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Colorado Woman Canít Get Her Gun Back, Thanks To New Law
Daily Caller ^ | 05/09/2014 | Greg Campbell

Posted on 05/10/2014 7:35:51 AM PDT by Rusty0604

Sara Warren said Fort Collins police took her Ruger SR9, which she uses for personal protection in her job as a maid when visiting clients’ homes, after an accident required her to be transported to the hospital.

The police want to give it back, but a new universal background check law passed last year amid much controversy requires a Federal Firearms License background check.

Fort Collins police don’t have an FFL holder on staff.

“We had an opinion from our city attorney and district attorney not to return firearms without a (Federal Firearms License) check, and we don’t have an FFL person in our office,” Fort Collins deputy chief Jim Szakmeister told the Loveland Reporter Herald.

The police have hit on a one-time solution and are arranging for Warren and others in a similar situation to meet officers at a local outdoor store with an FFL license. Szakmeister told the newspaper he’s not sure who will pay for the background checks.

“We’re working on a long-term solution,” he said. “The greatest solution would be for the legislators to put in a police exemption. Otherwise we’re probably going to have to get an FFL and find someone in the office willing to work in that capacity.”

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Sounds like a well thought out plan./sarc

Not even a police exemption.

1 posted on 05/10/2014 7:35:51 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

So whoever took away her gun without a background check should be a felon for breaking the law. Three of the “legislatures” that wrote this law have been recalled form office.


2 posted on 05/10/2014 7:39:44 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

Yes, the legislators were tyrants. However, it seems the police, etc. are at least trying to accommodate her rights however they can.


3 posted on 05/10/2014 7:46:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: mountainlion

Yes, the ‘taking’ by a non FFL person seems to be a violation.


4 posted on 05/10/2014 7:47:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Rusty0604

In the absence of common sense, I suggest she take whatever action is necessary to ensure her personal safety.


5 posted on 05/10/2014 7:48:48 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Rusty0604

Legislators, police - All have acted stupidly.


6 posted on 05/10/2014 7:49:25 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Gaffer

Politicians make laws and bureaucrats make regulations without any thought to details or consequences.


7 posted on 05/10/2014 7:53:15 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

That is agreed. And not all ‘regulations, guidelines and rules’ have legal basis given by legislated laws.


8 posted on 05/10/2014 7:54:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Rusty0604
Fort Collins police don’t have an FFL holder on staff.

There's a lot more to this - otherwise, they'd march down to the local gun dealer and pay him or her a fee for the transaction. It's no different than any firearm I've purchased online from Auction Arms or Gunbroker, and had sent to an FFL of my choosing.

Which were all subsequently lost in a horribly violent boating accident.
9 posted on 05/10/2014 7:56:26 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Rusty0604

“The police want to give it back, but a new universal background check law passed last year amid much controversy requires a Federal Firearms License background check.

Fort Collins police don’t have an FFL holder on staff.

“We had an opinion from our city attorney and district attorney not to return firearms without a (Federal Firearms License) check, and we don’t have an FFL person in our office,” Fort Collins deputy chief Jim Szakmeister told the Loveland Reporter Herald.”

This is complete and utter bullshit. The police could simply have any FFL in the state make the transfer for them, even if in the worst case the FFL first bought the gun from them for a nominal fee of $1.00, which would require NO background check, and then turned around and sold it to the woman for $1.00.

Heck, I think I’ll call them or her and volunteer to do it for free!


10 posted on 05/10/2014 8:05:30 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Gaffer
"The police are trying to accommodate her rights"

Now THAT is a chilling phrase, although you intended it as a compliment to the PD.

11 posted on 05/10/2014 8:17:20 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Rusty0604

Refusing to return the gun upon demand is conversion. In IN she could seek treble damages and attorney fees.


12 posted on 05/10/2014 8:18:55 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Rusty0604

sounds like it was illegally siezed if they have no ffl. so they don’t legallyhave it in the first ace. id give it back with a wink and a nod


13 posted on 05/10/2014 8:19:10 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I really didn’t intend it as a compliment, but rather as an affirmation that what they tried to do in agreeing to meet at a third party FFL location, was what they SHOULD have done. Still, it is a chilling remark given that this is not what most any Democrat infested locale or state gets from their law enforcement.


14 posted on 05/10/2014 8:19:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Rusty0604
Hence the axiom among old pistoleros, "One gun is none. Two guns is one." Make it a point to keep plenty of "spares" on hand.
15 posted on 05/10/2014 8:43:00 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Rusty0604; george76

Perhaps she can get backing from the Independence Institute (Based in Colorado), take this to court and get the law thrown out. She definitely has standing to do so.
Then she can sue the hell out of those bums.

Colorado ping.


16 posted on 05/10/2014 8:47:57 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You are right, that IS a chilling phrase.


17 posted on 05/10/2014 8:48:02 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: andyk

Sounds like the woman needs to get a constitutional lawyer and sue for the law to be overturned as she’s been denied property and given no recourse to have it returned within the law.


18 posted on 05/10/2014 8:55:58 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Rusty0604

I know, lets pass another gun law in the dead of night before anybody reads it.


19 posted on 05/10/2014 8:57:43 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2
I know, lets pass another gun law in the dead of night before anybody reads it.

We have to pass the bill to find out what's in it. And we can throw in a 2-round limit to all magazines!

20 posted on 05/10/2014 9:08:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Paging David Kopel...


21 posted on 05/10/2014 9:19:08 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: RandallFlagg; MileHi; dhs12345; dynachrome; Balata; bboop; BulletBobCo; Carley; ColoCowgirl; ...

Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


22 posted on 05/10/2014 9:25:05 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: MileHi

I just sent them a message with a link to this article.


23 posted on 05/10/2014 9:29:01 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: catnipman
It's my understanding that basically any individual with $200 and a clean background check can get an FFL, isn't that correct? For heaven's sake these guys are making it sound

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like rocket scientology!

24 posted on 05/10/2014 9:33:08 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: RandallFlagg

Well done


25 posted on 05/10/2014 9:35:36 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: Rusty0604

hire a local gun shop operator until pd can get their own.

problem solved.


26 posted on 05/10/2014 10:02:14 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: andyk

Methinks the police do not want to solve the problem they have created.

Options (beyond their desire that citizens be disarmed and helpless):
1) The police desire to sell her property or want her gun for themselves;
2) The police have already sold her gun or allowed it to be stolen (perhaps the SN is already ground off for use as a drop gun);
3) Union featherbedding — they want $150,000 per year in extra funding for an in-house FFL holder, to check the occasional item. Will make excuses why paying a reputable business $500 a year wouldn’t work. Like Obama attacking WWII veterans during “sequestration”, they are abusing this woman to get what they want.

This needs an independent investigation. Who is in charge of Ft. Collings, CO PD and government?


27 posted on 05/10/2014 10:07:30 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Fightin Whitey
Please do yourself a big favor and don't sigh up for a FFL. Every state is different-every FFL agent is different and interprets the law differently. The ATF is a large clown show with no ring master.
28 posted on 05/10/2014 10:16:01 AM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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