I have no problem with this position, which is very similar to that of John Derbyshire.


2 posted on 05/04/2014 12:43:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Olog-hai

I wonder how he explains to himself how everything got here?

I guess this also explains why he’s so limp, has no backbone...
...after all, if you don’t believe in God, how can you believe in true Righteousness?


3 posted on 05/04/2014 12:43:58 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Olog-hai

Guess I never knew that.

Well, George, this is coming. Ready or not:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A5-11&version=KJV

FWIW


4 posted on 05/04/2014 12:44:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Sherman Logan

I have no problem with live and let live atheists.


5 posted on 05/04/2014 12:44:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Olog-hai

You’re are mostly out of touch as well and not a conservative.


6 posted on 05/04/2014 12:46:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: cripplecreek
I have no problem with live and let live atheists.

Amen.

7 posted on 05/04/2014 12:46:28 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Olog-hai

Exactly. Not conservative at all. And for the skeptical scientists out there I have a simple question: Assuming there is no underlying, unseen, life force out there, what are the odds that the universe was born with the capacity to generate self-aware beings from the matter... that seemingly...came from nothing... in the first place? Sorry George, it’s not only probable that there is a God, it’s actually quite unlikely that there isn’t a God.


8 posted on 05/04/2014 12:47:33 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: cripplecreek

Me neither, but it also explains why their views tend to shift with the prevailing winds.


9 posted on 05/04/2014 12:48:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sherman Logan

John Derbyshire, really? That guy has enough problems of his own.


10 posted on 05/04/2014 12:49:20 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I am always sad to hear someone say that. Even if I were not a Christian, I am sure I would believe in God. I look at the miracle of creation and see God’s handiwork. I know others might see it otherwise, but that’s how I look at it.


11 posted on 05/04/2014 12:49:48 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Yossarian

Exactly. There is no moral order without a supernatural pretext. Period. George is confused, but for him that’s situation normal.


12 posted on 05/04/2014 12:50:20 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: cripplecreek

How many of those exist?

The Biblical principle of the just living by faith is one that the Founding Fathers stood upon. The USA’s constitution, John Adams made clear, is not for those that reject morality and religion; such people can’t be governed by it.


13 posted on 05/04/2014 12:51:03 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: HMS Surprise

I think while technically an “atheist”, Trey Parker of South Park had a great observation..

“Basically... out of all the ridiculous religion stories which are greatly, wonderfully ridiculous — the silliest one I’ve ever heard is, ‘Yeah... there’s this big giant universe and it’s expanding, it’s all gonna collapse on itself and we’re all just here just ‘cause... just ‘cause’. That, to me, is the most ridiculous explanation ever.”


14 posted on 05/04/2014 12:52:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: HMS Surprise

I agree. Entropy does not allow for higher forms of life, or any forms at all.


15 posted on 05/04/2014 12:53:23 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Just doing laps around the sun and shaking my head that progressives can believe what they do!)
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To: Sherman Logan

I don’t see why anyone would ever have any problem with anyone else’s personal religious persuasion, as long as it doesn’t break your leg or pick your pocket.


16 posted on 05/04/2014 12:53:29 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: Olog-hai

Lots. In fact I suspect there are still quite a few here at FR.


17 posted on 05/04/2014 12:54:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: HMS Surprise

Exactly. Not conservative at all. And for the skeptical scientists out there I have a simple question: Assuming there is no underlying, unseen, life force out there, what are the odds that the universe was born with the capacity to generate self-aware beings from the matter... that seemingly...came from nothing... in the first place? Sorry George, it’s not only probable that there is a God, it’s actually quite unlikely that there isn’t a God.

And might I add, just to humor the perplexed Mr. Will: Not only did all of the above happen, it also miraculously found a moral order floating in the ether that allows atheists to somehow claim to be conservative.


18 posted on 05/04/2014 12:54:33 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m not that surprised. George’s whole nature is that of a sceptic or perfunctory contrarian (aka Devil’s Advocate). Playing that role in on air discussions has made a good living for him. He can retreat into a position of neutrality when it serves his needs. At least George Will does not strike me as one of those Angry Atheists who is focused on destroying what they do not believe in.


19 posted on 05/04/2014 12:54:47 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

— Psalm 19:1 KJV

For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

— Romans 19:1 ESV
Looks like the Bible agrees with your viewpoint.
20 posted on 05/04/2014 12:54:49 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I went through this about 8 years ago too. In the same boat; I no longer found the arguments for theism persuasive.


21 posted on 05/04/2014 12:55:09 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: Olog-hai

Krauthammer is an atheist as well. Maybe God will open their eyes in the future.


22 posted on 05/04/2014 12:56:27 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Olog-hai

I have worshiped on many occasions alongside Krauthammer. It is my humble belief that humble men understate their knowledge of and love of the LORD.

Finally - is it of any use what importance we insects ascribe to the Creator of the Universe?


23 posted on 05/04/2014 12:57:17 PM PDT by golux
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To: GunRunner

What “arguments for theism” were you faced with?

Do you think DNA wrote itself? It is a computer program after all; ask computer programmers.


24 posted on 05/04/2014 12:57:35 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: dfwgator
...prevailing winds.

Yes, because without a Creator to whom one is responsible, moral relativism is all that is left. No authority and no accountability leaves arrogance to do it's worst.

25 posted on 05/04/2014 12:57:46 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Olog-hai

>>“I deeply respect religions and religious people. The great religions reflect something constant and noble in the human character, defensible and admirable yearnings.”

Why would you respect someone to turns “something constant and noble in the human character” into a superstitious belief system? If you don’t believe in God, then just tell the religious people that they are wrong and prove it.

I agreed with what Will is saying for 30 years. Then I realized that I was wrong and became convinced that God is real and that there is nothing “constant and noble in the human character” that wasn’t given by the Holy Spirit.


26 posted on 05/04/2014 12:59:19 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Olog-hai

This does not surprise me at all.


27 posted on 05/04/2014 12:59:33 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: GunRunner

“Went through this...” Sounds funny. As if every believer doesn’t doubt at some point. This is the essence of faith, some doubt but have faith, some don’t have faith. You sound like it was a revelation to you. It’s the standard human condition.


28 posted on 05/04/2014 1:00:44 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: Olog-hai
Apropos of your first quote, this just came out of nothing.

Die Schöpfung (The Creation)

Papa Haydn's great genius, the splendid voices, the brilliant instrumentalists . . . and of course the Creation itself . . . all just 'happened' out of nothing at all . . . mmm hmm.

29 posted on 05/04/2014 1:05:59 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia! OF the B)
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To: Olog-hai

So he “resents” us

Can’t just disagree politely and make his own decision

Instead, George “Free” Will has to hate us

That’s the end of you to me, loser. The remote will be be used more often


30 posted on 05/04/2014 1:06:23 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Hey 2008, we told you so)
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To: Olog-hai

He’s a dunce and proud of it


31 posted on 05/04/2014 1:06:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: golux
Yes, because we are no longer insects, no longer doomed to death. Sons not slaves.

More musical answers: God So Loved the World

32 posted on 05/04/2014 1:12:31 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia! OF the B)
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To: Olog-hai

Yes, and there was a time when creation’s witness restored my own weakened faith.


33 posted on 05/04/2014 1:16:23 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Olog-hai

Krauthammer, Rove, Will...all atheists. Pretty sad.


34 posted on 05/04/2014 1:17:43 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Olog-hai
I challenge atheists to explain consciousness.

All our science, with all its knowledge, doesn't even touch it.

And consciousness is not pretty colors on an MRI image of the brain.

35 posted on 05/04/2014 1:20:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: HMS Surprise

That’s funny.


36 posted on 05/04/2014 1:21:55 PM PDT by ssfromla
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37 posted on 05/04/2014 1:22:11 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Olog-hai

Will explained. “I deeply respect religions and religious people.”— So,in other words you respect terrorists to? They kill in the name of allah.


38 posted on 05/04/2014 1:25:30 PM PDT by ohiobushman ( If people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?)
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To: GunRunner

Me neither.

I also find a lot of the comments on here about GW “not being a conservative” interesting.

Those with such opinions apparently think you assemble a coalition capable of rescuing the country by rejecting anybody who doesn’t agree with you in every respect.

I’m not a huge fan of Will, but he’s been an effective ally in many areas for several decades.


39 posted on 05/04/2014 1:26:29 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Olog-hai

I have never considered George Will my favorite conservative. If I go a website that features many conservatives, for example the DrudgeReport, and select columnists to read, I will seldom click on George Will.

Yet to many, he is the face of conservatism. If I recall right, he was on ABC and published in Newsweek. I think of George Will as the favorite, and only acceptable, conservative for many liberal news outlets.

So how did George Will get this coveted position of a conservative whom the liberals will print? To be fair, he is often conservative. But he is not hard hitting - that would be offensive in a conservative. Occasionally (when needed?) he turns on conservatives and Republicans. Perhaps that is the price he pays in order to get air time and print space.

With the possible exception of Steven Colbert, George Will is the liberal’s favorite conservative. Colbert is a clear phoney. I think George Will is mostly conservative, yet he only takes his gloves off when attacking people more conservative than himself.


40 posted on 05/04/2014 1:29:38 PM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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To: Olog-hai

As we’ve seen from many of our leaders in religious organizations, morality is a forgotten quality.


41 posted on 05/04/2014 1:30:06 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Character matters for those who understand the concept)
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t doubt one bit that someone who is as in love with himself as he is would be an atheist. Every atheist I know truly believes they are smarter than everyone else.


42 posted on 05/04/2014 1:30:44 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Yossarian

I have yet to see an articulated basis for any morality of any kind absent a deity. If we are just random molecules, why on earth would anyone care about murder, theft, rape, or even being kind to another human. None of it would matter in the slightest, it’s just a social construct based on evolutionary preferences that maximized the growth of the species. But it’s not binding or even preferable in a modern age. So, why do they continue to feel bound by laws and morality?


43 posted on 05/04/2014 1:32:04 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: ohiobushman

I’m curious how you get that out of what he said. He didn’t say he respected anything and everything ever done in the name of religion.

I respect the beliefs of Catholics, though I disagree with them.

But I have no respect for the Inquisition nor the Ustasha of Croatia, which murdered many thousands of people in the name of Catholicism.

Similar issues apply for most religions, merely using Catholicism as an example.


44 posted on 05/04/2014 1:33:06 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Olog-hai; Larry Lucido; F15Eagle

I’ll tell you who is an attractive man; Gorge Will. He has clean looks, scrubbed and shampooed...


45 posted on 05/04/2014 1:34:00 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: HMS Surprise

Good observations.

By the way, the claim that “EVERYTHING is relative,” is much too absolute for me. :)


46 posted on 05/04/2014 1:35:11 PM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress in 2006.)
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To: Olog-hai

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

This is indeed true. I am now too old to talk to people like they are children. This plainly says there is NO SUCH THING AS AN HONEST ATHEIST - PERIOD. Anyone who has the capacity to see the things Paul lists KNOWS THERE IS A GOD. Anyone who says otherwise, George Will et al , are liars and they know they are liars.


47 posted on 05/04/2014 1:36:53 PM PDT by Duke of Milan
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To: Olog-hai
I'm surprised that George Will has never read Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis.

Mere Christianity is C.S. Lewis's forceful and accessible doctrine of Christian belief. First heard as informal radio broadcasts and then published as three separate books - The Case for Christianity, Christian Behavior, and Beyond Personality - Mere Christianity brings together what Lewis saw as the fundamental truths of the religion. Rejecting the boundaries that divide Christianity's many denominations, C.S. Lewis finds a common ground on which all those who have Christian faith can stand together, proving that "at the centre of each there is something, or a Someone, who against all divergences of belief, all differences of temperament, all memories of mutual persecution, speaks the same voice."

48 posted on 05/04/2014 1:37:40 PM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t see how DNA requires theism. A “creator”, prime mover, or DNA author doesn’t need to be theistic one.


49 posted on 05/04/2014 1:39:51 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: cripplecreek
I have not problem with live and let live atheists

I don't either as a rule, but in this case, it is astonishing that Mr. Will has not been persuaded by Sir Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, and others - who in the world of physics have more or less proven there is a Creator God. Seems to me this lack of being persuaded is willfull ignorance on his part. Then again, he and Krauthammer have been "captain obvious" for years now…..

50 posted on 05/04/2014 1:43:06 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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