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California considers asking residents to voluntarily pay tax on every mile they drive
Activist Post ^ | 5-6-2014 | Paul Lawrance

Posted on 05/08/2014 5:15:19 AM PDT by Renfield

The California legislature is considering a voluntary program to ‘tax’ every mile residents drive in order to replace state revenue being lost due to a more frequent use of high miles per gallon vehicles.

The program would reflect similar models used in Washington State and Oregon.

“We want to do as Washington and Oregon have done in a much bigger state with much longer commutes…to make sure that we find out whether it would work, whether the public would like it or not,” Californian Senator Mark DeSaulnier told CBS Los Angeles.

Desaulnier, when he says “like it or not”, is referring to a mandatory tax on miles driven that would replace the gas tax inside the state. The state of California has placed the blame on the use of hybrid and electric cars for decreasing revenue brought in by the gas tax.

People inside California do not seem to be on board with the idea.

“I bought a hybrid…one, because of my drive. I’m very opposed. I drive to Brentwood every day from Burbank, and I am already paying more than I should be,” one Californian told KCAL9.

“So if we go on vacation and I drive up to Mammoth, that’s 600 miles. We’re being taxed on vacations?” another resident complained.

It is not yet known how much the tax would cost motorists.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: california; taxes

1 posted on 05/08/2014 5:15:19 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield
They do already...It's called a gas tax.

I think NYS still wins with the highest combo of state and fed taxes on gas.

2 posted on 05/08/2014 5:16:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Renfield

Here’s an opportunity for all those rich liberals in Hollywood and Silicon Valley to put their money where their mouths are.

Never happen, though.

Taxes are for the little people who work every day to eedk out a middle-class living.


3 posted on 05/08/2014 5:17:36 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Renfield

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/web_gas_taxes.php


4 posted on 05/08/2014 5:18:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Renfield

The Commiefornians have destroyed themselves. It needs to be quarantined to protect the remaining states.


5 posted on 05/08/2014 5:19:12 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: Renfield
voluntary ?

lol

I am sure all those rich liberals will be lining up to pay this “voluntary” tax! (since they always complain the rich dont pay enough)

oh wait!

THEY don't want to pay more! they just want to take the money from OTHER rich people!

6 posted on 05/08/2014 5:19:44 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Renfield
voluntarily pay tax on every mile they drive

Limousine liberals expect their chauffeurs will pay the tax.

7 posted on 05/08/2014 5:21:41 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Renfield

Yeah, my state asks you to voluntarily pay all your sales taxes on internet purchases. They even give you the option to estimate based on your income.

My entry in the little box? $0.


8 posted on 05/08/2014 5:22:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Renfield

We’re rapidly getting to the point where the State wrings every last drop of our essence out until we are enslaved or we revolt.

“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.”


9 posted on 05/08/2014 5:24:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sacajaweau
I think NYS still wins with the highest combo of state and fed taxes on gas.

I think NYS wins the highest tax burden of any state in all tax categories.

10 posted on 05/08/2014 5:24:12 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Ancient Man

I feel for any FReepers that live in Kalifornia. They’ve exported many Kalifornians to Colorado because they couldn’t find work and look what they’ve done to the state. This isn’t just something I’ve read; this is from people I know who live there as well. They’ve said Kalifornia has ruined their state. I suspect the drug trade there has many Kalifornia connections.


11 posted on 05/08/2014 5:25:03 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Renfield

“I really want to pay more taxes”

Said no one ever.

“Voluntary” = We hope this will shut all of you up while we put the infrastructure in place. Then next year there will be a financial crisis and we will “temporarily” make the per-mile tax mandatory.

Forever.


12 posted on 05/08/2014 5:25:19 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Renfield

Hey... here’s an idea California... put some collection boxes on the outbound lanes of the highways near the state border.
That way, people can pay your silly mileage tax on their way out of the state.
You could stand to make a real killing!


13 posted on 05/08/2014 5:25:56 AM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: Westbrook
Well, one has to consider the states overwhelming votes RAT so they may be gullible enough to just do it! Or, since they are stupid enough to elect RATs, the RATs feel they will do it if they ask nicely.
14 posted on 05/08/2014 5:31:01 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Renfield

I’d voluntarily not pay any taxes.

This stupid scheme is about getting it on the books so, years later, they can simply proclaim the law was already passed and “the time seems appropriate, in light of the states needs, children’s imperatives and as an expression that recognizes our glowBull responsibility to mitigate the harmful effects of O2 and our role in poisoning mother earth”


15 posted on 05/08/2014 5:31:04 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Renfield

I’d voluntarily not pay any taxes.

This stupid scheme is about getting it on the books so, years later, they can simply proclaim the law was already passed and “the time seems appropriate, in light of the states needs, children’s imperatives and as an expression that recognizes our glowBull responsibility to mitigate the harmful effects of O2 and our role in poisoning mother earth”


16 posted on 05/08/2014 5:31:10 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: jsanders2001
The liberals from NY are a like a virus, destroying their host state with socialist policies, then moving on to a new "host" to repeat the cycle (VT, CA, South FL, etc).

As a corollary, they are insane, since they expect different results from repeated behaviors.

17 posted on 05/08/2014 5:37:01 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Vendome

“This stupid scheme is about getting it on the books so, years later, they can simply proclaim the law was already passed...”

Yup. It will be “settled law”.


18 posted on 05/08/2014 5:39:41 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s right - vote in Sacramento, which is 2 miles in diameter, to punish LA, which has very long commutes and is spread out. Oh, it’s voluntary? You bet the LA drivers will chip in. not


19 posted on 05/08/2014 5:39:46 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: jsanders2001

New Yorkers have gone to Colorado. Bloomberg and his gazillions are the anti-Second crowd there in Denver.


20 posted on 05/08/2014 5:40:57 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Renfield

Meanwhile, the parasites and illegals get a free pass. I wonder who is going to fire the first shot it the upcoming CW2. It’s going to be ugly, but a lot of people are growing tired of our over the top, non law abiding govt.


21 posted on 05/08/2014 5:44:13 AM PDT by mikefive (RLTW)
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To: Renfield

I expect they will consider a dollar a pack tax on chewing gum to offset the loss of revenue due to people quitting smoking.

I frankly hope they try this. This might be the straw that breaks the Carmel’s back. This will be great because the idiot who keep respecting these clowns will have to actually write a check every year to the government and they may begin to realize that these liberals are robbing them blind.

Right now they are paying about 75 cents a gallon in taxes but they don’t know it because it is just added to the price of a gallon and these idiots all blame the evil greedy oil companies who are only making about 5 cents per gallon.

If they start paying the taxes directly instead of indirectly then they are going to be both educated and pissed.

Bring it on!!

This could be the beginning of the end of the democrats in California.


22 posted on 05/08/2014 5:45:25 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: jsanders2001

You are dead on with your assessment of Kolorado. Just like locusts, they ascended in droves throughout the late 80’s and 90’s. The idiots who coined the term “Colorful Colorado” are getting exactly what they wanted.

My folks live in SE CO (farmers) and have seen the secondary impacts of the dope trade. People living close to these dope warehouses are moving because of the stench.

I worry for Texas with Perry out there touting jobs and such to the commie states. If not careful, in time, TX will turn just as CO did...


23 posted on 05/08/2014 5:46:21 AM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: Renfield
Massachusetts state income tax has a check box that allows you to pay the previous tax rate of 5.6 instead of the current 5.1.

900 out of 3 million tax payers chose the higher rate. No politician, of the tax returns disclosed, paid the higher rate including John Kerry and Chief Spreading Bull Granny Warren.

24 posted on 05/08/2014 5:46:28 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Renfield
What's the purpose of buying a fuel efficient car if it's still going to cost as much to drive?
Yea, saving the planet and all that, but saving money is the best possible incentive. Libs don't seem to believe in that.
Besides, light weight cars are supposed to less wear on the road surface. Is that not so?

25 posted on 05/08/2014 5:48:05 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Renfield

It becomes obvious to me and should to every one else that the enviro movement’s purpose is to herd us all into a cities. I would guess we would be easier to control there. This is turning into a really depressing sci-fi movie.


26 posted on 05/08/2014 5:52:56 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Renfield
Dems have a super majority in Sacramento. I'm surprised they would even “ask”.
27 posted on 05/08/2014 5:53:55 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: AU72
900 out of 3 million tax payers chose the higher rate

I wonder what income bracket the 900 that chose that option were in.

28 posted on 05/08/2014 5:54:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: cuban leaf

In my state, which I think is yours, if they have a physical location here they collect the sales tax automatically. Otherwise my purchases are zero.


29 posted on 05/08/2014 5:55:50 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Renfield

If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street
If you try to sit, I’ll tax your seat
If you get too cold I’ll tax the heat
If you take a walk, I’ll tax your feet


30 posted on 05/08/2014 6:00:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: AU72
Damn...you beat me to it! Yup,the Gay State's most progressive,most caring citizens said “no thanks” when given the *choice* to “pay their fair share”.I'll bet these very same folks take a tax deduction for the donation of used underwear and shower curtains.
31 posted on 05/08/2014 6:04:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: Junk Silver
“I really want to pay more taxes” Said no one ever.

A lot of rich democrats, like Warren Buffett, say that, but then they hire $500 an hour accountants and lawyers to make sure they don't.

32 posted on 05/08/2014 6:06:07 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: from occupied ga
I wonder what income bracket the 900 that chose that option were in.

Those are the idiots that had the IRS help them fill out their forms. Either that or they couldn't read.

33 posted on 05/08/2014 6:08:05 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: cuban leaf
Yeah, my state asks you to voluntarily pay all your sales taxes on internet purchases. They even give you the option to estimate based on your income.My entry in the little box? $0.

It's a bit different in *my* state.My state *demands* that you report any Internet,or out of state,purchase on your tax return.But for us there's another factor...in addition to the Internet about two thirds of my state's residents live within a half hour of two *huge* shopping malls in New Hampshire...which has no sales tax.On any given day the parking lots of these malls are almost entirely filled with cars from Massachusetts.

34 posted on 05/08/2014 6:10:30 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: from occupied ga

Did any one consider that the 900 might have checked the box by mistake, no math skills or other ignorance? Perhaps they could not read cursive,nor print!


35 posted on 05/08/2014 6:10:59 AM PDT by cotton
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To: cotton

I voluntarily choose to not live in kalifornia.


36 posted on 05/08/2014 6:12:36 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: cotton
Did any one consider that the 900 might have checked the box by mistake

Certainly possible.

37 posted on 05/08/2014 6:15:46 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Gay State Conservative
On any given day the parking lots of these malls are almost entirely filled with cars from Massachusetts.

A few years ago undercover Mass. State Police were checking out NH liquor stores and malls near the border around Christmas every year and would nail Massachusetts buyers when they crossed the border. NH got wind of it and told the State Cops to stay the F out of their State.

38 posted on 05/08/2014 6:18:52 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Renfield

Gee will Al Gore and all the Hollywood beautiful people sign up to pay the tax or are such taxes only for the little people?


39 posted on 05/08/2014 6:20:57 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Ancient Man

“The Commiefornians have destroyed themselves. It needs to be quarantined to protect the remaining states.”

No kidding! They are like a cancer. After the host cell is destroyed, they move on....latching on to new cells in Colorado, Arizona, even Texas.

When liberals create their Utopias, they should want to stay, shouldn’t they?


40 posted on 05/08/2014 6:32:28 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Renfield
voluntary-—> mandatory-—> temporary-—> permanent
41 posted on 05/08/2014 6:34:29 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Renfield

“Voluntary” like the Income Tax or Voluntary like you get to choose to pay or not?


42 posted on 05/08/2014 6:49:33 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Sacajaweau

How about levying the tax only on electric and hybrid vehicles? After all if they are not buying gas they are not paying to maintain the roads they are using. I’m sure the greenies would be delighted to do their part.


43 posted on 05/08/2014 6:53:57 AM PDT by center mass
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To: Renfield
The communists Democrats don't give a crap about those that have to drive daily to work and trying to live on an income that cannot keep up with inflation. California is the heaviest communists controlled State in the Nation second to NY.
44 posted on 05/08/2014 7:15:30 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Renfield

Voluntary for a little while, until it isn’t anymore.


45 posted on 05/08/2014 7:23:14 AM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: Renfield

How about an exhale tax? Voluntary of course. Liberals can estimate how many exhales per month or year, get some genius scientist to estimate the amount of CO2 exhaled and then have another genius bureacrat estimate how much tax they should send in.


46 posted on 05/08/2014 7:35:58 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Renfield

***...replace state revenue being lost due to a more frequent use of high miles per gallon vehicles. ****

LOL! It bit them in the butt again, like the city that wanted voluntary reduction in water use in a drought, then demanded a raise in water rates to make up for the loss of water use.


47 posted on 05/08/2014 7:43:43 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

happened here in San Diego ....twice


48 posted on 05/08/2014 8:38:05 AM PDT by Foolsgold (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Renfield

Voluntary?


49 posted on 05/08/2014 11:29:53 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Same happened with conservation on electricity. Then they turn around and add a surcharge to make up for the loss.


50 posted on 05/08/2014 2:05:00 PM PDT by QT3.14
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