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Former ‘Seinfeld’ writer wants judge to toss $1 million defamation suit filed by real-life Kramer
NY Daily News ^ | NEW YORK DAILY NEWS | Barbara Ross

Posted on 05/12/2014 10:47:50 AM PDT by Gamecock

There’s nothing wrong with shouting, “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”

That’s the argument from a lawyer for a former “Seinfeld” writer who is asking a judge to dismiss the real-life Kramer’s $1 million defamation lawsuit against the scribe.

Kenny Kramer, 70, sued writer Fred Stoller and Skyhorse Publishing last December for saying in a book that the guides on Kramer’s Manhattan tour buses drive through Greenwich Village pointing out gay people and yelling a famous line from the show: “Not that there's anything wrong with that.”

Stoller's lawyer, David Pierce, insisted in Manhattan Supreme Court Wednesday that the case should be tossed because the line is ironic.

Besides, he contended, nobody on the street can claim to be insulted because the windows remain closed on Kramer’s air conditioned buses and the guides can’t be heard on the street.

But Kramer’s lawyer, Fred Lichtmacher, shot back: “It’s not ironic. It’s insulting to a lot of people.”

Lichtmacher admitted that he’s seen only one episode of Seinfeld in his life.

I'm glad Kramer’s not here. He’d be upset — and [show co-creator] Larry David would be very very upset.”

Lichtmacher said the problem with the seven “vicious” pages that Stoller wrote in his memoir, “Maybe We’ll Have You Back,” about Kramer is that they are just not true. He said Kramer’s buses never go to Greenwich Village. In fact, he said, they never get south of 42nd St.

However, he argued, Kramer's business could be hurt if the book creates the impression in people’s minds that he’s a gay basher.

Joey DelValle/APThe line “Not that there’s anything wrong with that,” is from a famous episode of the legendary sitcom.

“What he’s accused of is a disgusting, hateful thing,” Lichtmacher said. “This thing (the bus company) has his name all over it. This is a situation that can destroy this man’s business because no body wants to get on his bus if his reputation is as a gay basher.”

Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Barbara Jaffe said she would rule on the motion to dismiss the case in coming weeks.

In a famous episode of the hit sitcom, characters Jerry and George, who are straight, are mistaken as gay.

When the characters deny that they are romantically involved, they quickly add, “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”


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1 posted on 05/12/2014 10:47:50 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

That’ll be the day.


2 posted on 05/12/2014 10:51:08 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Rebelbase

Don’t people have more mportant things to worry about?


3 posted on 05/12/2014 10:52:00 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary"S)
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To: Gamecock

... so the Judge has to chose between 2 liberals: The (permanently) Offended vs. the (truly) Upset?

Film at 11.


4 posted on 05/12/2014 10:53:26 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Gamecock

Serenity now!


5 posted on 05/12/2014 10:53:46 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: MotleyGirl70; Cagey; Mr. Brightside; earlJam; Rb ver. 2.0; lesser_satan; Taffini; jdm; countess; ...
Seinfeld "Ping"

Don't mess with Ping, his cousin is a shawk!

6 posted on 05/12/2014 10:54:17 AM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: Tallguy

“...The (permanently) Offended vs. the (truly) Upset?..”

Don’t forget the “Professionally-Offended”. They make a LIVING being offended... or off others being offended.


7 posted on 05/12/2014 10:59:55 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Gamecock

The Peterman Reality Bus Tour!!!


8 posted on 05/12/2014 11:08:18 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Gamecock; F15Eagle

Didn’t Kenny do all this, like, 20 years ago, when it first went down? Dude, what’s your hurry?

Say, did I tell you about the time I went to Lorenzo’s and ran into the Van Buren Boys?


9 posted on 05/12/2014 11:14:38 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Gamecock
the case should be tossed because the line is ironic.

Women: What's ironic?

Elaine: This, that we've come all this way, we have made all this progress, but you know we've lost the little things, the niceties.

Woman: No, I mean what does 'ironic' mean?

Elaine: Oh...

10 posted on 05/12/2014 11:18:49 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Gamecock

I wonder if they had to pay him years ago before they made $1 billion+ off of people including him?


11 posted on 05/12/2014 11:25:24 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Gamecock; F15Eagle
In fact, he said, they never get south of 42nd St.

Neither does Ping. If you live on south side of 42nd Street, he will not deliver your fish because street itself is boundary.

"If we deliver to you, then what? Wall Street, Mexico, 34th Street?"

12 posted on 05/12/2014 11:26:21 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Gamecock
Kenny Kramer, 70, sued writer Fred Stoller and Skyhorse Publishing last December for saying in a book that the guides on Kramer’s Manhattan tour buses drive through Greenwich Village pointing out gay people and yelling a famous line from the show: “Not that there's anything wrong with that.” Stoller's lawyer, David Pierce, insisted in Manhattan Supreme Court Wednesday that the case should be tossed because the line is ironic.

Besides, he contended, nobody on the street can claim to be insulted because the windows remain closed on Kramer’s air conditioned buses and the guides can’t be heard on the street. But Kramer’s lawyer, Fred Lichtmacher, shot back: “It’s not ironic. It’s insulting to a lot of people.”


13 posted on 05/12/2014 11:37:27 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Gamecock

This is why I hate lawyers.


14 posted on 05/12/2014 11:37:58 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Gamecock

Shouldn’t the real Kramer be rich from his Kramerica ventures by now?


15 posted on 05/12/2014 11:55:22 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: ozzymandus

16 posted on 05/12/2014 2:40:37 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Gamecock

I have to admit, I’ve never watched it either.


17 posted on 05/12/2014 2:45:11 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Rebelbase

I’m not so sure after the cook your own pizza scheme fell through.


18 posted on 05/12/2014 2:49:06 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Don’t people have more mportant things to worry about?

...Like queers being drafted to the NFL and making a spectacle of themselves?

19 posted on 05/12/2014 5:15:00 PM PDT by Rodamala
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