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This High-Paying Job Has 235,600 Unfilled Positions Across The US
Business Insider ^ | 05/11/2014 | RICH SMITH, THE MOTLEY FOOL

Posted on 05/11/2014 7:19:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 05/11/2014 7:19:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

mmm...

Isn’t truck driving one of those jobs where the earnings have actually gone down (compared to inflation) in the last 20 years?


2 posted on 05/11/2014 7:23:20 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SeekAndFind

The Feds have ruined trucking with their hours of service regulations. They fully intend for Mexicans to take over the industry.


3 posted on 05/11/2014 7:23:43 PM PDT by Sporke
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To: SeekAndFind

Which also means you regularly have a situation where you can not drive enough to make it worth doing.

Skyrocketing trucking costs in fuel and maintenance and requirements to NOT work as many hours = crappy job and pay.

So you are away from home, can’t drive when you want to be driving and aren’t completing as many hauls as you need to be.

Yeah, sounds like a great career.


4 posted on 05/11/2014 7:23:46 PM PDT by Advil000
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To: SeekAndFind

The self driving vehicle will soon rectify that.


5 posted on 05/11/2014 7:24:25 PM PDT by DannyTN
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“The new rules require that drivers take 34 hours off between work weeks, including two full nights of rest, and cannot work more than 70 hours in any given week.”

Who do I have to *BLEEP* to get that ‘vacation-like’ schedule? LOL!


6 posted on 05/11/2014 7:25:32 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SeekAndFind
The new rules require that drivers take 34 hours off between work weeks, including two full nights of rest, and cannot work more than 70 hours in any given week.

I have to agree with these rules, especially since I share the roads with trucks. I'm exhausted after working 40 (hard) hours a week. I can't imagine being surrounded by idiot car drivers and being responsible for a large, powerful machine for almost twice that much time.

I suspect that part of the shortage isn't just due to these new rules, though. I suspect that a lot of it is that people have made fun of truckers to the point that "truck driver" is the punch line to a lot of jokes. Combine that with the hours and being away from your family, and it's not hard to understand the shortage.

7 posted on 05/11/2014 7:28:59 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Please excuse the potholes in this tagline. Social programs have to take priority in our funding.)
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To: Sporke

That’s especially true with the legal wranglings already under way to make it legal for Mexican drivers to pass across the border with loads.


8 posted on 05/11/2014 7:29:06 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: jjotto

Truck drivers aren’t covered by minimum wage. The feds keep tightening the screws when there isn’t justification. If they want to improve the industry the need to come down hard on shippers and receivers that beyond a reasonable time essentially steal drivers’ hours by forcing them to wait to unload or load .


9 posted on 05/11/2014 7:29:54 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: SeekAndFind
America as a whole may be slogging through 6.3% unemployment these days...

6.3% ?? Where, how do they get this number? A few days ago right here on Freep I was reading how there is 93 million unemployed. The entire population is 320 million, do the math.

10 posted on 05/11/2014 7:35:12 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Sporke

Meat packing paid more 30 years ago than it does now. Taken over by Mexicans and other Third Worlders. No doubt the same is intended for trucking. Lower the wages enough so no one wants the job, then turn it over to illegal/legal immigrants.


11 posted on 05/11/2014 7:37:04 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Sporke

Not to mention the 10 gabillion tickets you have to deal with from local cops. A friend of mine drives, says anytime he picks up or delivers he gets a ticket. Cops are treated like collection agencies today, especially in places like the liberal bastion of hell New York city where I unfortunately grew up and escaped from a few years ago. A friend of mine joined the NYPD and quit after 2 years because he said he did nothing else but give out tickets, and if he lost a ticket case in court they would dock him vacation days. Lot of illegals and welfare breeding cows to support, so let’s get those cops focusing on the real important issues: Collecting money!


12 posted on 05/11/2014 7:40:10 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: SeekAndFind
gross or net? that's half the problem with that trucking. the other half is the practical miles per year year you can legally log (like other commentator s elude to when they talk about hours of service.). Hours of service. inspections. are you crossing the border?

No....just do net income after fuel, maintenance, insurance, fees, capital, etc. over the road vs superload? I know guys who make 200k, and I've seen how owner-operators live, and it's not the same.

13 posted on 05/11/2014 7:40:43 PM PDT by NYFriend
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To: SeekAndFind

Spokeshave has one of those jobs....if you drive local you don’t need to keep a detailed log book


14 posted on 05/11/2014 7:41:16 PM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, as much as I can use a job, at my age and physical condition (late 50s, bad knees), I somehow don’t think this is one position I’d be interested in, much less qualify for.

I think there are a lot of us in the 6.1% (not to mention the 15% or so in the U-6 numbers) in my situation. Nice pay, more or less, but a bit too much to handle.


15 posted on 05/11/2014 7:46:27 PM PDT by ssaftler (I am both ashamed and afraid of my government, Federal AND State. Local not far behind...)
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To: jjotto

“Meat packing paid more 30 years ago than it does now. Taken over by Mexicans and other Third Worlders. No doubt the same is intended for trucking. Lower the wages enough so no one wants the job, then turn it over to illegal/legal immigrants.’

A few years ago I was in a packing house in Nebraska (business related) and the everything on the bulletin boards were tri-lingual...English, Spanish, Viet Namese. And I suspect that only the supervisors could read the English.


16 posted on 05/11/2014 7:48:50 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: SeekAndFind

If I was a young man again I would invest in pilot school. The shortage of pilots will be immense in the next 10 years.


17 posted on 05/11/2014 7:53:23 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: Hardastarboard

Truck drivers are no different overall than any other profession. Some are at the high end that transport something that is valued at 10M and some are hauling gravel.
If the guy dumps the gravel it’s cleared with a front loader. If the guy drops the 10M load of specialized equipment it might take another year to manufacture the replacement.
Professional vs. employed as.


18 posted on 05/11/2014 7:54:02 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: jjotto

Yes.. I hold a class A CDL with doubles/triples, passenger and tanker.. (dropped hazmat due to the insane fees to renew it)..

I do something else because I like to be home and the money is better.


19 posted on 05/11/2014 7:55:32 PM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: jjotto
Thank this dirtbag for that and the brain dead morons who kept reelecting him for over 50 years...

"Errrabbbah...my immigration bill will eraaabah not change the demographics of the country erraaabah...Now, it's time for a drink. Come on Mary-Jo, let's go...errabah"

"Whoops!"

"Errraabbbaaa, I needa drink...gotta get back to tha baaaah"

20 posted on 05/11/2014 7:57:18 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: cableguymn
and the money is better.

I read these stories and I wonder, are we supposed to feel bad for the trucking executives that they can't find people to do the work for the wages they offer?

Maybe they need to pay the executives less and the drivers more.

21 posted on 05/11/2014 8:03:23 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Hardastarboard

Truth be told, there is way too much snobbery towards trucking. All You have to do is stick in a set of music or whatever and make sure you are doing your job. It sounds like the ideal job for someone who wants to travel and end up seeing the country and then getting more then enough time off. It would also end up having a good way to fit in plenty of partying.


22 posted on 05/11/2014 8:09:15 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: DManA

Fully agree; the ones doing the actual work should be the ones getting the better pay. These pampered bureaucrats put frankly, are the ones making it impossible for anyone to make a living.


23 posted on 05/11/2014 8:10:22 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
6.3% ?? Where, how do they get this number?

You've got to be actively looking for work to be considered "unemployed".

So if you are too discouraged to look for work because you've found absolutely nothing, you are not unemployed. Your classification is "out of the labor force".

If you decided not to look for work at all, but instead have decided to sit home and watch TV, you are not unemployed. You are out of the labor force.

And if you are actively looking for work, but your definition of "active' does not match the government's definition of "active", you are not unemployed. You are out of the labor force.

And here's another interesting thing. If your work was very temporary and part-time during the month in question, you are counted as employed! You are living the American dream!

24 posted on 05/11/2014 8:11:57 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: SeekAndFind; MeshugeMikey; All

The main “Help Wanted” in the United Staes of America, is to help all politicians running for office in November to CONVINCINGLY defeat all Democrats who have voted for any and all of B. Hussein’s Laws and Regulations - - - - .

Until then, the Obama Depression will continue to spread like the malignant cancer that our sorry Doormat Republicans in the House have so cowardly and willingly permitted.


25 posted on 05/11/2014 8:12:52 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who pays for their fuel?


26 posted on 05/11/2014 8:13:01 PM PDT by kempster
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To: CorporateStepsister

Most of what the management class does can be automated too. I think they sense that and that’s why they are grabbing every dime than can.


27 posted on 05/11/2014 8:13:50 PM PDT by DManA
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To: SeekAndFind

Author Rich Smith: I know it must be a coincidence, but Richard Smith used to be President of Smith & Soloman Truck Driving School in North Brunswick, NJ


28 posted on 05/11/2014 8:16:07 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: meatloaf

If the feds want to improve the industry, they would get out of it altogether. Of course, the Fed NEVER improve anything except their access to your money and their ability to push people around.

Suggesting more regulations isn’t helpful.


29 posted on 05/11/2014 8:22:25 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: SeekAndFind

There are a ton more jobs amiable out there. The unemployment rate should be zero by all the “help wanted” signs I see. I think people are enjoying the monthly check right now. Not sure what the ones who lost their bennies are doing...they should be applying for some of these jobs advertised.


30 posted on 05/11/2014 8:24:03 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When I drove in 1984 the going pay was about $.10 a mile for team and $.20 I think for a single driver. No runs from dispatch? No Pay! I wonder what the pay is now?


31 posted on 05/11/2014 8:38:04 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: achilles2000

How do you propose to get the shippers and receivers to not take advantage of drivers? The clock doesn’t necessarily stop on the HOS while the driver waits. That means he isn’t getting miles which is how most drivers are paid. They are not paid by the hour.


32 posted on 05/11/2014 8:42:19 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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Not sure what the ones who lost their bennies are doing...

That is a hell of a good question. The underground economy? I think people are working but not choosing to contribute to the statist project.

33 posted on 05/11/2014 8:46:08 PM PDT by DManA
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I drove for a while. The driving was the easy part. The never ending paperwork and hunting for permits for every state, was the hard part.
I saw the writing on the wall once they started allowing Mexican truckers enter the US. It won’t be long before English speaking truckers are but a distant memory.
It’s a real shame because truckers are salt of the Earth type people.


34 posted on 05/11/2014 9:02:41 PM PDT by Sporke
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm not sure I agree with the term "high paying" for most of the hundreds of thousands of truck-driving job openings in this country.

The biggest problem is that long-haul truck driving is a job where the compensation is usually based on mileage, not time -- so a driver is paid a fixed rate for a route regardless of how long it takes to deliver the load. Between increasing congestion and increasingly onerous Federal hours of service rules, the actual compensation for long-haul truckers has declined over time even if the per-mile rates have gotten higher.

35 posted on 05/11/2014 9:07:26 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: meatloaf

Exactly. One of the problems drivers face is that the time they spend at a shipper/receiver is considered on-duty time, and since they are paid by the mile it is uncompensated work time for the driver.


36 posted on 05/11/2014 9:09:15 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: SeekAndFind

My wife and I spend 3 or 4 months a year working as oilfield gate guards down in south Texas.

The oil companies and contractors are begging for drivers. There are billboards along the Interstates advertising for them.

Drivers delivering water or diesel are making $80,000 - $100,000 a year and are home every night.

I’ve been told that one of the big problems is finding drivers who can pass and keep passing the drug tests.


37 posted on 05/11/2014 9:14:15 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: CorporateStepsister
All You have to do is stick in a set of music or whatever and make sure you are doing your job.

Nope, you're on the hook for making sure the load is put on there correctly; your hour-plus waits at places like the Oakland Port are on your own time because you're paid by the mile; breakdowns, accidents, and bad traffic are all likewise on your own time; paperwork before during and after; waiting at scales; that's just what comes to mind immediately.

38 posted on 05/11/2014 9:23:43 PM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

...and a waitress sandwich....


39 posted on 05/11/2014 9:54:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: jiggyboy
Not to mention especially up in the north east you are very limited as to the legal routes you can take. Weekend lay overs in Possum Flats with no trucker friendly facilities is always a riot.

Would any sane person sleep in the sleeper in NYC or Anycity New Jersey? The thrill of pulling onto a lot you just drove hard for 12 hours to pick up a promised to you load and route you home for the weekend passes you going out the gate. Then you discover the dispatchers who didn't talk to each other have left you sitting there from Friday till Monday when the companies production line starts back up and maybe you get a load out by noon headed 2000 miles from your home.

I drove about 8 months and quit. I took a job at just $1 over minimum wage working maintenance in a nursing home. I made much more money, was home every night, and had minimal stress.

40 posted on 05/11/2014 9:59:16 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: SeekAndFind

Operating Costs have definitely squeezed a number of truckers but the demand is certainly there. Some people also say it’s one of the more dangerous jobs out there. Line Hauling Petro probably gives it that reputation.


41 posted on 05/12/2014 12:06:07 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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Operating Costs have definitely squeezed a number of truckers but the demand is certainly there. Some people also say it’s one of the more dangerous jobs out there.

I think lumberjack is the most dangerous job and truck driver is second. Many people consider police officer to be dangerous, but it isn't in the top ten. But when they are seriously injured or killed on the job it is usually from a traffic accident.

42 posted on 05/12/2014 12:16:04 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind
How can a job be "High Paying" when the net income from said job decreases from year to year, and in many cases said job results in a continuous net loss.

If the job were really "High Paying", driving schools wouldn't have to lie to get people into their schools, companies wouldn't have to lie to get drivers to drive, and drivers wouldn't be quitting by the truckload every day.

43 posted on 05/12/2014 4:44:56 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: meatloaf

I understand how drivers are paid. When markets are allowed to function, problems are resolved. What about doctors’ waiting rooms. I don’t get paid for waiting. Should I demand regulations and more bureaucrats so I can have more regulation to make me “happy” (it won’t make any difference in waiting times)?


44 posted on 05/12/2014 6:18:53 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000

What’s your solution to drivers at times making less than minimum wage? The driver shortage hasn’t changed anything. The trucking companies obviously don’t care. How will the market correct the issue?


45 posted on 05/12/2014 6:24:51 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals always telegraph their next move: This one says, More Mexican truck drivers are needed (at a cheaper cost, of course)”.


46 posted on 05/12/2014 6:26:52 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I don’t get it either. How can the govt say that unemployment is down, but keep extending unemployment benefits. Total contradiction within the same sentence, yet nobody ever challenges them on it. The perfect catch 22 if I ever saw one.

I get how it is calculated, but challenging it:

take out all the younger than 18 and the over 65 crowd. Then take out all the folks who have given up. The other contradictory statement is that you have to show that you are trying to get a job to continue to receive benefits.


47 posted on 05/12/2014 7:09:18 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: meatloaf

I can tell from your post that you are sincere and concerned, but I can’t provide a primer on microeconomics here. When market forces are allowed to work, they always work. They don’t create utopia, but they produce a hugely better result everywhere at all times than bureaucrats. In my relatively free state just about anybody with a CDL can make $80k-$120k hauling drill pipe, etc. In fact, a family friend just started doing exactly that after years of hauling for a freight forwarder.

There are also lots of other kinds of unfilled jobs in the O & G industry that require little or no experience that pay very, very well. Markets are still working partially in the O & G industry, and the results are far better than in more heavily regulated industries.


48 posted on 05/12/2014 7:39:51 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Mr Rogers

Don’t you have some info on the big money to be made in trucking?


49 posted on 05/14/2014 7:34:56 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The real irony is that the average American believes that corporations/businesses pay these taxes/fines. They just don’t get that only people pay taxes.


50 posted on 05/14/2014 7:36:48 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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