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The Lost Creators Come Clean
Esquire ^ | May 7, 2014 | Emily Zemler

Posted on 05/11/2014 8:17:14 PM PDT by EveningStar

Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are seated around the infamous hatch from Lost. The duo, who became the voice of the ABC series during its six-season run, have met up in Lindelof's office on the WBR lot in Burbank to reflect on Lost's cultural legacy exactly ten years after shooting the show's pilot. This particular hatch is made of papier-mâché and smaller than you might imagine because it was used for exterior shots during a later season of the show, but it's still indescribably thrilling to find yourself hanging out at the hatch with these two guys. 

Lost premiered in September of 2004 and quickly spiraled into one of the most compelling, divisive shows on TV. Its unconventional, complexly wrought structure, enigmatic characters, and collection of perplexing mysteries became an immediate part of the cultural conversation, engaging fans in a truly obsessive way. It's arguable that no show since has generated such an extreme level of viewer involvement and debate that continues nearly four years after its finale aired.

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: fantasy; lost; sciencefiction; scifi

1 posted on 05/11/2014 8:17:14 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Borges; DollyCali; Perdogg

ping


2 posted on 05/11/2014 8:18:07 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Has it really been 10 years since that show premiered? Wow.

Lost is one of those shows that I kept meaning to see, but never got around to watching. I just don’t do much in the way of television.


3 posted on 05/11/2014 8:22:54 PM PDT by DemforBush (A repo man is always intense.)
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To: EveningStar
It was OK for a while. I really liked the character Hurley.

But it was cheat, and I gave up on it after a while because they never explained anything, like the smoke monster.

At the very beginning the creators swore that the passengers weren't all dead. Then in the very last episode we find out they were dead all along.

I'm glad I gave up on it after a couple of seasons.

4 posted on 05/11/2014 8:29:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: EveningStar

They’ve already admitted some time ago that they basically made the whole thing up as they went along. They wrote themselves into corners several times, and never had an overall vision of where the show was going to go (c.f. J. Michael Straczynski).


5 posted on 05/11/2014 8:32:59 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
the show went 2-3 yrs too long....if they had ended it at the end of season 4, we would have had answers....

we loved th show...dialogue was great....great sweaty actors and actresses....but at the end of the day, we feel dirty and cheated by it.....

we knew they were in some kind of purgatory from the very beginning....

I can't get involved in another series like this..that never ends....we do watch Justified but most things are cleared up within a couple of episodes....

6 posted on 05/11/2014 8:36:02 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

They WEREN’T dead at the time they said that; they were defining that the whole planeload of people did not die on day when when the plane crashed. They WERE dead by the time of the parallel timeline in Purgatory.


8 posted on 05/11/2014 8:39:24 PM PDT by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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To: EveningStar

The guy who played the doctor was on one of the late night programs. He said the cast and crew didn’t expect the series to last longer than 4 or 5 episodes.
Instead, it was a hit and the writers went into crisis mode to pump out scripts.

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I watched it through the first season and lost interest. It did seem to be made up.

For several episodes, we saw the waving grass. Eventually, it was revealed that a polar bear cub was causing that. In later episodes, we have more waving grass. Shock and surprise — another polar bear. yawnnnnnnnn.

Then, every episode seemed to center around alpha males challenging alpha males for leadership. yawnnnnnn

They never bothered to initially search the island. How did they even know they landed on an island? Maybe, there was a thriving city on the other side. They never got around to exploring until late in the season.

From what I heard and read, it got even more bizarre after I quit watching.


9 posted on 05/11/2014 8:44:55 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Lindelof cheats on stories. He sets things up then destroys the setup as if it was a smart twist.

Same thing he did with Promethius.


10 posted on 05/11/2014 8:51:11 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: DemforBush
...never got around to watching.

Don't bother. I watched almost all of the first season and got so frustrated I quit watching. For example, early in the show there was something HUGE shaking the trees near their camp. I never did find out what it was. In another episode, a black cloud of smoke comes racing up to within an inch of the girl's face, stops, stays for a few seconds, and then immediately heads back into the woods. Know what it was? Neither do I. As far as I could see, they ran out of ideas so they made things like this up to fill up the hour...repeatedly, but never felt the need to tell the audience what it was about.

11 posted on 05/11/2014 9:05:54 PM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: EveningStar

cultural legacy?

not much


12 posted on 05/11/2014 9:24:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: EveningStar

OK, Hugo weighs about 400 pounds.
And the survivors of Oceanic flight 815 are living on mangos and other tropical fruit, the occasional stringy wild boar and water, all while fighting this strenuous day-to-day battle for survival.
And the guy seems to *gain* weight as weeks go by.

Watch it on Netflix and the real fun is pointing out the absurdities: most recently, Hugo located and old VW van (’that had to have been rotting since Rocky II) and the boys get it running. Yeah, oh boy.


13 posted on 05/11/2014 9:39:07 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: EveningStar

One of the best shows in the entire history of television, bar none.

I’ve watched it from beginning to end more than ten times, and enjoyed it every time.

Immensely clever and extremely well-acted.


16 posted on 05/12/2014 12:07:06 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Little Pig

you are correct imo - they had a basic plot, and did write themselves into corners all along


17 posted on 05/12/2014 3:17:06 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Jack Hammer

my favorite show of all time. i felt cheated by the ending like most but the journey to get there was amazing. great acting and scripts. made you think. missing in most of today’s shows.


18 posted on 05/12/2014 3:35:38 AM PDT by CrouchingTiger620 (is it possible to 45th worse out of 44)
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To: EveningStar

Gilligan’s Island reworked as a drama.


19 posted on 05/12/2014 4:14:57 AM PDT by motor_racer (Who will bell the cat?)
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To: Little Pig

I’ve always wondered why people ignore, or even celebrate, ridiculous plot twists in daytime soaps while assuming that primetime productions are above such things.


20 posted on 05/12/2014 4:21:08 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: EveningStar

bkmk


21 posted on 05/12/2014 4:31:26 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: F15Eagle
"but never felt the need to tell the audience what it was about.~~~"

Part of the fun in a movie or book is to wonder, then try to figure out for yourself what things "mean". Back when I was in college we all sat around debating what "2001 Space Odyessy" meant.

I watched Lost on Netflix so it was easier to remember all the details apposed to watching it slowly over a six year span.

22 posted on 05/12/2014 5:00:33 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: EveningStar
For all you Lost fans....... There is a book that you will enjoy, for the sake of time this morning I will paste in a quote about the book:
“S,” the new mystery novel by J. J. Abrams and Doug Dorst, may be the best-looking book I’ve ever seen. From the outside, it looks like an old library book, called “Ship of Theseus” and published, in 1949, by V. M. Straka (a fictitious author). Open it up, though, and you see that the real story unfolds in Straka’s margins, where two readers, Eric and Jen, have left notes for each other. Between the pages, they’ve slipped postcards, photographs, newspaper clippings, letters—even a hand-drawn map written on a napkin from a coffee shop.

To solve the book’s central mystery—who is V. M. Straka, really, and what does he have to do with Eric’s sinister dissertation advisor?—you have to read not just “Ship of Theseus,” but all of Jen and Eric’s handwritten notes. The book is so perfectly realized that it’s easy to fall under its spell. The other morning, I was so engrossed in a letter from Jen that I missed my subway stop. (The letter, handwritten on Pollard State University Library stationery, marked a turning point in Eric and Jen’s flirty, romantic relationship.)


23 posted on 05/12/2014 5:14:56 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Bogey78O

The way the Alien was brought into the very last scene of Prometheus was as ridiculous as the last scene of Tim Burton’s remake of Planet of the Apes, where the Lincoln Memorial has a chimpanzee sitting in Lincoln’s place. So clever a two-year old could have thought of it.


24 posted on 05/12/2014 5:28:48 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: motor_racer
"Gilligan’s Island reworked as a drama."

I like how they cast Mary Ann this time, too:


25 posted on 05/12/2014 5:31:22 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: EveningStar

Lost was an amazing show.

All the episodes can be viewed on Netflix.


26 posted on 05/12/2014 5:51:15 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Thanks for the suggestion; it sounds like fun and I just ordered a copy.


27 posted on 05/12/2014 2:08:07 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

It is fun. I am about half way through the book and enjoying every minute of it. I have to do it on quiet weekend days when I can totally concentrate. You have three stories going on (the story written in the “book”, the story of the guy and girl who communicate by writing in the margins, and the “real story” which the author hid inside the “Book story” which you have to figure out)...... all intertwining in J.J. Abrams’ marvelous fantasy fashion.

First thing I did though was to stick a little sticky-note on each insert to note what page of the book it was originally inserted into. That way, when they fall out, as they tend to do, you will know where they belong in the timeline. Then I keep a little notebook to remind me of the stuff I figure out, for instance (hint) there is a cipher code somewhere in the footnotes of each chapter that provide a big clues along the way. The first one and how it is solved, is pointed out by the girl leaving notes in the margin.

Just go slow and enjoy it!


28 posted on 05/13/2014 5:13:24 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Thanks - it sounds like fun, and I’m sure I’ll enjoy it.

While I’m going through it, I’ll send you a mental blessing for suggesting it, but... don’t give away any more secrets!


29 posted on 05/13/2014 12:51:49 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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30 posted on 05/13/2014 12:52:50 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: EveningStar

I never watched an episode, but as I understand it it was nothing but a rip-off of Rod Serling’s “The New People” (which had an air time of 45 minutes, right after “Music Scene”).


31 posted on 05/13/2014 12:58:31 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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