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Spanish documents suggest Irish arrived in America before Columbus
Irish Central ^ | May 13, 2014 04:12 AM | Kerry O’Shea

Posted on 05/14/2014 10:36:21 AM PDT by Olog-hai

While Christopher Columbus is generally credited with having discovered America in 1492, a 1521 Spanish report provides inklings of evidence that there were, in fact, Irish people settled in America prior to Columbus’ journey. […]

In 1520, Peter Martyr d’Anghiera, a historian and professor, was appointed by Carlos V to be chronicler for the new Council of the Indies. Though Martyr died in 1526, his report, founded on several weeks of interviews, was published posthumously in a book named De Orbe Novo (About the New World). […]

While interviewing Spanish colonists, Martyr took note of their vicious treatment of Chicora Indians. However, he also included in his report that the Spanish colonists had a very good relationship with another nearby colony, which Martyr reported to be named Duhare.

Physically, the people of Duhare appeared to be European according to the Spanish colonists in the area. The people of Duhare had red to brown hair, tan skin and gray eyes, and were noticeably taller than the Spanish. According to Spanish accounts, the people of Duhare were Caucasian, though their houses and pottery were similar to those of American Indians. The king of Duhare was said to be named Datha and was described by the Spanish as being a giant, even when compared to his peers. He had five children and a wife as tall as him. Datha had brightly colored paint or tattoos on his skin that seemed to distinguish him from the commoners. …

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1 posted on 05/14/2014 10:36:21 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I’m Irish and I can assure everyone that if this is true it’s only because they got lost trying to find the Guinness brewery.


2 posted on 05/14/2014 10:39:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Olog-hai

” a 1521 Spanish report provides inklings of evidence that there were, in fact, Irish people settled in America prior to Columbus’ journey.”

Now that’s something to drink to!


3 posted on 05/14/2014 10:39:27 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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But we DON'T WANT THE IRISH!


4 posted on 05/14/2014 10:40:51 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Olog-hai

More likely the Danes.


5 posted on 05/14/2014 10:46:50 AM PDT by webheart (We are all pretty much living in a fiction.)
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To: Olog-hai

Well, it’s documented that Leif Ericson established a Norse colony on the Canadian coast. It would not be out of the question that he would have told some Irish of the colony, maybe had some come with him, and perhaps some colonists stayed behind and moved south as the Medieval Warm Period ended.


6 posted on 05/14/2014 10:47:38 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Olog-hai; All
"... a 1521 Spanish report provides inklings of evidence that there were, in fact, Irish people settled in America prior to Columbus’ journey. […]"

Count the number of wars that the Spanish and Americans have been in since the days of Columbus to estimate how many times history has been rewritten for those countries.

7 posted on 05/14/2014 10:49:14 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Olog-hai
Don't tell that to Olson Johnson.

"But we don't want the Irish."

8 posted on 05/14/2014 10:49:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Constitution Day

How did that happen?


9 posted on 05/14/2014 10:49:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah, when Saint Patrick expelled the Snakes from Ireland, they ended up settling along the Potomac.


10 posted on 05/14/2014 10:52:30 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: dfwgator

I’m FAST. That’s how!


11 posted on 05/14/2014 10:54:17 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Olog-hai

Celts have always known this


12 posted on 05/14/2014 10:55:57 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Olog-hai

13 posted on 05/14/2014 10:57:04 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: PapaBear3625

The Vikings were ‘in’ Ireland, too. The Dublin-area was a Viking kingdom, IIRC. I’m sure that the information of lands further west was common knowledge in Ireland around the year 1,000 A.D.


14 posted on 05/14/2014 10:59:08 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Olog-hai

“Faith, Paddy, I’ve come to in some strange places before...”


15 posted on 05/14/2014 11:00:40 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Tallguy

“IIRC”

You do. :)


16 posted on 05/14/2014 11:10:01 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: Olog-hai

Why? Did they find a bunch of Indians asking for more firewater?


17 posted on 05/14/2014 11:10:26 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Olog-hai

I not sure Ireland had ships that could cross the Atlantic. Weren’t they Druids?


18 posted on 05/14/2014 11:21:43 AM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Bad news for the Irish jokes. This year they finished outside the heaviest drinking nations top ten.


19 posted on 05/14/2014 11:26:33 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Olog-hai

So did the Vikings! (Lief Erikson)


20 posted on 05/14/2014 11:35:25 AM PDT by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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