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UN Urged to Tell Catholic Church it Has No Right to Oppose Abortion
Cybercast News Service ^ | May 8, 2014 - 1:50 PM | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 05/08/2014 6:43:17 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The Center for Reproductive Rights, a non-governmental organization that advocates for legalized abortion, is urging the United Nations Committee Against Torture to tell the Catholic Church that “the freedom of speech and of religion” do not give the church the right to advocate against abortion.

When the committee met in Geneva on Monday for a hearing on the Vatican’s compliance with the Convention Against Torture, Vice Chairperson Felice Gaer, an American, said in her opening statement that laws that ban all abortion—which is the position of the Catholic Church—may violate the convention. She also repeated verbatim some language that had been in a letter the CRR had sent to the committee on April 11.

Gaer, however, did not quote the section in CRR’s letter that urged the committee to tell the church that the freedoms of religion and speech did not give the church a right to advocate against abortion. …

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; un; vatican

1 posted on 05/08/2014 6:43:17 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

So they want war?


2 posted on 05/08/2014 6:45:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Olog-hai

We need to tear that building down.


3 posted on 05/08/2014 6:45:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Olog-hai

Folks, we will be actively fighting back against this idiocy the rest of our lives, just as liberals keep pushing to define deviancy down.


4 posted on 05/08/2014 6:47:03 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Olog-hai; dcwusmc; Jed Eckert; Recovering Ex-hippie; KingOfVagabonds; Berlin_Freeper; UnRuley1; ...
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Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

5 posted on 05/08/2014 6:49:12 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Olog-hai

Who gives a sh*^ about the UN?


6 posted on 05/08/2014 6:49:14 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: ConservativeMind

Not if we have a national divorce. The sooner the better.


7 posted on 05/08/2014 6:49:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So fetuses have no REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS!


8 posted on 05/08/2014 6:50:14 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: Olog-hai

The demons sure are loose in the world.


9 posted on 05/08/2014 6:52:44 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Olog-hai

I did not realize that the Catholic Church was dependent on the UN for its rights allocation.


10 posted on 05/08/2014 6:55:30 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Olog-hai

In the end, rather than win arguments, the Left always reaches for the gun, or its closest facsimile.

Their way or die, it’s that simple.


11 posted on 05/08/2014 6:57:18 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Olog-hai

What? No, abortion is not torture, its murder.

...as for me and my house, we will follow the Lord.

The UN has no right to tell Catholics what to believe.


12 posted on 05/08/2014 6:59:48 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Like this?


13 posted on 05/08/2014 7:00:34 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Olog-hai

What right do they have to exist?


14 posted on 05/08/2014 7:02:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Olog-hai

I will vote for the person that promises to send these a$$holes packing.


15 posted on 05/08/2014 7:03:16 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Olog-hai

When I first read dystopian SciFi, I always wondered what life would be like in one of those fantastical imaginings.

Now I know. No joke intended. I genuinely know.


16 posted on 05/08/2014 7:05:17 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Olog-hai

Evil. No other word for it.

And where does their money come from — I’d like to know who is financing this so-called “NGO”?


17 posted on 05/08/2014 7:11:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Olog-hai

What they really want to do is kill five or six billion people.


18 posted on 05/08/2014 7:18:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Olog-hai

In other words, the CRR believes the Church is subject to permission of the State to exist. They think wrong.


19 posted on 05/08/2014 7:23:27 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Olog-hai

” “the freedom of speech and of religion” do not give the church the right to advocate against abortion.”

In what universe does this make any sense?


20 posted on 05/08/2014 7:24:33 PM PDT by all the best (sat`~!)
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To: Olog-hai

... And disassembling babies in the womb is not torture.


21 posted on 05/08/2014 7:24:56 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: all the best; Norm Lenhart

Mr. Lenhart nailed it.


22 posted on 05/08/2014 7:30:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: cripplecreek
We need to tear that building down.

I'll tell you right now that if one of those muzzie terrorists had flown a 757 into the UN building I'd have cheered.

I still will should any muslim extremist fly a 757 full of fuel into the UN Building.

23 posted on 05/08/2014 7:31:55 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: blueplum

“The Center for Reproductive Rights, a non-governmental organization that advocates for legalized abortion, is urging the United Nations Committee Against Torture to tell the Catholic Church that ‘the freedom of speech and of religion’ do not give the church the right to advocate against abortion...”
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Hey CRR: No; the rights are unalienable rights, bestowed by the Creator. Him be praised and thanked forever. Amen!

Hey CRR: Be gone in the name of Jesus Christ, thou foul legion of demons!


24 posted on 05/08/2014 7:34:41 PM PDT by Repent and Believe (Promote good. Tolerate the harmless. Let evil be crushed.)
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To: blueplum

Shows the so-called CRR’s thinking to be exactly along the lines of Marxism-Leninism.


25 posted on 05/08/2014 7:41:48 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Or what exactly?


26 posted on 05/08/2014 7:46:16 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Olog-hai

Thought crimes?


27 posted on 05/08/2014 7:55:08 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Olog-hai

I want to throw a molotov cocktail through the UN window during session.


28 posted on 05/08/2014 8:01:12 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Olog-hai

Abort the UN


29 posted on 05/08/2014 8:16:49 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Olog-hai

Funny, they never tell Muslims they have no right to beat women, hang homosexuals, stone rape victims, sodomize children, blow up cafes, crash aircraft in to buildings.....etc....etc....etc...


30 posted on 05/08/2014 8:29:50 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Olog-hai
Pillar of salt?

Fire and Brimstone?

31 posted on 05/08/2014 8:40:01 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Olog-hai

I urge Holy Mother Church to tell the UN to know itself.


32 posted on 05/08/2014 8:47:05 PM PDT by RichInOC (...your newest purveyor of wit, laughter and the Popish creed.)
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To: BenLurkin

You finance them through your tax dollars confiscated at the point of a gun. The U.S. virtually single handedly finances the U.N.


33 posted on 05/08/2014 9:38:44 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Olog-hai
Felice Gaer

Felice Gaer

34 posted on 05/08/2014 9:46:20 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: the_daug

It’s a guy!


35 posted on 05/08/2014 9:50:12 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Olog-hai
Gaer says

Well excuuse me, and my lying eyes. I read and understand the Constitution of the United States a bit differently.

Here's the well intentioned double-talker;

The Jewish community has long promoted international human rights. Felice D. Gaer continues this tradition as director of the Jacob Blaustein Institute for the Advancement of Human Rights at the American Jewish Committee, vice-chair of the U.N. Committee Against Torture, and commissioner on the US Commission on International Religious Freedom. PresenTense spoke to Gaer about how her Jewish values inform her own commitment to human rights, the current tensions between the Jewish community and the wider human rights community, and the importance of finding common ground.

Check it out

Some highlights;

What are some priorities for Jewish human rights activists such as yourself?

"Promoting religious freedom for all, fighting anti-Semitism worldwide, promoting humane treatment for all, stopping torture, ending violence against women, fighting for non-discrimination and equality throughout the world.

Key to these or any human rights advocacy is to ensure accountability for the perpetrators of gross abuses and preventing genocide and gross violations of rights. This is itself a means of protecting the rights of communities we are concerned about. In other words, social justice starts with knowing you have human rights, and claiming them requires that when there are violations, there must be an effective means to complain to and challenge the State, seeking redress for injustice."

What about little Jewish babies? Don't they get a chance to be born? Or shall there be no "social justice" for them if it is inconvenient for the mother? There won't be any more Jews without Jewish mothers. Can't be done. To be born into that religion, the mother is the key. She is the carrier, not the father. Correct? Tell us again about genocide..?

How about little black babies? Can they have some of that social justice stuff, or is that too much to ask?

What are some of the most significant issues that arise in the organized Jewish community’s relationship to the human rights community?
The most significant issues have been (a) finding substantive areas of agreement on issues to address; (b) ensuring there are similar standards for assessing human rights (no double standards) and (c) finding ways to collaborate as well as to speak out for one another, including interacting on the basis of respect for one another.

Can she hear herself talk? She seems to be only half-listening.

After some further questions, with one last being about her "community" and the human rights community (whatever the heck that is) she ends with;

We need to work actively to overcome the divisions and strains between such groups, as there is so much each has in common with the other. Moreover, the issues cry out for attention – religious repression, physical abuse, discrimination, intimidation, violence, dehumanization, and more.

Particular issues that we’re cooperating on are human rights in China, ending torture and giving information to the mothers of Tiananmen Square victims; working to achieve freedom of expression, such as opposing the global blasphemy law and ensuring religious liberties; and supporting the referendum in south Sudan and a comprehensive peace in that region.

Justice for all --- except for the unborn yet in the womb, and no respect for religious rights and freedom of speech for those who speak against the murder of human beings whom are alive, but yet to be born...

Dehumanization? really.

36 posted on 05/08/2014 10:48:45 PM PDT by BlueDragon (The world isn't Crazy. It's just the people in it...)
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To: usconservative

I’ll tell you right now that if one of those muzzie terrorists had flown a 757 into the UN building I’d have cheered.I still will should any muslim extremist fly a 757 full of fuel into the UN Building.
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It would probably take an act like that to unite all countries to declare “war” on muslim terriorists and sharia.

I’d like to see a referendum on the 2016 ballots that asked if US voters would favor requiring the UN to leave the US.


37 posted on 05/09/2014 2:43:58 AM PDT by octex
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To: usconservative

I’ll tell you right now that if one of those muzzie terrorists had flown a 757 into the UN building I’d have cheered.

...perhaps...if the building were cleared of its occupants beforehand (which it wouldn’t be)...but if you’re indifferent to the people being inside, then I’ll tell you right now...that’s ghoulish...


38 posted on 05/09/2014 2:30:27 PM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: IrishBrigade
.but if you’re indifferent to the people being inside, then I’ll tell you right now...that’s ghoulish...

Ask me if I care. I'd be dancing in street throwing candy and flitting my tongue like a fat palestinian b*tch on 9-11 knowing the worthless UN and those who enable it would be dead.

That's not a bad thing. They'd be getting what they deserve.

39 posted on 05/09/2014 2:36:28 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Olog-hai
The Center for Reproductive Rights, a non-governmental organization that advocates for legalized abortion, is urging the United Nations Committee Against Torture to tell the Catholic Church that “the freedom of speech and of religion” do not give the church the right to advocate against abortion.

Huh? What?

5.56mm

40 posted on 05/09/2014 2:40:09 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: All

This is not nice to say- But why are those vehmently for abortion usually a woman who would still be left alone in a bar at closing time, or could not stir interest when being dumped in the middle of an all-male prison?


41 posted on 05/09/2014 8:06:48 PM PDT by hearthwench (Debbi - Mom, NaNa, and always ornery)
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To: M Kehoe
I like this part: The Center for Reproductive Rights, a non-governmental organization that advocates for legalized abortion, is urging the United Nations Committee Against Torture to tell the Catholic Church that “the freedom of speech and of religion” do not give the church the right to advocate against abortion.
42 posted on 05/10/2014 12:33:35 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: cyn

they know they are full of crap


43 posted on 05/10/2014 12:39:34 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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United Nations Committee Against Torture promotes the killing of nascent, human life — so Orwellian, so unexpected...

Christianity is a threat to these deranged elitists.


44 posted on 05/10/2014 2:06:42 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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