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Samsung’s record of IP theft, other ruthless business tactics, and why Apple might still lose
MacDailyNews ^ | Saturday, May 3, 2014 · 5:15 pm

Posted on 05/05/2014 11:45:35 PM PDT by Swordmaker

“On August 4, 2010, amid the bustle of downtown Seoul, a small group of executives from Apple Inc. pushed through the revolving door into a blue-tinted, 44-story glass tower, ready to fire the first shot in what would become one of the bloodiest corporate wars in history,” Kurt Eichenwald writes for Vanity Fair. “The showdown had been brewing since spring, when Samsung launched the Galaxy S, a new entry into the smartphone market. Apple had snagged one early overseas and gave it to the iPhone team at its Cupertino, California, headquarters. The designers studied it with growing disbelief. The Galaxy S, they thought, was pure piracy. The overall appearance of the phone, the screen, the icons, even the box looked the same as the iPhone’s. Patented features such as “rubber-banding,” in which a screen image bounces slightly when a user tries to scroll past the bottom, were identical. Same with “pinch to zoom,” which allows users to manipulate image size by pinching the thumb and forefinger together on the screen.

“Steve Jobs, Apple’s mercurial chief executive, was furious. His teams had toiled for years creating a breakthrough phone, and now, Jobs fumed, a competitor—an Apple supplier no less!—had stolen the design and many features. Jobs and Tim Cook, his chief operating officer, had spoken with Samsung president Jay Y. Lee in July to express their concern about the similarities of the two phones but received no satisfactory response,”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; samsung
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1 posted on 05/05/2014 11:45:35 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
The background of the Apple Samsung Feud. . . great read and well worth the time from an unbiased source. Gives the history of Samsung's business practices. —PING!


Apple v. Samsung Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 05/05/2014 11:49:37 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

I love my Samsung phone :)


3 posted on 05/06/2014 12:07:30 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Me too!

It was so nice around here without these "apple is the only company that has any ideas and no other company can survive without stealing from apple" posts.

4 posted on 05/06/2014 12:14:16 AM PDT by Post5203 (For the first time in my life, I despise this country.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

I have the iPhone 5 and the Samsung Galaxy S4 (not the newer S5). The iPhone is an amazing device, but the Samsung is simply better.


5 posted on 05/06/2014 12:32:01 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Swordmaker

The patent system in America needs to be reformed. When companies start spending tens of billions of dollars to buy other companies almost solely for the patent lawsuit ammunition, and then immediately sue your competitors for infringing on what is now “your” patents, you know something’s wrong. Companies are now sued for the vaguest patents that they allegedly copied.


6 posted on 05/06/2014 12:53:43 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Swordmaker
great read and well worth the time from an unbiased source.

So you call macnewsdaily an unbiased source ?

do you think apple will update the iphone early ?

7 posted on 05/06/2014 12:58:54 AM PDT by quimby
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To: Swordmaker

Not a big Apple fan, but this article was a good read and I now have no love for a company like Samsung and the tactics it uses.


8 posted on 05/06/2014 1:22:34 AM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: quimby
So you call macnewsdaily an unbiased source ?

MacNewsDaily is a news Aggregator. . . Go to THEIR source.

9 posted on 05/06/2014 1:56:21 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Post5203
It was so nice around here without these "apple is the only company that has any ideas and no other company can survive without stealing from apple" posts.

Read the entire article. . .

10 posted on 05/06/2014 1:59:13 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: quimby
do you think apple will update the iphone early ?

I think they'll do it when they're good and ready. That said, Apple has announced an "enormous" iPhone event starting May 8th. . . the quoted word sounds interesting.

11 posted on 05/06/2014 2:02:28 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: LowOiL

The quicker our business leaders realize that there is not a level playing field with our Asian competitors the better.


12 posted on 05/06/2014 2:02:45 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: LowOiL

Samsung has accused apple of the same behavior and won cases in court. Litigation is a very common tactic to supplement actual innovation.


13 posted on 05/06/2014 2:25:00 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Swordmaker
MacNewsDaily is a news Aggregator. . . Go to THEIR source.

THEIR source is a former writer for the New York Times (Kurt Eichenwald). Another piece by this hard-left writer is "The Truth About Obamacare and How It Solves the Suffering of the Uninsured". If you don't like that one, try "The Five Reasons Why Romney/Ryan Must be Defeated", or "Bush White House was Deaf Before the 9/11 Storm". Or how about "Microsoft's Lost Decade"? Or maybe "My Family, Our Cancer, and the Murderous Cruelty of Conservatives? Or "Let's Repeal the Second Amendment?

Yep. An "unbiased source" for sure.

14 posted on 05/06/2014 3:02:57 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: spetznaz
My last two phones were Samsungs, and I will switch to an iPhone the first chance I have. The Samsungs have been like ‘Easter eggs’, all bright and colorful when I first got them, but with decreasing functionality and emerging glitches that became more and more evident as time went on. I bought the second one because the dealer acknowledged the issues with the first, and went on and on about how improved the new Samsung was, and how it was better than an iPhone.

For me, the ‘whole package’ of the iPhone is better. There might be faster CPU speed on a particular Samsung, more pixels on the camera, a better screen etc. etc., but the ‘whole’ doesn't stick together functionally any where near as smoothly as an iPhone.

IMHO.

15 posted on 05/06/2014 3:17:15 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Swordmaker

Don’t they have to show more than that the phone acts superficially like the Apple phone in order to make a patent infringement case? As in, they have to show that the Samsung was reverse engineered so as to mechanically perform the same functions?

Anyone who holds an advanced science degree and becomes a patent attorney can do very well for themselves. The nuances of these patent cases can be very tricky to wade through.

Anyway, corporate espionage is nasty stuff. And not all countries respect patents, either. It is very difficult to hold on to intellectual property... intellectual property theft is a big hindrance to innovation.

When I was in graduate school (for biochemistry), some lab published the description of a genetic construct that was identical to one patented by our principal investigator. They had never asked us for the construct—which we would have provided for free—they claimed it was all their own work. The principal investigator was *not* happy about this. Oh, it was a Korean lab.


16 posted on 05/06/2014 3:17:55 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
I love my HTC One (but wish I had M8), but then again I have always loved their devices. Where Samsung crossed the line was outright copying of the look of the iPhone. All the rest of the issues is just who filled the patent for existing technology. Something that most long time geeks would love to see busted wide open by the courts.

The only real question in my mind is why bother? That's what always got me about the Samsung copying. Why copy Apple's icons? Why coat superior hardware and drift from the Android ecosphere to paint yourself as an iPhone?

To grab iPhone users? It takes seconds for someone used to an iPhone to get frustrated with Android, same the other way around. And coming from mostly vanilla Android builds, using the Galaxy Note can be equally frustrating. The only thing I can figure is that it is the handbag effect: seeking the look of the iPhone in a emerging market where the iPhone was a status symbol. Of taking a very well made and designed handbag and putting a Gucci logo on it as a lead in to the market.

Thankfully, the jury mostly saw through the claims and counter claims and mostly decided on the outright icon thefts. And Samsung should just pay up for the hubris of copying the icons and instead focus on design... Except, well, edit the design ideas a little... A heart rate feature? There's an app for that. ;) 3d pictures would have been much cooler. And licensing IBM's fingerprint scanner? Should have used their facial recognition patents. Instead of copying Apple again.

17 posted on 05/06/2014 3:32:54 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Swordmaker

I own a Samsung Galaxy. It is junk. Pure junk. I eagerly await the day when I can upgrade to a phone that works and I can heave this techno-trash against a wall.


18 posted on 05/06/2014 5:28:20 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Swordmaker

Snip from article demonstrating supremacist bigotry exists even among the tender vegan fruits of the Apple Tribal cult.

“MacDailyNews Take:

I don’t know which is worse: Samsung’s slavish copying or that there are tens of millions of dullards and/or morally-crippled consumers who would buy such obvious knockoffs. What kind of person rewards thieves, especially such obvious ones? What kind of person hands over their money to make sure that crime pays? What’s wrong with you people, exactly?.....To those people I say: Get some morals, will you, or how about at least acquiring a modicum of taste?...
every one of us with the real thing knows that you’re carrying around a half-assed fake, you tasteless wonder.
– SteveJack, MacDailyNews, August 6, 2012

Sammie vs The Apple...one billionaire arguing with another.
Both should quit the whining and fight it out in the marketplace!

Samsung should bring out a model called THE WORM just to screw with the Apple dweebs. Apple could counter with THE INCHON and flank the bastards.

In my humble opinion.....THEY ALL BLOW.....but what the heck do I know.


19 posted on 05/06/2014 5:36:53 AM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: IronJack

I got a Samsung III Mini lately after tiring of my older iphone not holding a charge, also tiring of Apple’s bloated upgrades that made the phone less appealing and less useful to me.

The Samsung does seem cheesier but I can get by.

What I was wondering—sincerely, not as a jab—is what phone would you think of trying next?


20 posted on 05/06/2014 6:01:47 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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