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R. Budd Dwyer
5/11/14 | POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Posted on 05/11/2014 1:19:59 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Does anyone here remember R.Budd Dwyer, the politician who committed suicide on national TV during a press conference?


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KEYWORDS: budddwyer; dwyer; pennsylania; pennsylvania; rbudddwyer; republican; suicide
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1 posted on 05/11/2014 1:19:59 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Only secondarily through Filter’s “Hey Man Nice Shot!”


2 posted on 05/11/2014 1:21:02 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Yeah. A sick, sad man that hurt others as he decided to ditch his mortal coil. I’ll pray for his soul.


3 posted on 05/11/2014 1:23:13 AM PDT by Yossarian
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

He was a Republican in the Pennsylvania State Senate, representing the state’s 50th District.


4 posted on 05/11/2014 1:25:05 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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To: Yossarian

I ask because I’ve never heard of a Politian killing themselves on national TV.


5 posted on 05/11/2014 1:26:48 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

*Politician


6 posted on 05/11/2014 1:28:07 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I saw the unedited tape. He ate a S&W .357 right there in front if a bunch of reporters.

Very sad.


7 posted on 05/11/2014 1:40:07 AM PDT by SargeK
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I remember it. “No, Bud, No....”

At the time, one of the local TV stations showed the video and caught heck for it. He was PA treasurer at the time, if I recall correctly.


8 posted on 05/11/2014 1:42:42 AM PDT by MilesVeritatis (Devote yourself to the truth, no matter where it leads you.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I recall it very well since I had not left for Texas. I saw it live on channel 11 in Pittsburgh. The other stations, when they did the replays, edited out the shot but channel 11 kept it in, showing the whole thing. I think there was one station over in Philly that showed the whole thing. It’s on Youtube.


9 posted on 05/11/2014 1:45:50 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex

I saw it on YouTube and I was flabbergasted.

It didn’t seem real. It was like something out of a movie.


10 posted on 05/11/2014 1:52:07 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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To: SargeK

Isn’t that the most powerful handgun?


11 posted on 05/11/2014 1:53:01 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Dwyer was about to go to prison, but because he hadn't yet been removed from office, his widow received his sizable state pension. It's believed Dwyer chose that time to off himself so that his family could be provided for.
12 posted on 05/11/2014 2:14:28 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: re_nortex

I believe Channel 11 only showed the actual shooting in an early broadcast. By the evening news the footage was edited so the suicide wasn’t shown.


13 posted on 05/11/2014 2:17:00 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

If you can use google you can watch the video


14 posted on 05/11/2014 2:21:56 AM PDT by woofie
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
The video isavailable if you choose to watch it. It is graphic, though.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=860c9b9f3b

15 posted on 05/11/2014 2:22:23 AM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I remember it well...I was a Senior in HS in PA at the time, taking a few courses part time at a local university. A few years later, I dated a gal whose dad was a speech writer in Harrisburg, and had been in the front row at Dwyer’s presser. My GFs dad had been deeply traumatized by the experience.


16 posted on 05/11/2014 2:27:25 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Hey man, nice shot.
Song was written about him.
He blew his brains out live on TV.


17 posted on 05/11/2014 2:28:44 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
I've seen the video. He had the gun in a paper bag, IIRC.

I was slightly amused when someone in the crowd started hollering, 'Somebody get a doctor!'

18 posted on 05/11/2014 2:48:08 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Disharmonious & Unmutual)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

There are a few that I’d pay to watch on pay per view if they’d off themselves.


19 posted on 05/11/2014 2:53:20 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
.357 is pretty powerful, but Clint Eastwood made the .44 Magnum famous with his 'most powerful handgun in the world' line.

A couple of more powerful ones have come out since then, the .454 Casull and the S&W .500.

20 posted on 05/11/2014 2:55:35 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Disharmonious & Unmutual)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Not the most powerful, but close. Dirty Harry carried a .44 magnum, considerably more powerful than .357 magnum, and there is a .41 magnum, and now, some even bigger, like .454 Casull and some .50 caliber rounds.

All that said, .357 is quite a handful.

21 posted on 05/11/2014 2:57:51 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I remember it. Didn’t it have to do with awarding computer contracts. I lived in PA at the time.

What year did it happen?


22 posted on 05/11/2014 4:16:27 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired
1987. I was home with the flu and saw it live.

Dwyer was convicted of accepting a bribe from a California firm being considered for a contract to correct errors in federal withholding for state employees.

23 posted on 05/11/2014 4:31:00 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

There is no need for honor anymore. Today, someone like Dwyer would keep the appeals going while serving in office....then, he would retire with full pension and cut a plea deal.

Back then, prosecutors were tenacious tigers who protected the public from political malfeasance.

Today, those prosecutors are looking for a seat at the table of power, so cutting a deal, going lenient or mishandling the case earn points with the political party machine that can be used for political office later on.


24 posted on 05/11/2014 4:37:11 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: re_nortex

I was in Harrisburg at the time. WGAL showed the entire event.

There was a strategy in play. This happened on Super Bowl Sunday(da Bears). Dwyer had just been convicted in court of some malfeasance. He had not been sentenced but I believe that was to happen the following day. Once sentenced, his state pension and other benefits would be lost to him and his family.

Bud shot himself that Sunday so that he could not be sentenced. The state went after his pension anyway and the courts have ruled that since he was never sentenced that the family could still receive his pension and other benefits.


25 posted on 05/11/2014 4:45:27 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn

That was some bleed-out. A must see for anyone contemplating the same with a large caliber weapon.


26 posted on 05/11/2014 5:08:44 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: South40

I made the mistake of choosing to watch it.
Not a Sunday morning video.


27 posted on 05/11/2014 5:21:27 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Yah,saw a video on youtube of his demise.Didn't read up on the case so there's no way for me to know if there was politics involved.Gruesome for sure...but then violent death usually is.
28 posted on 05/11/2014 5:23:05 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I remember when this happened. He was charged with some type of wrong doing (don’t remember the specific charge, but if I recall correctly, it was not that serious.) He called a press conference in which he rambled for several minutes, was visibly upset, then reached into a bag, pulled out a gun, and shot himself. It’s not a video you would want to see.


29 posted on 05/11/2014 5:26:58 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I would not mind seeing a few libtards doing a Budd Dwyer on live TV...


30 posted on 05/11/2014 5:45:29 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Yes I had the misfortune to see it live. Gave me nightmares for days afterwards.


31 posted on 05/11/2014 6:03:28 AM PDT by Gefn (More cowbell)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I don’t remember it, but I heard about it through Filter, and then saw the video. Nasty, but people should see what death looks like.


32 posted on 05/11/2014 6:11:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I was on duty, working in the media on January 22, 1987. There was a snowstorm that day to boot.

What an awful thing. The television stations did some editing but there was plenty of criticism about showing it in the middle of the day with kids home from school because of the snow.

As a Pennsylvanian, the Budd Dwyer Case is an illustration of the pandemic of corruption in the political system of Pennsylvania that continues to this day.

When I go to vote in the primary on May 20th I will have that in mind in not supporting my corrupt Republican Governor Tom Corbett who is buying his re-election with a 28 cent a gallon gas tax hike to support highway and bridge construction companies, mass transit companies and unionized workers who will all give some of the money back in campaign gifts to politicians like him.

I writing in a name for governor when I vote. Bob Guzzardi.


33 posted on 05/11/2014 6:13:01 AM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: SargeK

Noon New....Channel 11 in pittsbugh showed it live for the lunch time crowd.
BTW....it was a Dan Wesson.


34 posted on 05/11/2014 6:15:28 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Not the most powerful handgun, but more than sufficient for his purpose.


35 posted on 05/11/2014 6:23:28 AM PDT by SargeK
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To: tired&retired

1987.


36 posted on 05/11/2014 6:24:01 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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To: Yorlik803

Hmm. I believe you are correct on the Dan Wesson. Ventilated rib on the barrel and the frame does look a little small for an N frame S&W.


37 posted on 05/11/2014 6:26:51 AM PDT by SargeK
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To: Joe 6-pack

I would imagine.

I wonder how many of the people who witnessed it sought out therapy. I know I would have needed to.


38 posted on 05/11/2014 6:33:20 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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To: GreenHornet

I’ve already seen it.

I can’t believe the cameraman zoomed in on it. But that’s the media for you. They don’t care.


39 posted on 05/11/2014 6:41:48 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Dwyer was a pretty good trombone player.


40 posted on 05/11/2014 6:45:08 AM PDT by Benito Cereno
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To: real saxophonist

‘Twas a bit too late for a doctor.


41 posted on 05/11/2014 6:48:09 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Isn’t that the most powerful handgun

Now you've done it...
42 posted on 05/11/2014 6:53:31 AM PDT by golux
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

If it bleeds, it leads.
But Cant blame him. That’s a shot of a lifetime. Maybe he was too transfixed by the horror to turn away.


43 posted on 05/11/2014 7:26:20 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Ironically, R. Budd Dwyer has somewhat entered the Internet as a meme, and has been used by several “musical” groups.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer#Legacy


44 posted on 05/11/2014 7:40:26 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: South40

amazing how long the heart keeps pumping when the brain is shut down.


45 posted on 05/11/2014 8:35:20 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Saw the replay of it the day it happened.

One coud be forgiven for imagining its becoming a trend in DC.

46 posted on 05/11/2014 10:28:36 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Yup. That was awful.


47 posted on 05/11/2014 10:55:09 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Yorlik803

Just like seeing a car wreck or a train wreck. You’re horrified but you can’t look away.


48 posted on 05/11/2014 1:44:59 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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To: real saxophonist

The man also said ‘Get an ambulance’. The paramedics would have been useless!


49 posted on 05/12/2014 3:19:31 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I’ve also seen the horrific ‘accident’ that claimed the lives of Vic Morrow and the two kids he was carrying.

I could not stop sobbing. It was one of the most horrific things I have ever seen.

Thank God it was quick.


50 posted on 05/12/2014 3:38:00 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Well......Bye.)
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