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Death penalty is unchristian
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Posted on 05/05/2014 5:59:03 PM PDT by stirrinthepuddin

The recent and ghastly botched execution of a man in Oklahoma has rekindled my thoughts on capital punishment -- a practice outlawed in most civilized countries. Indeed, most of the industrialized world looks with horror on the United States, in this regard, as a primitive and backward country.

Just in passing fact, capital punishment was banned in the Netherlands in 1870, in Costa Rica in 1877, in Colombia in 1910. In allowing the death penalty, the United States stands with Libya, Uganda, Cuba, Egypt and Equatorial Guinea, among our other peers.

It's a sad commentary on justice in this country that, in a nation so plagued by capital murder, we should make it a state practice as well. Do we not see the connection? You would guess that a nation obsessed with guns and violence -- just read the papers -- might at some point notice that when the state participates in this brutality, there is a tacit agreement that the most complete response to provocation is death.

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The church of CNN!

I didn't have the heart to post this in the religion forum!

(Killing the innocent, unborn is ...?)

1 posted on 05/05/2014 5:59:03 PM PDT by stirrinthepuddin
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Such twaddle.


2 posted on 05/05/2014 6:00:29 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Don’t kill (unless it’s self defense) .. you stay ‘un-killed’ yourself!

Simple! 8)


3 posted on 05/05/2014 6:00:32 PM PDT by stirrinthepuddin
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Hypocrites.


4 posted on 05/05/2014 6:02:18 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Wow, I thought they were big fans of the “separation of church and state.”


5 posted on 05/05/2014 6:03:36 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: stirrinthepuddin

“my thoughts....” I think therefore I am.


6 posted on 05/05/2014 6:04:17 PM PDT by madameguinot
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To: stirrinthepuddin

[eyeroll] These useless fascist drones continue to consume oxygen that could be put to so many more beneficial uses, like rust.


7 posted on 05/05/2014 6:04:44 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Oh now CNN decides to become the “Christian News Network”.


8 posted on 05/05/2014 6:05:25 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: stirrinthepuddin
I didn't have the heart to post this in the religion forum!

LOL! Good call. BTT

9 posted on 05/05/2014 6:05:52 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: stirrinthepuddin

10 posted on 05/05/2014 6:07:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

HUH? If there was no death penalty, there would be no Christianity!


11 posted on 05/05/2014 6:08:44 PM PDT by null and void ( They don't think think they are above the law. They think they are the law.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin
Would I be way out of bounds if I assumed that Mr Parini’s brand of “Christianity” forbids the DP but celebrates abortion and homosexual “marriage”?
12 posted on 05/05/2014 6:08:54 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Baloney! Read Genesis Chapter 9 verse 6.


13 posted on 05/05/2014 6:09:16 PM PDT by sport
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To: stirrinthepuddin

I find it fascinating how non-Christians will try to lecture Christians on how their actions are not Christian.


14 posted on 05/05/2014 6:09:30 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: null and void

Ooh, good point! Plus God resorted to handing out the death penalty repeatedly. Not to put ourselves on the same footing with Him, but it’s obviously not something He condemns.


15 posted on 05/05/2014 6:10:24 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: null and void

+1


16 posted on 05/05/2014 6:12:35 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Correct, they are against the death penalty unless it is an unborn child. They are the murderers of over 50 million unborn. They think like all the good ole tyrants. Hitler, Stalin and Mao!!


17 posted on 05/05/2014 6:13:10 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Matthew 5:17-18 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”

The death penalty is entirely appropriate from a Christian perspective. “Unchristian” describes the evil actions that put those murderers on death row.


18 posted on 05/05/2014 6:13:17 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin
Baloney! Read Genesis Chapter 9 verse 6

I suppose what the man did to the innocent child, in the eyes of the writer of the story is o.k.

As far as I am concerned, the son of a bitch did not suffer enough. But that is just the way I feel.

19 posted on 05/05/2014 6:13:53 PM PDT by sport
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Since when id CNN so concerned with Christian practice?


20 posted on 05/05/2014 6:14:00 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2ndDivisionVet

Is that real?

Fantastic!
(And funny)


21 posted on 05/05/2014 6:14:11 PM PDT by stirrinthepuddin
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Actually, God says in Scripture that one who kills shall be put to death. God approved of the death penalty.


22 posted on 05/05/2014 6:14:44 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

There are about 12,000 murders (about 8,500 w/guns) per year in the US. Not sure what the conviction rate is.

There should be at least 5,000 to 8,000 executions per year. It would slow down pretty quickly if we used it enough to actually cat as a deterant.


23 posted on 05/05/2014 6:14:47 PM PDT by umgud
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To: stirrinthepuddin
Liberals are hiding behind God to advance their agenda.

Just look at the homosexual marriage debate - now it falls under "religious rights."

24 posted on 05/05/2014 6:15:22 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (100% pure organic, free-range conservative)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

The recent execution in Oklahoma was a resounding succcess because the torture-murder rapist monster is now dead. The dramatics of the execution are just icing on the cake, a sort of free bonus gift to the taxpayers.


25 posted on 05/05/2014 6:18:53 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

“most of the industrialized world looks with horror on the United States, in this regard, as a primitive and backward country.”

Yes, those civilized industrial countries are so great. Like Britain where you can be decapitated in the street by Jihadists, or Sweden where pedophiles can adopt.

And for the record, these nations so lauded by liberals are few and far between industrialized anymore. I haven’t seen ‘Made In France’ on anything lately. The Netherlands is of course known for its booming industries!... maybe the porn and pot industry.

I don’t care what the Euros or Canadians think. Murderers like this scumbag in Oklahoma (whose victim wasn’t given their own in depth article at Communist News Network) deserve to be killed. He murdered a 19 year old girl for crying out loud.

As for the Christianity of the death penalty, this is yet more revisionism and selective reading for the Jars-Of-Clay re-interpretation squad who must spend their little time at those universalist congregations writing snide articles rather than praying.
We are taught not to conduct God’s judgement on others in the form of capital punishment. Stoning adulterers is indeed wrong and has been since the end of Ancient Israel. However, while we may not kill in pursuit of God’s judgement, we can act lethally in defense of ourselves and our own. That is why (certain conditions met) murder can be punished with the death penalty in this country. We conduct this sentence in our own defense, for the convicted has declared war against all of us with his heinous act. For that he may rightly and justly be condemned to death just as he condemned his victim to death.

An eye for an eye stands as principle. When you gouge out another’s eye, EXPECT your eye to be gouged in response.


26 posted on 05/05/2014 6:19:27 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: stirrinthepuddin

“Incompatible indeed. It has always struck me as bizarre that many of those who object most strenuously to abortion because it involves taking a life will quite happily condone capital punishment, as if this is somehow not taking a life.”

No you ignorant moron.

It’s about taking an INNOCENT life versus taking the life of a scumbag THAT HAS BROUGHT ALL OF IT ON HIMSELF!

And I noticed somehow you seemed to have forgotten to mention anything about the victims. Typical brain dead liberal pretzel logic!


27 posted on 05/05/2014 6:20:18 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: stirrinthepuddin

The godless telling Christians how they should believe. Again. IIRC, God instituted the death penalty way back in the Garden of Eden. Christ accepted his death sentence without a word of protest and his death was much more gruesome than a lethal injection.


28 posted on 05/05/2014 6:20:37 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Viennacon
“most of the industrialized world looks with horror on the United States, in this regard, as a primitive and backward country.”

Yes, let's be like Norway, where Anders Brievik gets 20 years in a country club prison.

29 posted on 05/05/2014 6:20:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Well, no need to go to church now. I can stay home on Sunday and watch CNN.


30 posted on 05/05/2014 6:20:50 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

The only bad thing about the death penalty is it isn’t carried out immediatly after a trial!


31 posted on 05/05/2014 6:22:41 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Genesis 9:6

“Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image.”


32 posted on 05/05/2014 6:29:52 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

I’ll never forget Ted Turner sneering at all the Catholics as “Jesus Freaks” on a certain Ash Friday.

CNN talking about Christianity is the Devil quoting scripture in real time.


33 posted on 05/05/2014 6:30:04 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: stirrinthepuddin
State-sponsored murder fosters a culture of violence that permeates our society, creating a punitive state of mind that does nobody any good. And it has surely proven ineffective in preventing further killings. Indeed, it generates them.

How many people have died at the hands of socialist governments in the last 100 years? How many people are going to be terminated by the lies of an incompetent state-sponsored program like ObamaCare? How many people have died since the government ban of DDT has been imposed in order to save a few birds?

34 posted on 05/05/2014 6:34:22 PM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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“I’ll never forget Ted Turner sneering at all the Catholics as “Jesus Freaks” on a certain Ash Friday.”

Well it would be weird if Catholics were sporting ashes on Friday...


35 posted on 05/05/2014 6:34:58 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: stirrinthepuddin

So, these dolts equate Capitol PUNISHMENT with murder? Says it all right there. No need to read further.


36 posted on 05/05/2014 6:35:45 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: stirrinthepuddin

If you discount the inner cities, the U.S. has among the lowest homicide rates in the world. Our continued use of the death penalty is probably a major factor.


37 posted on 05/05/2014 6:39:30 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: EEGator

I’m not a Catholic so I can’t remember when the proper day for wearing the ashes is, but you know what I meant.

I’m sure Turner didn’t know either.


38 posted on 05/05/2014 6:48:44 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

A fitting end for shooting a young lady twice with a sawed off shotgun and burying her alive after raping her.


39 posted on 05/05/2014 6:53:15 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: Ronin

I forgot to put the smiley face. I was just trying to have some light fun.


40 posted on 05/05/2014 7:10:27 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: stirrinthepuddin

What would CNN know about Christianity? LOL! They’re a bunch of fools.


41 posted on 05/05/2014 7:11:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: stirrinthepuddin
Death penalty is unchristian

Saying something doesn't make it so.
I thought everybody already knew that!

Waste of words.
Blah blah blah...

42 posted on 05/05/2014 7:19:48 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Did anyone at CNN ever play the “religion” card when Ted Turner walked through the studios mocking those who had Ash Wednesday crosses on their foreheads?


43 posted on 05/05/2014 7:20:30 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: stirrinthepuddin
I didn't have the heart to post this in the religion forum!

That was certainly thoughtful and Christian of you.

44 posted on 05/05/2014 7:20:53 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: stirrinthepuddin
Has CNN ever addressed botched abortions, calling for a moratorium on abortions in licensed clinics until they show that this will never happen again?

Talk about uncivilized behavior. It's killed off several generations of Americans now.

45 posted on 05/05/2014 7:21:50 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: cuban leaf
I find it fascinating how non-Christians will try to lecture Christians on how their actions are not Christian.

It's specially ironic when done by a pro-sodomy pervert.

46 posted on 05/05/2014 7:24:41 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The death penalty is society’s way of saying to a killer that “you’ve been a bad boy” and mean it.

Remember, an executed murderer never kills again.

The title of a column I wrote in the Baltimore News American in 1983. Still sounds reasonable.


47 posted on 05/05/2014 7:26:00 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: stirrinthepuddin

The death penalty was established for the taking of human live by God after the flood. And it was not for punishment - not as an example, not to send a “message”, but because human life is - well, this is what God said:
“5 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each man, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of his fellow man. 6 Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man. 7 As for you, be fruitful and increase in number; multiply on the earth and increase upon it.” (Gen. 9).
It’s almost sacramental. To God, human life is precious, with (at least the potential) for Holiness. Thus, we take the life on one who took a life out of respect for God’s love of man - and because He told us to.


48 posted on 05/05/2014 7:29:13 PM PDT by impactplayer
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To: stirrinthepuddin

Sure thing. You can bet I always get my theology lessons from CNN....what dolts


49 posted on 05/05/2014 7:46:15 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: dalereed

“The only bad thing about the death penalty is it isn’t carried out immediately after a trial!”

I concur. My little county has four of these pending for over
20yrs. Appeals have lingered over for years, then appealed again on different grounds, and the nonsense continues for decades.


50 posted on 05/05/2014 7:55:16 PM PDT by theneanderthal
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