Skip to comments.Russia to ban US from using Space Station over Ukraine sanctions
Posted on 05/14/2014 6:22:32 AM PDT by shove_it
In retaliation for imposing sanctions, Russia will also bar its rocket engines from launching US military satellites
Russia is to deny the US future use of the International Space Station beyond 2020 and will also bar its rocket engines from launching US military satellites as it hits back at American sanctions imposed over Ukraine crisis. Russias deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin announced a series of punitive measures on Tuesday against the US in response to sanctions imposed after Russia annexed Crimea...
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Thank you Obama... For turning the U.S. into a third world nation.
Serves us right for trusting Russia to begin with. Also serves us right for electing a guy who simultaneously neuter sour armed forces and cuts NASA.
Perhaps a few rounds of singing “Kumbaya” will smooth over these hurt feelings. Fortunately, our brilliant boy-prez and his courageous Sec. of State will be able to reason with Vladimer Putin.
Good luck to our astronauts on that space station.
They can certainly quit giving US astronauts rides on their rockets, but the International Space Station is like 75% US made, so I’m not sure where they have the ability to ban the US from using it once Elon Musk’s Dragon capsules are fully operational. FWIW, NASA has the ability to drop the ISS into the Pacific Ocean any time they want to.
Well, actually GW shut down the shuttle program. But the lyin’ king sure didn’t help with a follow on. Except of course for telling chaz bolden to crank up the muzzie outreach for all the contributions that i-slam made to our tech advances. Lucky the russkies are “letting” us buy engines from them huh?
“NASA has the ability to drop the ISS into the Pacific Ocean any time they want to.”
I doubt that very much...
I reminded of the movie 2010.
Keep an eye on Jupiter.
Not to mention it would really piss of the few allies we have left who have put billions of dollars into it themselves.
That said it does have limited mobility. It was repositioned for the launch of the Soyuz capsule yesterday. It could be nudged into a lower orbit that would speed decay but its pointless anyway because its an idiotic idea.
They went farther than that, they said they are joining into an agreement with China to build a new “International Space Station” that will exclude the West...
Meaningless drivel. Although we are dependent now on the Russians for access to the station, by 2020, we will have some type of domestic transport in place (SpaceX, Boeing and Sierra Nevada are all working on vehicles for crew transport to and from ISS). As for the RD-180, we already have about 70 of those stockpiled here in the USA, so there are enough engines for Atlas launches for the foreseeable future.
"One man with courage makes a majority."
~ Andrew Jackson
Just don’t cut off the cheap ammo!
Give them three days to get everyone off the station, and then kill it.
What is the purpose of the space station? What benefits have we realized?
International love and cooperation....and rainbows.
This is a good thing. It was gullible beyond belief to trust the Russians with anything. They are miserable louts and never abide by any agreements they sign.
And this is penny ante stuff. NATO could ban their ships from using NATO ports in the Baltic Sea.
Why would you doubt that? NASA put it there and NASA maintains its orientation and stability. NASA has full control of every major operation and system aboard it. I doubt they would, but the ability is there.
That may be the Post Of The Day.
No more manned space flights. It's all a waste of money.
To paraphrase Al Davis: Just probes, baby probes!
rktman -True statement about GW terminating the shuttle program. However, the statement sheds a false light on the facts. Just as Kennedy canceled the Mercury and Gemini programs Apollo was almost ready to go. When GW canceled the
Shuttle the belief was that there would be less than a year gap in our ability to launch humans into low earth orbit.
Obama has slow rolled the next launch vehicle. Making Muslims feel better about their accomplishments is more important.
“NASA maintains its orientation and stability. NASA has full control of every major operation and system aboard it.”
If you don’t think NASA’s systems have been hacked years ago by the Russians, your living in a dream world. Keep it in mind that Putin plays chess, Obama is a novice at checkers.
We should thank the Russians for making the point so clearly: Obama is weak, and he has weakened the US. Perhaps a few people will notice.
What is the difference between the US and Iranian space programs? Iran can send a man to the International Space Station. How much does the USA pay for the upkeep of the station?
Here’s the latest on the Orion Spacecraft ...
There’s an active unmanned launch schedule here on Florida’s Space Coast, both NASA and commercial rockets ...
I guess we’ll have to use that reset button to launch those satellites.
“As for the RD-180, we already have about 70 of those stockpiled here in the USA,”
Which about covers scheduled launches through 2018.
And after that? What about unscheduled launches? Tests?
Those 80 aren’t going to last long, and the Federal Contracting lead time is far longer than that.
The point was not to suggest any action, the point was to emphasize the full and complete control of the ISS held by the U.S. What is idiotic is the rash responses on FR these days by people who only superficially read a post without grasping the full message. So here is my comment again using lots more unnecessary words:
The U.S, has the ability to control nearly every system on the ISS from the ground, they can turn the lights on and off in nearly every compartment they control the environmental settings, heating, cooling, waste treatment everything you could imagine. They control the thrusters for reorienting the entire station for spacecraft access and convenience, and they can move it into higher and lower orbits to avoid known space debris. In the 1970s due to unexpected sunspot activity the first American space station Skylab's orbit started to decay faster than expected and the US had no operational spacecraft - manned or unmanned -- or other ability to boost Skylab in its orbit. As Skylab's orbit decayed there was a great fear that once it burned up larger sections could come down over populated areas and injure or kill people. Ultimately it came down over the Indian Ocean and Western Australia and no one was injured. However to avoid that problem in the future large NASA orbiting facilities including ISS have been launched in recent years with maneuvering thrusters and ample fuel to allow for a controlled reentry if such a thing were ever necessary; i.e dropping it in the Pacific Ocean. Because of all of these abilities at the fingertips of NASA flight controllers it would be foolhardy for the Russians to ever attempt to seize control of the ISS or attempt to ban Americans from using it.
Or... in response to the question of Russian blocking the US I could have emphasized the extent of the control the US has of the station by stating, "NASA has the ability to drop the ISS into the Pacific Ocean any time they want to. Which I did. There was a time on FR when you didn't need to write a couple hundred words to make a simple point.
Can’t Nasa just shut the station down from the ground
Talk about a non-event. Anything having to do with the space station is a taxpayer funded boondogle of no value except to the NASA personnel and contractors on the gravy train. The money would have been put to better use by leaving it in the hands of those who earned it.
Yeah, that was worth billions. There is no more war. No more terrorism. Unlimited free energy. No hate. Full employment.
The only benefit from our Space program is Tang, IMHO. I thoroughly enjoy the pictures from Hubble, but Star Trek gave us great pictures as well. Hubble simply shows the majesty of God's creation.
The distances of space make space travel impossible until we develop warp drive and can move at multiples of the speed of light, and overcome the reality of the dilation of time.
This is a HUGE waste of treasure.
Yes but so can Russia. Despite the fantasies to the contrary, the station can be controlled from Russia by necessity in case something happened to control ability here in the USA.
The crew that returned to earth yesterday consists of Richard Mastracchio, Koichi Wakata, and Mikhail Tyurin.
The crew currently onboard consists of Oleg Artemyev, Steve Swanson (Commander), and Alexander Skvortsov. Reid Wiseman, Alexander Gerst, and Maxim Suraev are due to arrive on the 28th of this month.
So who didn’t see this coming? Anyone? Buehler?
Honestly, who didn’t see this coming? We put our faith in Russia not to back stab us to free up dollars to hand out to voters and expect them NOT to blackmail us at some point??
One must admit that the building of the ISS was an engineering marvel. I’m not too sure what it is that we are doing with it. Has it been instrumental in any kind of scientific development, important discovery? It might be that it has had some significance in studying long term duration space flight! We built most of it, lots of the Russian contribution was usually late and it’s quality dubious. But now we are over a barrel. So do we just give up?
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