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13,500-Year-Old Tool-Making Site Uncovered in Idaho Forest
Western Digs ^ | May 8, 2014 | Blake De Pastino

Posted on 05/12/2014 9:14:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The prevalence of Western Stemmed Tradition artifacts in the Northwest, known locally as Windust, also suggests that its members may represent a separate wave of human migration to this part of North America, she said, with migrants having come from the north not by ice-free corridors near the middle of the continent, as some models maintain, but by way of the Pacific coast.

“This is supported by the archaeological record in the Clearwater River region, where the earliest material found is associated with Windust,” Longstaff said.

“Kelly Forks is another of the sites added to the record which potentially contains material left by the first people to call the Northwest home.”

The chemistry of the points also reveals clues about the travels and trade that the ancient hunter-gatherers engaged in.

Using a technique known as x-ray fluorescence, Longstaff and her colleagues were able to compare the Kelly Forks tools with geological deposits known to have been used for tool-making.

Results showed that more than a quarter of the artifacts sampled were a type of volcanic rock called vitrophyre from a quarry about 50 kilometers to the south.

But nearly as many were fashioned out of rock from a deposit across the Bitterroot Mountains in what’s now Montana, and some samples hailed from as far away as central Oregon.

(Excerpt) Read more at westerndigs.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; idaho

More than 13,000 years of use at Kelly Forks are revealed in the array of stone points found there, including a Goshen point from the Northern Plains (second from left) and the oldest from the Western Stemmed Tradition (third from left) (Photo courtesy Laura Longstaff)

More than 13,000 years of use at Kelly Forks are revealed in the array of stone points found there, including a Goshen point from the Northern Plains (second from left) and the oldest from the Western Stemmed Tradition (third from left) (Photo courtesy Laura Longstaff)

1 posted on 05/12/2014 9:14:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 05/12/2014 9:14:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Really? Exactly 13,500 years? Not a year younger or older? How was it dated? Show me the proof, I am from Missouri.


3 posted on 05/12/2014 9:18:18 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Fungi

There is a little trick you can use to find your answer.

Read the article:)


4 posted on 05/12/2014 9:29:58 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Fungi
This dating always drives me nuts....Only because I took my carving tools and engraved an old rock along a highway in Virginia in 1989. I used my initials and a 1789 date.

Saying someone finds it 100 years hence, it is absolutely impossible that they say it was done in 1989.

5 posted on 05/12/2014 9:30:56 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting.


6 posted on 05/12/2014 9:36:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Fungi

No, you’re from under a bridge.


7 posted on 05/12/2014 9:37:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks!


8 posted on 05/12/2014 9:41:37 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Great post! Thanks!

Now if they could just excavate sites along the coast under 200-300 feet of "global warming" water from the last Ice Age, maybe we could finally solve the riddle of the peopling of the Americas.

9 posted on 05/12/2014 9:55:54 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Sacajaweau

A reasonably sane Archeologist would also note that the 1789 rock was right beside the shoulder of a road from 1989, and conclude that it was rather dubious.


10 posted on 05/12/2014 9:57:10 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Sacajaweau

See, you shoulda written “1989, B.C.” on the rock. That would’ve blown their minds.


11 posted on 05/12/2014 10:01:23 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: DesertRhino

I used a map by Hennepin and knew exactly what I was doing.


12 posted on 05/12/2014 10:02:51 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SunkenCiv

What bridge? Please expostulate.


13 posted on 05/12/2014 10:10:02 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: SunkenCiv

Well, now, I ain’t sayin’ yes or no, but I will point out that the further off US 95 you get, the more nekkid fellers you meet trying to hunt mastodon with an atlatl. Fish and Game sez they’re Shriners but I gotta wonder...


14 posted on 05/12/2014 10:15:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Sacajaweau

“This dating always drives me nuts....Only because I took my carving tools and engraved an old rock along a highway in Virginia in 1989. I used my initials and a 1789 date.
Saying someone finds it 100 years hence, it is absolutely impossible that they say it was done in 1989.”

You’re just showing off your willful ignorance and stupidity, because there are a variety of means by which your inscription could be dated more closely to 1989 than 1789. The means for doing so widely range from studies of the algae growing on the rock and within the inscriptions to studies of differences in the radionucleotides in the different samples of the rock and associated microbial lifeforms.


15 posted on 05/12/2014 10:43:37 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Fungi; SunkenCiv

Uh fungi, I think you were being called a Troll! (Whud I Win ‘Civ?!)


16 posted on 05/12/2014 11:05:29 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: Bernard Marx
.....solve the riddle of the peopling of the Americas...

Riddle? What riddle?

Little known scientific fact:
The North American Continent was peopled by people from South America. Just because it was in prehistoric times does not mean there was not a government effort to end discrimination... and even then, the fossil record shows no government effort to control the borders.

Furthermore, Dr. Louis Farrakhan has informed me that those early undocumented migrants were originally from Africa.

17 posted on 05/12/2014 11:18:27 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Take congress in 2014. Have a Constitutional Convention of the States. Save the Republic.)
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To: SunkenCiv
There is a large glass flow about 70 miles below the Ore Cal border. It is something to see. You can see where the Central Asians Made tools. When I went to school the holly grail was 8,500 years. Now it is 13,500. If you people don't know, they take the age of the dirt at that level and use that as the general age. The people lived in the flood plane so after 19'500 years the rivers would have carved the banks back and forward.
18 posted on 05/12/2014 11:47:39 PM PDT by Domangart (LBGT = NAMBLA)
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To: Kenny Bunk
With a little more digging, we may find that the Chicago was the location of the first appearance of man.

Then they migrated to Africa and around the world.

That will supply an infinite number of dead Chicago democrats to vote and win every election.

19 posted on 05/13/2014 2:18:34 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: bobby.223; Fungi; SunkenCiv

I get it. He’s from under a troll bridge.


20 posted on 05/13/2014 2:38:38 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I have lived in Idaho most my life and I see a lot of “archaeology” findings like this...one thing they say is that a certain dirt grain is this many years old but they look at another and it’s even older...you have to consider the facts and they don’t even add up...


21 posted on 05/13/2014 5:07:14 AM PDT by TenaciousMom
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To: Fungi

Really? Exactly 13,500 years? Not a year younger or older? How was it dated? Show me the proof, I am from Missouri.

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Yea, you’d have had to read all the way to third paragraph to get your question answered, so I understand your not having done so.


22 posted on 05/13/2014 7:42:47 AM PDT by dmz
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To: SunkenCiv

There are some so-called “tools” that do not at all resemble what I would consider a tool, but these definitely appear to be man-made tools, and the progress of refinement is clear.


23 posted on 05/13/2014 7:46:37 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Bernard Marx
Now if they could just excavate sites along the coast under 200-300 feet of "global warming" water from the last Ice Age, maybe we could finally solve the riddle of the peopling of the Americas.

I was watching a program on the "Draining of the Great Lakes" and they were talking about the rivers that ran through them and created waterfalls, and other formations on the bottoms of the lakes. All this was when the lakes were significantly lower than they are today. Then even found evidence of human activity on the bottom (can't recall how deep the area was) of one of them. Something about rocks being lined up to influence the travel of game animals for better hunting.

24 posted on 05/13/2014 11:24:21 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Gene Eric; SunkenCiv

Yep, that is what I took from it. That post of ‘civ’s was/ is one of the best short smack downs ever!!!


25 posted on 05/13/2014 11:53:02 AM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: Cold Heart
Read the article:)

Heresy !!!

26 posted on 05/13/2014 12:59:29 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Once again showing widespread trade even at that distant time.


27 posted on 05/13/2014 4:44:37 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: IYAS9YAS
I saw that program -- very interesting. I think it was referring to this discovery under Lake Huron:

Submerged Evidence of Human Activity

Was that the same program that discussed the enormous salt deposits in the region and the huge mine underneath Detroit? It was saltwater ocean 400 million years ago.

Salt Mine Under Detroit

28 posted on 05/13/2014 7:41:47 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx
I saw that program -- very interesting. I think it was referring to this discovery under Lake Huron:

Yes, that was exactly it. Very interesting.

Regarding the salt deposits and mine under Detroit, I couldn't say, as I didn't finish watching the program.

29 posted on 05/14/2014 5:43:17 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: DesertRhino
It depends. Many of the older established highways in Virginia follow historic routes which followed Indian trails...

Unless the road is one which does not, it is possible the same route was used that far back.

30 posted on 05/14/2014 5:48:05 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I have boxes of stone tools and arrowheads that I found in south Texas and northern Mexico. That used to be my favorite thing to do, wander in the brush and look for arrowheads. It’s changed now, too dangerous with all the stuff going on down there. Too bad.


31 posted on 05/14/2014 6:08:13 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Thanks Ditter.


32 posted on 05/14/2014 4:35:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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