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Music TV Talent Shows Fade
NY Times ^ | May 11, 2014 | Bill Cater

Posted on 05/12/2014 8:32:49 AM PDT by 1Old Pro

On television at least, it looks as if the beat doesn’t go on. The phenomenon of music-based television shows, which have dominated the ratings for more than a decade, seems by nearly every measure to be over or in steep decline.

“They flooded the market,” said Simon Cowell, perhaps the individual most responsible for turning amateur singers into superstars, with his roles on “American Idol,” “The X Factor” and “America’s Got Talent.” “There have just been a ton of shows, and something has simply gone awry.”

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TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: tv
Like anything, people tire and new fresh ideas take over.

As for Idol, last years panel was the death knell. The show became about them and not the singers, and the singers have not been of the star quality of the past.

Somehow they got off track and preferred diversity to talent, and it killed the shows.

1 posted on 05/12/2014 8:32:49 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Oh where will the Democrat Party turn to find gay candidates now?


2 posted on 05/12/2014 8:35:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 1Old Pro

Trends in TV come and go. I’m old enough to remember when there were lots of westerns on TV. When was the last time you saw a western on scheduled network prime time TV?

I never got into these reality competition shows. They had a good run, but, if people tire of them, ratings plunge, and the shows go off the air. That’s just how TV works.


3 posted on 05/12/2014 8:37:04 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: 1Old Pro

Its like everything else. If you oversaturate the market, people will eventually get bored with it.


4 posted on 05/12/2014 8:37:25 AM PDT by VOR78
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To: 1Old Pro

Finally.


5 posted on 05/12/2014 8:37:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1Old Pro

The current talent shows are turture. They show the life history of each performer over and over. Then the three or four judges say the same thing after every performance. I tape them to fast forward to view just the performances. It’s time for a new Ed Sullivan show.


6 posted on 05/12/2014 8:37:35 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

It’s all gay now.


7 posted on 05/12/2014 8:39:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1Old Pro
On television at least, it looks as if the beat doesn’t go on.

Nobody knows obsolescence like the NYT.

8 posted on 05/12/2014 8:40:10 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: 1Old Pro

Good. What took them so long?


9 posted on 05/12/2014 8:42:24 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 1Old Pro

People are getting sick of glorified karaoke.


10 posted on 05/12/2014 8:42:50 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Interesting. I am surprised Idol has sunk lower this year, because I know plenty of people who a hooked this year and tuned out last year. I actually like this year better than any in recent years.

For the Voice, the talent is miles better than Idol. I’d say the top 10 year are all as good or better than the top 2 in Idol.

The Voice would be wise to go back to once a year. It’s hard to keep up with a whole season, especially when one begins on the heels of the last.


11 posted on 05/12/2014 8:43:05 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: aimhigh
Then the three or four judges say the same thing after every performance.

No kiiding, at least Cowell would tell the awful singers they were awful. These new panalists tell eveyone their great, no losers, talk about PC.

12 posted on 05/12/2014 8:43:34 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

I liked it better back when it was called, “The Gong Show.”


13 posted on 05/12/2014 8:44:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ilgipper

I am sad that you know that ;)


14 posted on 05/12/2014 8:45:12 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Exactly.


15 posted on 05/12/2014 8:48:44 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: 1Old Pro

What I always found ridiculous about these shows is that they had absolutely no point to them whatsoever. It was like having a contest to find people who like to eat. Good singers are a dime a dozen, not even - they’re a half a penny a billion, they’re more common than table salt, so why the F would you hold a contest to find good singers? Are these people living on another planet where they think there is this massive shortage of singers? It’s utter ridiculous and useless. And then the “winners” get to sing this horrible song written by some no talent hack. The songs are horrible, but let’s not focus on the songwriting, let’s instead focus on flooding the market with more singers. Let’s keep pumping out drivers but ignore making cars.


16 posted on 05/12/2014 8:50:02 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: 1Old Pro
"Reality" shows are dreadful. There's really not much reality in them as the contestants are heavily coached and a lot of them are fully scripted out.

Case in point are those "home makeover" shows in which a family is sent on vacation while their homes are remodeled. Without fail, the family's reaction is the exact same. Tears of joy and people gushing "OMG, OMG, OMG" over and over again as they are led through their remodeled house. It's so apparent that the family was coached ahead of time that it's insulting to the intelligence to sit through it.

The only reality show I like to watch is probably the first one ever made. It's the show "COPS" and it is still in production today, after 25 years. At least that one appears to have some authenticity, although I do tire of the routine where the cops are asked why they decided to become cops. Just show the me the car chases, the domestic disturbances and the K-9 dogs, etc.

17 posted on 05/12/2014 8:51:11 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: dfwgator
I liked it better back when it was called, “The Gong Show.”

I'll second that. At least the Gong Show featured non-singing acts.


18 posted on 05/12/2014 8:52:04 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
What I always found ridiculous about these shows is that they had absolutely no point to them whatsoever.

I think the point is to get bored people to watch so they can sell ratings.

19 posted on 05/12/2014 8:52:18 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

A bigger problem is that none of the 18-40 y/o’s I know watch TV. The may do on demand or more likely Hulu or Roku programs off the Net when they have time. Us old farts are the only ones who watch TV anymore and we time shift most shows on our DVRs. But nobody wants our demographic so they lament the loss of those who don’t watch their precious commercials laden programs.


20 posted on 05/12/2014 8:52:34 AM PDT by redangus
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To: dfwgator

That was the greatest game show of all time.

“Time for Gene Gene the dancing machine!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACpNVD5GMUw


21 posted on 05/12/2014 8:52:55 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: 1Old Pro

May the so-called ‘reality’ shows disappear, too.

But, the channels are having a terrible time finding new shows that make it each year.

Last year, some 29 programs got cancelled, many after broadcasting only a few episodes, because few watched.

This year, some 38 programs bit the dust. A couple finished their run and one moved to another channel.

From some of the descriptions of programs already picked up for next year, several seem to be destined for failure.

Networks and channels are having a difficult time programming their channels.


22 posted on 05/12/2014 8:53:48 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
Networks and channels are having a difficult time programming their channels.

No kidding, just look at CNN.

23 posted on 05/12/2014 8:54:44 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
As for Idol, last years panel was the death knell.

Yeah, that talking poodle Nicki Mina was more than I could take.

24 posted on 05/12/2014 8:56:24 AM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: Alex Murphy

Apparently they did a lot of stuff on The Gong Show that didn’t get shown on TV. (And for good reason)


25 posted on 05/12/2014 8:57:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

> It’s all gay now.

The singing competitions have become a gay promo tool by overloading the contestant finals with a higher ratio of gay contestants the past few years. I think it was last year that X Factor was flooded with more than a 50% ratio (at least) of gay finalists, so many that the odds were that it had to be rigged. And they wonder why their ratings are falling. Seriously?!


26 posted on 05/12/2014 8:58:09 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001
And they wonder why their ratings are falling. Seriously?!

The NFL is about to learn the same lesson.

27 posted on 05/12/2014 8:58:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“When was the last time you saw a western on scheduled network prime time TV?

That would be 1993, “The Adventures Of Briscoe County Jr.”

It was the second best show on TV, next to the space Western “Firefly”.

The fools in charge cancelled them too soon, but Joss Whedon got his payback with the success of “Avengers”.

I planning on some new Serenity adventures on the screen when “Castle” is over and Nathan Fillon is free to do other things.


28 posted on 05/12/2014 9:00:31 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: dfwgator
Apparently they did a lot of stuff on The Gong Show that didn’t get shown on TV. (And for good reason)

Yeah, I'll bet. The censors were always bleeping Jaye P. Morgan's foul language, so I suspect it got a lot worse from there. The ultimate '70s party combo - cocaine and vodka - was very much present. It made the Match Game set look all sober and serious... almost.

29 posted on 05/12/2014 9:05:18 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: ilgipper

Idol sucks cause it is fixed.


30 posted on 05/12/2014 9:07:19 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: dfwgator

The NFL is about to learn the same lesson.

Don’t worry. The NFL, NBA, and MLB will all be good when they start punishing people of color for the racist things they say about whites, even if they are private conversations that are illegally recorded.

It’s easier to type something with a not-so-straight face than say it.


31 posted on 05/12/2014 9:08:09 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Simon sez “They flooded the market.” He means “we.”


32 posted on 05/12/2014 9:12:26 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: MikeSteelBe; Dilbert San Diego

Justified is as close as you’ll come to a western. However, it has cars and shot in eastern Kentucky. But looks and feels like a wester.

I think the Sutherlands have a western movie coming out this year.

I luvs me some westerns.


33 posted on 05/12/2014 9:14:44 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: dfwgator

I can only imagine how the straight players feel about getting in the same shower with a gay player that may be scoping your butt or penis then fantasize about it later..or wonder why he likes to tackle with his head in your crotcch or butt...the homos are just trying to kill competitive sports to sissify men. It’s a two-fer they get what they want; the gubmint gets what it wants - emasculated men that won’t fight back against them and will lay down and take it like sheep. The gays get more new gay convers from sports and the Boy Scouts...


34 posted on 05/12/2014 9:15:00 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 1Old Pro

My wife loves The Voice. I find it to be nauseatingly fake and the singers are generic talents, which explains why they haven’t managed to land a single one a real career.


35 posted on 05/12/2014 9:16:19 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: redangus

My son moved into an apartment this year. He bought a 50 inch TV a couple of years ago. I asked him yesterday why he didn’t at least hook up to an antenna and get free local TV. He says why. He watches Netflix, Hulu, and his sister’s HBO Go.


36 posted on 05/12/2014 9:18:06 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: jsanders2001

It’s like letting guys in the female locker room, and telling the ladies they are “bigots” for having a problem with it!


37 posted on 05/12/2014 9:19:56 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Alias Smith & Jones? Wild, Wild West? Brisco County, Jr.? Dr. Quinn? Does Dead Wood count?

Yeah, I know what you mean. I read a Hollywood bio, and it mentions some now unbelievable number of hours of the three networks broadcast week were filled with Westerns in the late 1950s/early 1960s.

38 posted on 05/12/2014 9:24:14 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Oh where will the Democrat Party turn to find gay candidates now?

The cooking "reality" shows.

39 posted on 05/12/2014 9:25:13 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: 1Old Pro

I stopped watching American Idol the year after David Cook won. He was such an amazing talent but AI squandered it by controlling him and the direction he wanted to go. Mainly, I stopped watching because of Ellen Degenerate. I refuse to watch her.


40 posted on 05/12/2014 9:30:49 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: jsanders2001

Bad enough they already have to shower with kickers, now this.


41 posted on 05/12/2014 9:32:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: VOR78

All these reality shows tend to bore people eventually.
Pawn Stars, Swamp People, American Idol, Amazing Race, Duck Dynasty, American Pickers, Dirty Jobs, etc. It is the same show over and over again. I have loved some of them at first, but how many times can you watch a guy catch a gator?

The reason the networks love these type of shows is that typically they do not have a group of “actors” they have to pay a $100K an episode or big name writers or directors. It is cheap to produce these shows. They are very profitable for the networks. Think of the merchandise the History Channel sells with “Pawn Stars” printed on it. It is big money. I bet Rick and his dad see very little of that.


42 posted on 05/12/2014 9:45:36 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Bring back westerns, spy shows and Drama. The public is fickle—they want new things—or at least new-old things like 24—


43 posted on 05/12/2014 10:52:06 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: SamAdams76

I do watch Hoarders when I come across it.


44 posted on 05/12/2014 10:56:26 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: woodbutcher1963

They cancel the scripted shows that interest me. The only thing I watch is a very small selection of “reality” programing and it is mostly because I enjoy the individuals, not the “reality” going on around them.


45 posted on 05/12/2014 11:24:26 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: dfwgator

Hah! I loved the Gong Show. As far as reality tv now.....I am proud to say that I have NEVER watched even one episode of any reality show.


46 posted on 05/12/2014 12:31:33 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
or at least new-old things like 24

Which is on tonight, the only tv show I watch regularly, other than FOX news.

47 posted on 05/12/2014 1:09:09 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: dfwgator

> Bad enough they already have to shower with kickers, now this.

Now THAT gave me a chuckle. Ex-football player here...lol


48 posted on 05/12/2014 1:42:05 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: VanDeKoik

> It’s like letting guys in the female locker room, and telling the ladies they are “bigots” for having a problem with it!

Hey you know that’s an idea if some pople went around showing the ludicrous’ness of PC by mking them wear the shoe on the other foot. Bet there would be a lot of bit lips...lol


49 posted on 05/12/2014 1:44:15 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: TomGuy

“But, the channels are having a terrible time finding new shows that make it each year.”

That’s were sex and depravity comes in. The next level.


50 posted on 05/12/2014 1:48:51 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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