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Tiny houses a way off the streets for Wisconsin homeless
news ^ | Brendan O'Brien

Posted on 05/11/2014 8:43:13 AM PDT by JoeProBono

MADISON, Wisconsin (Reuters) - After surviving two long, cold Wisconsin winters on the streets, Betty Ybarra traded freezing park benches and tents for a tiny house made of recycled wood she helped build herself. Her 99-square-foot home, which boasts flower window boxes, was built by volunteers of the Occupy Madison group, as part of about a half dozen similar projects around the United States, including in New York and Texas, to shelter the homeless. "We can check on our flowers and we can now try to live a normal life," said Ybarra, 49, who shares her new home with her friend Chris Derrick, 55, who had also been homeless.

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Tiny Houses for Homeless. In this Jan. 16, 2014 photo Betty Ybarra, 48, stands outside a tiny houses she and her boyfriend live in, in Madison, Wis.


1 posted on 05/11/2014 8:43:13 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Ybarra? Sounds hispanic. The only homeless I ever see are white or black. No asians either.


2 posted on 05/11/2014 8:46:14 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: JoeProBono
"We can check on our flowers and we can now try to live a normal life," said Ybarra, 49, who shares her new home with her friend Chris Derrick, 55, who had also been homeless.

What do Ybarra and Chris do for work? The article failed to mention what their job occupations were.

3 posted on 05/11/2014 8:48:38 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: JoeProBono

4 posted on 05/11/2014 8:49:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Ybarra is a surname of Basque origin, and may refer to: Javier Ybarra Bergé, Basque industrialist, writer, and politician; Jason Ybarra, American actor, stuntman


5 posted on 05/11/2014 8:50:19 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum


6 posted on 05/11/2014 8:51:44 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

It’s a nice idea, and good luck to them. But I think they’ll find that their “village” will soon turn into a cesspool of drugs, theft, and filth. Folks who are homeless for any length of time usually seem to have addictions and/or mental problems.


7 posted on 05/11/2014 8:53:37 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: JoeProBono

This is a PROGRAM that’s gonna work!!!!! (SARC)


8 posted on 05/11/2014 8:54:56 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains
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To: JoeProBono

Posted 5/10 with 95 replies:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3154489/posts


9 posted on 05/11/2014 8:55:13 AM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: A_perfect_lady


10 posted on 05/11/2014 8:56:00 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This picture reminds me of a barrio in Bogota, Colombia, although these hovels look more upscale than the ones I saw there. Where was this picture taken?

Interesting to see all the satellite dishes in this pix.


11 posted on 05/11/2014 8:57:23 AM PDT by miele man
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To: SamAdams76

Homeless is a full time occupation. Note the PU truck, which I will assume is theirs. (Some LEO please run the plate to confirm.) 99% of these citizens are happy with their homeless occupation. The Peoples Republic of Madisonstan has just built a village with a RAT voting booth in the next 99 sqft home. Oh joy to the homeless world.


12 posted on 05/11/2014 8:59:00 AM PDT by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack will be back in 2014!)
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To: upchuck
Oh good, thanks for your vig·i·lance ˈvijələns/ noun: vigilance the action or state of keeping careful watch for possible danger or difficulties.
13 posted on 05/11/2014 8:59:51 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Wonder what property taxes she pays.


14 posted on 05/11/2014 9:00:48 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Satellite/Dish TV sure has a lot of customers don’t they. Makes you wonder who’s paying for that.?


15 posted on 05/11/2014 9:02:10 AM PDT by WesternPacific (The herded sheep have finally arrived at the slaughter house.)
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To: JoeProBono

I like that. Of course my dream is to live on a boat. Just can’t talk hubby into it. lol


16 posted on 05/11/2014 9:03:51 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Doctor 2Brains
This is a PROGRAM that’s gonna work!!!!! (SARC)

Just wait until someone sues because it doesn't meet the standards of the Americans With Disabilities Act.

Before you know it these cubicles will have to have 3000 sq. ft. of space to accommodate wheel chairs.

Just watch.

17 posted on 05/11/2014 9:07:01 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: miele man

Venezuela. I was just looking for a picture that would illustrate what is to come.


18 posted on 05/11/2014 9:07:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: sheana


19 posted on 05/11/2014 9:08:16 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

The assumption is always that the ‘homeless’ want off the streets. Study after study has shown that the vast majority of folks living on the streets have substance abuse problems and/or mental health issues. Most do not want help.

For those who want help there are plenty of programs out there.


20 posted on 05/11/2014 9:08:49 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: JoeProBono

Install 150 of those per acre and see what it looks like.


21 posted on 05/11/2014 9:09:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: JoeProBono
Nothing new under the sun.

Or the snow either.

22 posted on 05/11/2014 9:12:23 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Doctor 2Brains

at least cheaper than motels to house them in...problem is many are drug addicted or with mental health issues.

It would be better to have a supervised dorm bldg with tiny effeciency apts..That worked out well for homeless Vets in NY city..all the services they needed were offices on the ground floor, voc rehab, computers for job applications, Va reps to help them register for health and mental healt care at the VA, etc.. No alcohol or drugs were allowed. The vets that were living there saw it as a transition, not permanent.


23 posted on 05/11/2014 9:14:55 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: TaMoDee
Several years ago, Austin, Texas was going to build homes, providing job training, psychological services, drug rehab, etc... for the "homeless". The all knowing City officials agreed to spend millions of taxpayer money on their feel good programs.

At one of the final meetings, someone asked if the city officials had thought to ask the "homeless" if they wanted homes, jobs, and other planned services? Nobody had thought to ask the poor homeless if they needed or even wanted help.

One of the local news stations interviewed several homeless and nearly everyone interviewed said they lived on the streets because they didn't want the responsibilities of having a home, working, paying bills, etc. They liked the freedom of living on the streets, under the radar.

I believe it was finally decided that the existing services provided by the local Churches and private sector, for the city's homeless, was more than enough.

24 posted on 05/11/2014 9:21:42 AM PDT by WesternPacific (The herded sheep have finally arrived at the slaughter house.)
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To: JoeProBono

Well... at least she was sweeping. LOL! But seriously, no matter how poor I am (and I have been POOR) I was always stringently tidy. Homeless people are not like that. I live in Los Angeles, man, they are disgusting. And every panhandler claims to be a Vietnam veteran.


25 posted on 05/11/2014 9:23:27 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: sheana

I have those boat fantasies too... I don’t know the first thing about boats, but man... I do dream about it.


26 posted on 05/11/2014 9:24:55 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: JoeProBono

I’ll take a whole bunch of number 6s over number 4s.


27 posted on 05/11/2014 9:31:49 AM PDT by redhawk.44mag
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Install 150 of those per acre and see what it looks like

A modern subdivision. Especially out here in Arizona.

28 posted on 05/11/2014 9:34:06 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: JoeProBono

99 sq/ft? I’ve had bedrooms bigger than that (10x10)!!!


29 posted on 05/11/2014 9:37:20 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Many Homeless are just one of three things—A) Scam artists making a good living off of the public. B) Addicted adults who are looking for a fix or the next bottle of Booze, or C) Mentally ill people who should be in an instution to get the help they need.


30 posted on 05/11/2014 9:42:19 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: WesternPacific; A_perfect_lady

“Nobody had thought to ask the poor homeless if they needed or even wanted help.”

This.

“no matter how poor I am (and I have been POOR) I was always stringently tidy.”

And this.

Those who will not make an effort to care for themselves and will not accept help can’t be helped. They don’t have the same goals you do.


31 posted on 05/11/2014 9:42:34 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: sheana

My dream too till I married an Iowa girl. I took her to the boat show when we first got married and the smallest boat she would agree to was a Golden Egg Harbor 64...


32 posted on 05/11/2014 9:51:33 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: ctdonath2

“no matter how poor I am (and I have been POOR) I was always stringently tidy.... Not bitchin’, not criticizing, not picking an argument, but there are NO poor in the US. The sooner we spread this truth, the faster we uplift everybody.


33 posted on 05/11/2014 9:51:38 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: JoeProBono

I would hope Freepers would be a little more compassionate on this issue.
Getting some land and a smaller home, as say compared to a Mcmansion owned by the bank, seems to be the gateway to self sufficiency.

The other issue is - in such a living situation, coding, tax and other essential regulations are revealed as the corrupt, restrictions on freedom mandated by the state.


34 posted on 05/11/2014 9:54:17 AM PDT by dk88 (Outlaw)
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To: JoeProBono

Well, it beats this idiotic idea,
“New York Mayor Bill de Blasio presented plans to build and preserve 200,000 units of affordable housing in the next decade by increasing rent protections for the poor and requiring developers to include below-market apartments in newly zoned areas.

The $41.1 billion program, paid for with city, state, federal and private funds, would focus 60 percent on preservation and 40 percent on new construction. About $8.2 billion of the cost would be borne by the city, according to a 116-page report detailing the plan, which de Blasio called the “largest, fastest” affordable-housing program ever attempted at the local level.

De Blasio, 52, a self-described progressive and the city’s first Democratic mayor in 20 years, took office in January after describing income inequality as the most serious issue facing the most populous U.S. city. He turned his attention to housing today after pushing the state legislature in March to grant the city $300 million to institute universal all-day pre-kindergarten.”

That’s BILLION with a B!
More here http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-05/de-blasio-unveils-41-billion-plan-for-affordable-housing.html


35 posted on 05/11/2014 9:55:53 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: sheana

Aks me! Aks me! I’ll buy the damn thing! (You just clean the deck, scrape the barnacles and paint some of it every once in a while). Was that sexist/misogynist/ racist or homophobic or something? I don’t feel good about this post. Oh, well.


36 posted on 05/11/2014 9:57:25 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: TaMoDee

My 37 yo nephew is a perfect example of why this won’t work.

I found him (and his dad paid for - including utilities) a 2 bedroom rental house in a passable section of the small town I live in. It was within 6 blocks of literally *everything* including the free stuff like the library, so he barely needed his bicycle. I helped get him a job at a local nursery that was close enough to walk to, but they actually gave him rides to and from work. A nice family owned business. My wife and I helped him in all sorts of ways.

He worked 3 weeks then stopped going (I told him he was going to end up back on the street - he said he did not care). He has depression and alcoholism and refuses to deal with it (nor will his dad get him to a doctor and on some antidepressants - total denial).

He then spent the next nine months drunk and drugged up. Still, he was housed, fed and off the street, right? Nope he proceeds to get arrested twice for public intoxication because he wouldn’t stay in his free house when he was loaded. At the end of a year he just walked off, no notice to the landlord (a friend of mine) leaving behind leaky pipes he never bothered to tell her about. Damn mess.

So he sold the stuff we gave him, bought a bus ticket to Florida and two days after arriving gets arrested for punching his druggie mother. Now, after two months in jail, he is living at his dad’s and no one knows what to do with him. All anyone knows for sure is that my wife and I are done with him. His living on the street is by choice.

I’m sure that a lot of the homeless are like him.


37 posted on 05/11/2014 10:03:46 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: A_perfect_lady

We actually own a 40 ft sailboat and if it was just me I could live on it. With another person? No way!


38 posted on 05/11/2014 10:07:38 AM PDT by sheana
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To: outofsalt

Well I wouldn’t want to live with another person on anything less than a 60 foot motor yacht....a 70 fter even better. At least double decks. lol
Just me? Our 40 ft sailboat would be fine.


39 posted on 05/11/2014 10:09:37 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Many? I’d say MOST of them are one of those three things. Some of them are all 3.


40 posted on 05/11/2014 10:10:30 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Safetgiver

lol We already own a sailboat and are currently looking for a 40 ft motoryacht to upgrade to. For me there would be nothing better than living on a larger motoryacht but Hubby says.....no place for my stuff.
I survived breast cancer so to me ‘stuff’ doesn’t really matter anymore.


41 posted on 05/11/2014 10:11:58 AM PDT by sheana
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To: JoeProBono

Not big enough. ;) I need a condo on the water.


42 posted on 05/11/2014 10:13:04 AM PDT by sheana
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To: dk88
Compassion has nothing to do with it. There are a lot of people moving into this lifestyle. Just search for " tiny houses" and you'll find blogs everywhere. Thing is, the people doing it are sustainability activists, or survivalists, or peppers. NOT " homeless." And as a result, they will be hounded by the federal government endlessly.

What we are now seeing is media/government bureaucrats saying to themselves, "oh, tiny houses are a thing now? We like that! We can cram thousands into an encampment where we control everyone and call it ' tiny house sustainability / urban permaculture!" Government is evil.

43 posted on 05/11/2014 10:13:55 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: ponygirl

Preppers, not peppers. Don’t like this iPad keyboard .


44 posted on 05/11/2014 10:16:35 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Safetgiver

Not bitchin’, not criticizing, not picking an argument, but there are NO poor in the US. The sooner we spread this truth, the faster we uplift everybody.

You may be right, I don't know how you define "poor." When I was in my late 20s, I had a job working as a rental agent but it was only 30 hours a week, and was minimum wage. I had a cute little apartment in a decent neighborhood, a tv and basic cable (back then it meant I could see FOX, CNN, MTV and the big three.) I had no phone, health insurance, or car, but I did have electricity, a little window unit a/c, a gas stove and a refrigerator. I had about $30 a week for food, but fortunately I actually LIKE rice and beans and ramen. I'd say I was pretty poor by US standards, but by, say, Ethiopian? Probably not.

45 posted on 05/11/2014 10:16:44 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: dk88
I would hope Freepers would be a little more compassionate on this issue.

It's not that we lack compassion, just that we are mostly experienced enough to know that the majority of homeless will not use any freebies to "better themselves." They'll merely accept the freebies with a big, toothless smile and a great deal of flattery, and then settle back to enjoy it while congratulating themselves on how well they played that. And they'll wait for you to bring more.

Most of them are like stray cats. If you feed them, they do not spend their newfound time and energy going to night school. They spend it wandering around and getting laid. Unlike stray cats, they aren't as cute.

46 posted on 05/11/2014 10:20:10 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I’m sure that a lot of the homeless are like him.

Yes, I tried to help a family member once too. Cocaine, erratic behavior, couldn't hold down a job, had to bail out her car after a ton of tickets and a boot... I gave up too, before I got pulled under along with her.

Fortunately, this story has a happy ending. She had a child and discovered purpose. Now she lives in a better house than I do! LOL! But it was a decision she had to make. I couldn't do it for her. I couldn't do anything for her.

47 posted on 05/11/2014 10:24:50 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Nifster

Until about the mid60s we had those institutions to care for the mentally ill and addicted but in their wisdom someone decided that such places were unnecessary and that they would should be released. I believe a close relationship exists between the closing of such institutions and the rise in the homeless population. The economic downtrend has added to the homeless problem but I don’t think it is the main factor.


48 posted on 05/11/2014 10:37:43 AM PDT by Nuocmam
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To: Nuocmam

Wish I had an RV and was a nomad. Screw property taxes.


49 posted on 05/11/2014 10:48:46 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Um, where’s the water and sewer? Do these meet sanitary building codes?


50 posted on 05/11/2014 10:49:57 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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