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DC Schools: $29,349 Per Pupil, 83 Percent Not Proficient in Reading
Townhall ^ | May 14, 2014 | Terry Jeffrey

Posted on 05/14/2014 4:20:00 AM PDT by cruzader

The public schools in Washington, D.C., spent $29,349 per pupil in the 2010-2011 school year, according to the latest data from National Center for Education Statistics, but in 2013 fully 83 percent of the eighth graders in these schools were not "proficient" in reading and 81 percent were not "proficient" in math.

These are the government schools in our nation's capital city -- where for decades politicians of both parties have obstreperously pushed for more federal involvement in education and more federal spending on education.

Government has manifestly failed the families who must send their children to these schools, and the children who must attend them.

Under the auspices of the National Center for Education Statistics, the federal government periodically tests elementary and high school students in various subjects, including reading and math. These National Assessment of Educational Progress tests are scored on a scale of 500, and student achievement levels are rated as "basic," "proficient" and "advanced."

In 2013, students nationwide took NAEP reading and math tests. When the NCES listed the scores of public-school eighth graders in the 50 states and the District of Columbia, D.C. came in last in both subjects.

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TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: corruption; dc; democrats; education; nea; publicschools; teachers; teachersunion; teachersunions; teacherunion; union; unions; washingtondc

1 posted on 05/14/2014 4:20:01 AM PDT by cruzader
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To: cruzader

Milton Friedman predicted back in the early 70s that increased spending on public schools would have a negative result.


2 posted on 05/14/2014 4:22:34 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: cruzader

They will just demand more money


3 posted on 05/14/2014 4:28:17 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: cruzader

The purpose isn’t education. It is indoctrination and the funneling of money to the Democrat power base.


4 posted on 05/14/2014 4:29:58 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: cruzader

http://publicschoolsk12.com/high-schools/dc/


5 posted on 05/14/2014 4:31:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: All

this is what you get when you allow the teachers union to elect the mayor.


6 posted on 05/14/2014 4:33:27 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: cruzader

The only thing they need to know is the letter “D” so they can pull the proper lever at the polling booth.


7 posted on 05/14/2014 4:34:01 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: cruzader

For that amount of money you could hire a part time tutor for each student and expect better results.


8 posted on 05/14/2014 4:34:28 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: samtheman

To put this in a simple description...put twenty-five kids into an urban first-grade with an average teacher with no enthusiasm. Toss in lack of respect within the room, continued outbursts, and no authority figure within room or the school....then you come to the end of year one, with ten kids reading proficiently, five kids slightly less than average, and the remaining ten kids are all marginal in reading and other skills. From that day on...for eleven more years...the group will never match up or catch up with expectations.

To make up for this lose-lose game....you the administrator convince the school district to hire ‘helpers’...who really are there to occupy a pay-spot and really do no more than pull trouble-makers to the corner of the room so they can push your buttons and get you frustrated.

Then you, the administrator...convince the school district to buy laptops. More expenditure, no constructive results.

Then you, the administrator....convince the idiots to increase pay and benefits....to keep the better teachers there, but you can’t prove any of the kid’s numbers are any better....unless you invent a test that they can pass (you can guess the value of the test in real terms).

At some point, you the administrator....convince university gate-keepers to allow your marginal kids to be accepted (not the failed kids....but the ones who are really 9th-graders when they graduate). The colleges all play this game for a decade or two....but then start to admit that their system wasn’t made for this type of marginal intellectual to get a degree...especially a master’s degree or PhD).

Then finally...some of these marginal graduates end up as political figures and journalists...hyping up a problem that they know that exists...pretending that money or funding will fix it.

Did I miss anything?

Solution? Start back at the first grade...limit it to twelve kids...put retired Marines in the rooms for disciplinary issue punks...forget all other topics in the first and second grade except English and math. Drop the fed’s and state government out of each path...lay the entire blame on the local school board and the school management, and FIRE them if they can’t do the job...along with the teachers involved (revoke their certificates if they won’t regain control).


9 posted on 05/14/2014 4:39:13 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: cruzader

Greats scot! For that kinda money everyone family with more than one kid should have a ‘governess’ to educate them.


10 posted on 05/14/2014 4:44:51 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: pepsionice

The children and grandchildren of LBJ...


11 posted on 05/14/2014 4:46:06 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: pepsionice

Or:
Vouchers

Simpler and will do what you want and more


12 posted on 05/14/2014 4:46:07 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

We talk a lot about paying people not to work but paying people not to teach properly and not to learn carry an equal or greater cost to society.

Education, beyond the purity of expanding one’s knowledge, has always been a survival skill.

It’s a fact that zoo animals that are fed regularly and become conditioned to a lack of predators and/or prey become listless and bored (that’s why they never move when you see them).

Take away the motivation to survive and thrive and you get...listless and bored people.


13 posted on 05/14/2014 4:50:09 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: cruzader

DC has a 50% black population. This may explain a lot also.


14 posted on 05/14/2014 4:57:49 AM PDT by umgud
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To: cruzader

The best private schools. In my area are under $12,000 per year. Everyone of the students go on to four year college and beyond — most on scholarship.

Damn shame these union teachers and liberals are holding these kids back from being able to get an education worth a damn.


15 posted on 05/14/2014 5:00:56 AM PDT by boycott
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To: cruzader
for decades politicians of both parties have obstreperously pushed for more federal involvement in education and more federal spending on education.

In 2010, Barack Obama called for fixing the public education system by giving us the Elementary and Secondary Education Act and “Race to the Top,”

which he said would fix the education system already fixed by the 2001 GW Bush and Ted Kennedy legislation called “No Child Left Behind,”

which was supposed to fix a system supposedly already fixed by a 1994 piece of federal legislation called “Goals 2000,”

which was supposed to fix a system already fixed by “America 2000,”

which was a 1991 response during the Bush administration to a 1983 federal report on education called “A Nation at Risk,

which was published a full four years after Jimmy Carter first fixed the nation’s public school system by establishing a cabinet-level Department of Education in 1979.

16 posted on 05/14/2014 5:03:59 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: umgud

District Of Columbia High Schools
12,521 Black - (88%)
962 Hispanic - (7%)
519 White - (4%)
201 Other - (1%)
32 High Schools
14,203 Students
1,311 Full-time Teachers
10.8 Student-Teacher Ratio

http://publicschoolsk12.com/high-schools/dc/


17 posted on 05/14/2014 5:10:50 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: cruzader

Our schools don’t NEED more money!

Our schools NEED NON-UNION Teachers and Administrators, who have the EDUCATION of our children as their first priority.

“Education” is NOT “Indoctrination” to a Leftist idology!


18 posted on 05/14/2014 5:15:12 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: cruzader

"Do I really have to say it?"

19 posted on 05/14/2014 6:05:40 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: GeronL
They will just demand more money

Yup. Just like in Austin. The schools in east Austin are spending almost twice per pupil as those in the west side. East side schools are primarily Holder's people and most have daycare facilities at the middle and high schools.

West side have very few of Holder's people and no daycare facilities. The graduation rate of the west side is probably 25 - 40% higher than the east side.

Nope, race has nothing to do with it, it is lack of money. < /sarc>

20 posted on 05/14/2014 6:11:01 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I “lived” in WDC for over 30 years. It was a scandal-a-day. Nothing surprises me about that corrupt town...nothing. Rest assured that corruption will continue there until it is vaporized.


21 posted on 05/14/2014 6:14:05 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: cruzader
83 Percent Not Proficient in Reading

Tha cn rd th crap n txtmsgs...

22 posted on 05/14/2014 6:16:40 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

...on they Obamaphones.


23 posted on 05/14/2014 6:17:22 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: cruzader

“DC Schools: $29,349 Per Pupil, 83 Percent Not Proficient in Reading”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRGRvE_Wqg


24 posted on 05/14/2014 6:21:32 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: G Larry
Our schools NEED NON-UNION Teachers and Administrators, who have the EDUCATION of our children as their first priority.

“When school children start paying union dues, that 's when I'll start representing the interests of school children.” -
AFT leader Albert Shanker

25 posted on 05/14/2014 6:21:55 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: samtheman

Interesting. Do you know where or do you have a link?


26 posted on 05/14/2014 6:32:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: cruzader
Note that this is a system wide average for all grades. In the private school world, tuition is often significantly higher -- sometimes double or more -- at the high school vs. the elementary level. It is probably not a sound procedure to apply the same split to public school finances since so much of the bloat in the public sector is administrative overhead downtown. But for purposes of argument, if one did such a split, I would not be surprised if DC is spending more per student than most or all of the elite, nationally known private schools.

Just for comparison, the $29,349 figure for DCPS is three to four times the tuition at the typical Catholic elementary school in DC. It is also more than the tuition at any of the Catholic high schools in DC except for Georgetown Prep (boys), where tuition is in the low $30's. Stone Ridge (Bethesda, MD, girls) is $29,500 for high school. The typical Catholic high school in DC is in the $12-17,000 range. A couple of the other "name" Catholic schools are in the mid-20's. Prices are a bit higher for the "name" secular private schools

27 posted on 05/14/2014 6:44:09 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: hal ogen
It was a scandal-a-day.

Sounds like Austin and some other area schools. KLBJ has two stories on this morning. One is about an LEO in Bastrop HS tazing a 17 yr old who was involved in a fight. The kid fell and now has brain damage.

The other is about the Austin fire department using a test that DOJ has ruled as racist against minorities. The candidates had no clue to the meaning of some words. You think schooling had anything to do with that?

28 posted on 05/14/2014 7:14:09 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: cruzader

We all know that if more money were to be spent, that number $29,349 should be doubled, then the number could be moved from 83% to 93% very quickly. (Liberal Logic)


29 posted on 05/14/2014 7:20:14 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Altura Ct.
District Of Columbia High Schools 12,521 Black - (88%) 962 Hispanic - (7%) 519 White - (4%) 201 Other - (1%)

Wow. I did not know this.

FMCDH(BITS)

30 posted on 05/14/2014 7:29:49 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Arrowhead1952

bump

It’s the culture more than the race. If they were more influenced by Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Clarence Thomas than gangsta rap it would be a different story.


31 posted on 05/14/2014 9:34:44 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Interesting. So with just 20 in a room the funding would provide about $590,000.


32 posted on 05/14/2014 9:37:54 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

wow. That is insane


33 posted on 05/14/2014 9:40:36 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: samtheman

There may be some that genuinely believed there’d be an improvement in education,

but the string pullers have another goal - separating people from the money they earn.


34 posted on 05/14/2014 9:42:02 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Altura Ct.

Well, obviously, it’s that 4% that’s oppressing the others and keeping them from reading.


35 posted on 05/14/2014 9:43:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: nothingnew
I am pretty sure these are the numbers for traditional DC Public Schools, NOT including charters, which are separately governed, treated like a stepchild, and ignored by DCPS as much as possible despite being PUBLIC charters with public funding.

It is hard to find unified statistics. Taking enrollment in DCPS and public charters as the universe, 44% of DC public school students are currently in charters. This, however, still does not include enrollment in private/parochial schools or homeschooled students.

At the high school level, in regular DCPS, School Without Walls, which is academically selective and highly sought after, is generally regarded as excellent. Wilson, in upper Northwest, is not at Walls' level but has made great strides and has a majority of the melanin deprived students in DCPS. Together, per the DCPS website, Wilson and Walls have a combined 460 white students, which is 88% of the total given in the article. Most of the remainder are at Duke Ellington, which is a magnet school for the arts.

That said, if you include charters, private schools, and homeschoolers, DCPS probably has less than a 50% market share of all DC students. As you probably suspect, the melanin deprived cohort is mostly in private schools or charters.

36 posted on 05/14/2014 9:44:32 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: GeronL

I always figure education that way. I set aside a really nice cost for the teacher like 100,000, that includes 30% for benefits and retirement. I know it’s a little high, but easy to calculate and which union would argue that?

So anything above that would fund the front office, supplies, maintenance, and district administration.

So in this scenario the classroom tax budget would be 590,000 for 20 student per and 8 classrooms in an elementary school would have $3,020,000 for everything out of the classroom expenses.

Seems way too high.

If the cost per student was $40,000 times 25 students, there would $1 million in funding per classroom.


37 posted on 05/14/2014 9:55:30 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

Issues funding workers comp, law suits and settlements, and retiree income.


38 posted on 05/14/2014 9:56:22 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

and where is all that money going?


39 posted on 05/14/2014 9:57:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: cruzader

“Close enough for gubbamint work”


40 posted on 05/14/2014 10:09:57 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: sphinx
Thank you for your well thought out reply. I will ponder it for awhile.

FMCDH(BITS)

41 posted on 05/14/2014 10:29:38 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: GeronL

Don’t understand it.


42 posted on 05/14/2014 11:54:02 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: cruzader
Odds are their parents are as bad or worse.

Interest in intellectual activity isn't universal.

43 posted on 05/14/2014 1:08:00 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: GeronL
It’s the culture more than the race.

Yup, children having children and their names give their race away. Using three or four letters from mom and the assumed dad and making that into a name is insane.

Used to work with a black gal and the couple had a baby girl. Her name was Shirley, his name was Robert, so they named the kid Shirrob.

44 posted on 05/14/2014 4:06:25 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I call them “Arresting Names”


45 posted on 05/14/2014 4:06:50 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

LOL. Never heard that expression before. On FR, they are usually referred to as Amish names.


46 posted on 05/15/2014 6:04:14 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: cruzader

Reading is a white thing.


47 posted on 05/15/2014 6:07:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Arrowhead1952

A lot of times there is a crime story posted, people involved have some very “interesting” names. I started calling them “Arresting Names” which sort of has a double meaning.


48 posted on 05/15/2014 6:40:22 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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