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Removing bad presidents from office should be easier
Washington Examiner ^ | MAY 13, 2014 | GENE HEALY

Posted on 05/13/2014 11:00:01 PM PDT by kingattax

“Don't stop thinking about tomorrow,” commands the relentlessly chirpy Fleetwood Mac tune that served as Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign theme.

But last week, in an exclusive article for Vanity Fair, “that woman,” Monica Lewinsky, forced Bill, Hill and the rest of us to take a look back.

Lewinsky, now 40, is someone who definitely didn’t “love the ‘90s.” “The Clinton administration, the special prosecutor’s minions, the political operatives on both sides of the aisle” and the emerging new media turned Lewinsky’s youthful indiscretion into a life-wrecking mistake, making her the permanent punchline to a dirty joke.

It seemed like great fun at the time, I’m embarrassed now to admit, digging through the Starr Report and cackling over the naughtiest footnotes. With the benefit of 15 years of mature hindsight, what should we make of the Clinton impeachment imbroglio?

Clinton figured out what he thinks long ago: he's the hero of this sordid little drama. “I am proud of what we did [on impeachment]” he proclaimed in April 2000: “I think we saved the Constitution of the United States."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


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1 posted on 05/13/2014 11:00:01 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

We just need term limits on Congress Critters and the Senate. And a limit on how long they can serve in “government service”.


2 posted on 05/13/2014 11:06:30 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: varmintman

Please provide the name of the author, the name of the original source and a working link to the original article at the original source. Thanks.


4 posted on 05/13/2014 11:19:52 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Veggie Todd

What you are in effect saying is that men cannot be trusted with power over other men.

And if men cannot be trusted with power over other men, then they cannot be trusted even for fixed periods of time.

I don’t think that there is any fixing this, because human nature cannot be fixed.


5 posted on 05/13/2014 11:22:51 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: kingattax
Impeachable Offenses: The Case for Removing Barack Obama from Office
6 posted on 05/13/2014 11:38:32 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: chris37
What you are in effect saying is that men cannot be trusted with power over other men. And if men cannot be trusted with power over other men, then they cannot be trusted even for fixed periods of time. I don’t think that there is any fixing this, because human nature cannot be fixed.

So why do we have a term limit on POTUS? What's good for POTUS is good for the congress critters.

7 posted on 05/13/2014 11:54:44 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: chris37

If men are appointed by people and actually DO the jobs they are appointed to do there is no problem....


8 posted on 05/14/2014 12:07:23 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Veggie Todd

> We just need term limits on Congress Critters and the Senate. And a limit on how long they can serve in “government service”.

+ 1 to infinity


9 posted on 05/14/2014 12:08:30 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: kingattax

If PC didn’t exist and the president was white there would be no problem. He would have been run out of office in 2010...


10 posted on 05/14/2014 12:12:11 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: kingattax

Laws like this only ever benefit Democrats - they are the ones who will use any means to gain power - remember all the crap Sarah Palin had to go through as governor because of the laws up there. Remember all the recall efforts by Democrats - some balanced out as the GOP played the get back game. The GOP would never use it the Democrats would never stop using it!


11 posted on 05/14/2014 12:43:43 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: jsanders2001

“If men are appointed by people and actually DO the jobs they are appointed to do there is no problem....”

Forty percent of the people look at the facts and see a capitalist plot to (fill-in-blank.) Another forty percent look at the same facts and see a Marxist plot to (fill-in-blank.) Twenty percent can barely be bothered to see anything and will vote the candidate who is best advertised. So, no. Forty percent wanted to get rid of Ronald Reagan because he was forcing us into war with the Soviet Union. He was against abortion. He was not sufficiently pro-green. (The list is a long one.) Another forty percent liked him. Twenty percent wavered in their views depending on what they’d seen on CNN that day.

Making it easier to remove the president would mean there will be a constant, ongoing effort to remove every president starting on January 20th of his first term.


12 posted on 05/14/2014 3:19:17 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: kingattax

We need a president who will diminish the power of the office and remove some of the layers that protect him from blame. (Cabinet positions)


13 posted on 05/14/2014 3:51:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: chris37
No, human nature cannot be fixed. Some mistakes can. Since the states appoint Presidential electors, republican freedom would be well-served if two thirds of the state legislatures were empowered to remove a president.

As it stands, second term presidents do not have to look over their shoulders and wonder if they have gone too far.

14 posted on 05/14/2014 4:38:11 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: kingattax

I’ve long thought that the country would have been better served had perhaps one president in five been impeached and removed from office.

Would keep Presidents on their toes, and would eliminate the common idiocy of the “three co-equal branches” of government.

Most important, it would tend to make Congress assume its actual supreme constitutional authority rather than passing it off, unconstitutionally, to the President and Courts.

This allows individual congresscritters to avoid taking stands that might piss off their constituents, and thus enhances their chance of continual re-election, but in the long run it has drastically damaged the actual authority and credibility of the institution.


15 posted on 05/14/2014 7:10:22 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: kingattax

Making presidents easier to remove would only affect REPUBLICAN presidents. The dems would go for it whenever they had a congressional majority, under any pretext. Repubs, not so much.


16 posted on 05/14/2014 7:55:51 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Jacquerie

I would definitely support such a change, especially seeing as how having a gutless “opposition” party essentially means that impeachment doesn’t even exist.

I just don’t see the point in trying to make centralized government work anymore.

It serves no purpose other than to consume the freedom of citizens, so I’m pretty much all for scrapping it at this point. All it does is draw the worst of the worst, and I can’t see any benefit to its existence at all.


17 posted on 05/14/2014 9:31:33 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: jsanders2001

Human nature will prevent that from ever happening.


18 posted on 05/14/2014 9:32:00 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Veggie Todd

I’m not opposed to term limits. Got to try something I suppose but, it would be more accurate for me to say that I am opposed to centralized government altogether.


19 posted on 05/14/2014 9:33:02 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
What you are in effect saying is that men cannot be trusted with power over other men.

This is the assumption inherent in the founders' philosophy when constructing the Constitution. It's reality. It's truth. And it's rejected by the leftist/humanist worldview.

20 posted on 05/14/2014 9:34:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: chris37
What you are in effect saying is that men cannot be trusted with power over other men.

IMO, history has proven this many times. Our founders gave us very good protections from this reality in the constitution and I believed recognized this reality themselves as expressed in the Federalist papers and other writings of the time. Unfortunately, the "better at living than you" crowd is slowly chipping away at and redefining the plain language of these protections.

21 posted on 05/14/2014 9:39:37 AM PDT by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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