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Free Republic ^ | 5/15/2014 | killermosquito

Posted on 05/15/2014 5:53:35 AM PDT by killermosquito

Do any freepers have any experience with High Blood Pressure? Mine has been running high for a few years. Usually, about 139/90. I have had one significant problem that might have been related. 5 or 6 years ago a retinal occlusion caused me to lose about 70% of the vision in my right eye. It started with "lightning" flashes and the next day if you were standing 15 feet from me your face would be an oval with no features. After about 6 weeks of steroidal eye drops the vision returned to normal.

More recently in the past couple of years, I have had 4 or 5 episodes of semi-blurred vision but that doesn't quite describe it. It is like I look at something and I have trouble focusing on it. It clears up in about 10 minutes.


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I don't get much exercise. I eat what I want when I want and have been blessed with a pretty high metabolism. I'm mid 50, 6' 1" and weight is around 225.

Do you have high blood pressure? Do you take meds? What do you take? What has been your experience?

1 posted on 05/15/2014 5:53:36 AM PDT by killermosquito
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To: killermosquito

Get exercise and don’t drink as much.


2 posted on 05/15/2014 5:59:06 AM PDT by struggle
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To: killermosquito

Go to the doctor and get a full blood work up done. You might be diabetic.


3 posted on 05/15/2014 5:59:15 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Tagline deleted at the request of an offended FReeper.)
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To: killermosquito

I was recently diagnosed with BP similar to your levels - prior to that I was always in very normal levels. I take metropolol but mostly I’ve changed my diet. I do not use salt on food, limit my sodium intake, eat healthier and have been exercising. As a result I’ve gone off my meds and am losing weight. I’ve dropped 25 pounds and have about 30 more to go. Mine is a product of age and poor personal maintenance. I’ve not had any of the vision symptoms you’ve described. But as a result of the changes I’ve made I feel better, more energy and can feel my core... forgot I had abdominal muscles. ha!


4 posted on 05/15/2014 5:59:22 AM PDT by Frapster (Build the America you want in your home... and keep looking up.)
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To: killermosquito
I've taken meds for hypertension for probably 25 years and my blood pressure has been well controlled.

My physician has me on a beta blocker, diuretic and a statin for cholesterol.

No side effects, I'm very active and I maintain a FAA Class 2 medical certificate.

If you're prescribed medication take them as directed and stay on them. Chronic untreated hypertension is a recipe for heart failure, kidney failure and other undesirable stuff.

5 posted on 05/15/2014 5:59:44 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: killermosquito
Try a water-only fast for a few days, just as an experiment. You'd be surprised how many of your health problems start to dissipate just by emptying out your stomach, including high blood pressure.

If it works, you might try an intermittent-fasting regimen, where you forego eating for a few days a week.

6 posted on 05/15/2014 6:01:12 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: killermosquito

This is from an NIH site:
High blood pressure. Some research shows that garlic can reduce blood pressure in people with high blood pressure by as much as 7% or 8%. It also seems to lower blood pressure in people with normal blood pressure. Most studies have used a specific garlic powder product (Kwai, from Lichtwer Pharma).
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/300.html

I pickle garlic with vinegar, a little salt, cinnamon and sugar.

Aerobic interval training reduces blood pressure and improves myocardial function in hypertensive patients.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21450580/


7 posted on 05/15/2014 6:02:21 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: Frapster

I take metropolol, too. I am NOT overweight and don’t eat a lot of salt. My doctor said I have a sodium deficiency.

In my case, it appears to be genetic.


8 posted on 05/15/2014 6:12:05 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: killermosquito

I have the same problem. The lightning bolt looking thing that appears whether or not your eyes are open or closed seems to move around in my eyesight like something floating in my eyeball. The first time I experienced it, it was a bright white jagged lightning bolt that was very painful, but since then it is a rainbow color. If it appears in front of my pupil, I will be blind for an hour or so
, like reverse tunnel vision where you can only see with your peripheral vision.


9 posted on 05/15/2014 6:13:55 AM PDT by macglencoe (You see what the left hand is doing, but you should be watching the right hand.)
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To: killermosquito

There is something called an ocular migraine. You might want to check it out.


10 posted on 05/15/2014 6:18:24 AM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: killermosquito

Getting medical advice here probably isn’t the best plan.

See a doctor.


11 posted on 05/15/2014 6:24:08 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: killermosquito
High blood pressure is a serious medical problem. I suggest four approaches, in such combination as you chose, probably along with conventional drug therapy:

(1) Nutritional aspects and approaches should be considered. The Life Extension Foundation has a good explanation of high blood pressure. and they also sell a premium line of supplements.

(2) The high protein, low carbohydrate Atkins diet usually drops blood pressure to normal levels and peels off weight without the grief of calorie restriction.

(3) An easy to use FDA appoved home medical device called Zona Plus works remarkably well to lower blood pressure.

(4) Regular, moderate exercise helps to lower blood pressure.

12 posted on 05/15/2014 6:24:46 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: killermosquito

One word of advice that could save your life, ALWAYS CHECK YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE IN BOTH ARMS. MY BLOOD PRESSURE HAS BEEN AS HIGH AS 215 OVER 190 IN MY RIGHT ARM AND NORMAL IN MY LEFT ARM.


13 posted on 05/15/2014 6:25:22 AM PDT by macglencoe (You see what the left hand is doing, but you should be watching the right hand.)
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To: driftdiver

Is there a doctor in the house?


14 posted on 05/15/2014 6:25:33 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: billorites

I’ve been on them for five years. At first I tried to avoid meds by giving up alcohol, salt and lost weight. BP still was high. My doctor said “You don’t get it...it’s genetic.” He’s right.


15 posted on 05/15/2014 6:25:56 AM PDT by Dansong
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To: macglencoe
Sheesh, if I was seeing lightning bolts, floating thingies, blindness and rainbows in my head I'd be sitting on the eye doctor's doorstep the next morning....or ditto my primary care doctor!

Leni

16 posted on 05/15/2014 6:26:48 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Misterioso

There are several doctors who post here.

Taking your blood pressure is usually the best way of figuring out if its high.


17 posted on 05/15/2014 6:28:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: killermosquito

Move to Colorado and eat very small amounts of “brownies” 2 times a day.


18 posted on 05/15/2014 6:35:00 AM PDT by redhawk.44mag
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To: killermosquito

I’m the other side of the coin, wife(nurse) and I were just messing around one day and found my bp at 190/135, absolutely no symptoms or effects from it, just maybe 10-15 lbs overweight. I’ve never been a regular check-up kind of person, so who knows how long it had been like that. Doctor put me on Benicar almost 12 years ago now, haven’t seen it above 130/75.
I consider myself pretty lucky so far, we have a strong family history of hypertension.


19 posted on 05/15/2014 6:38:01 AM PDT by jughandle ( "We have the right to debate and disagree with any administration!" -HRC)
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To: killermosquito
IMO your eye problem is not BP related. Any ringing in your ears ?

Heck if my BP is not both triple digit’s I'm happy.

Keep in mind that 120/80 is “Textbook perfect BP”. Google it.

If I go to a doc it is because I hurt REAL BAD. Pain jacks BP.

I'm 100# over weight and had numbers that were high and had “Doctors” come in the room and out weigh me by another 75++ lbs and start giving me $&!t about my pressure.

I told them “well how about we check your’s right now”

They ALL changed the subject...

Back to what I came in to see them about.

20 posted on 05/15/2014 6:46:04 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: jughandle
were just messing around one day

That is why;)

21 posted on 05/15/2014 6:47:24 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: killermosquito
Hypertension is known as the silent killer. If you think an annual doctor visit and $4/month WalMart prescription is too expensive, rest assured the rest of us don't want to pay for treatment of hypertensive heart and kidney failure, stroke, and a host of other body organ damage that result from an easily and economically treated disease.

Drugs for hypertension are plentiful, and many are remarkably inexpensive ($4/month at WalMart). Trust your physician to determine which drug is best for you. Diet and weight control do not eliminate the genetic predisposition to hypertension.

Seeking advice in an anonymous discussion forum is not the most wise decision for a health issue that left untreated will debilitate and kill.

22 posted on 05/15/2014 6:47:43 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: killermosquito

Try not eating processed food of any kind...and adding beans to your diet...go to a Naturapath (ND)...unless you like taking drugs.


23 posted on 05/15/2014 6:49:52 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Dansong

My doctor told me it’s genetic too. Nothing to do but take lysinopril every day.


24 posted on 05/15/2014 6:51:56 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: killermosquito

First re the flashes in your eye. More than likely they were and are floaters. For most of us floaters are harmless and offer a form of entertainment. The link below from NIH is an excellent explanation of flashers.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/tutorials/flashesandfloaters/ot089103.pdf

Your high blood pressure is a different matter, and you should treat monitor it at home. If it is still high, you should treat it with appropriate medicine. We have had a few friends who didn’t treat their HBP, and they had devastating strokes which seriously impaired their life styles.

Before you go on your meds, buy a wrist BP measuring device. We use the OMRON made by Intellisense. You put it on your non dominant wrist, push the start button and put your wrist a little over your heart let it work. It only takes a minute and can retain your past pressure. My doctor has me keep a chart for a few weeks before my yearly visit. I take the chart in with my visit, he scans it and has his RN take a reading and says, “Your med is still, working. Stay on it.

A lot of people have white coat syndrome when just visiting a doctor’s office and having the nurse or doctor take your BP can raise their BP significantly. A friend, who was a personal pilot of a CEO had that syndrome. We had him walk a mile to the doctor’s office. The office RN, a friend of he and his family, met him in the little park surrounded by the medical building. She had him sit on a bench and took his BP. When, she did that, his reading was normal.

Then, if he went into the Dr.’s office and said high to the receptions and went to an exam to be tested by the same RN, his BP was high. When, the Doctor came into the room, his BP was in the stroke area. After he walked home, he used a wrist BP monitor, and his BP would be normal. His BP was normal for years when he monitored it at home.

You should monitor your BP as noted above. If it is still high after a week or two. You should see a doctor, and your HBP should be treated.

See your doctor and get a med for it. I have been on enalapril/Vasotec for about twenty years. I split a 10 mg tab and take a half tab in the morning and about dinner time. The drug is an ACE inhibitor. ACE inhibitors protect your kidneys and other organs. The ACE inhibitors for most of us work with basically zero side effects and impact on lab tests.

My generic enalapril 10 mg #30 costs less than $2 for a month’s supply at Walmart.

Good luck and take care of your BPH.


25 posted on 05/15/2014 6:57:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama cannot divert resources from his war on Americans!)
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To: fulltlt; All

I had a work event for wellness, and having a bad morning - they took my blood pressure & wanted to call an ambulance. I said no. But since then, I started to monitor mine. I won’t take meds, because they kill your liver. I have stopped drinking pop as much as possible & drink more water (with lemon) instead. I will not give up my morning coffee! I don’t add salt to food (as much as possible).
I am also using essential oils from Young Living to help keep me calm & to help with the blood pressure. I’ve lost 80 pounds over the past 3 years & I’m trying to get exercise. Good luck to you.


26 posted on 05/15/2014 7:01:52 AM PDT by PenguinM
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To: killermosquito

My blood pressure was normal until I hit my 70s (I’m now 81),and I had no symptoms. My M.D. put me on Lisonopril.

Two years ago I had a stroke,which also came without a symptom. My Lisinopril dosage was doubled and I was put on a blood thinner.

My ex had genetic HBP from age 40———he was very disciplined and did exactly what he was told,including regular exercise. He’s doing quite well at 83.

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At your age exercise could help considerably.

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27 posted on 05/15/2014 7:04:27 AM PDT by Mears
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My BP is always at a nice number when I have fasted. Why is that?


28 posted on 05/15/2014 7:14:37 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Bigg Red

When you are young, your internal organs have excess capacity and can handle anything you throw at them and still cleanse and maintain the rest of your body. As you age their capacity diminishes until they can’t handle everything you throw at them anymore. When there is food in your stomach, 50% of the capacity of your internal organs is going to simply digesting food. When you have an empty stomach, that freed-up 50% capacity can be directed toward cleansing and maintenance of your body.


29 posted on 05/15/2014 7:20:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: killermosquito

There are a few supplements that could help with high blood pressure. Fenugreek for one, it also moderates blood sugar levels and is helpful when taken after meals for this purpose. It’s helpful for sexual dysfunction.

The same can be said for L-Arginine, although the blood sugar link isn’t nearly as apparent. You’d want to take L-Lysine with it because L-Arginine can at times to lead to activation of any latent viral infection when taken solo.

Dietary fresh garlic is good, too.

But, caution should be used and a doctor consulted if you’re already on statins, blood thinners such as coumadin, etc.


30 posted on 05/15/2014 7:27:19 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Okay, thanks for the info.


31 posted on 05/15/2014 7:28:57 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: fulltlt
Re: lysinopril

If you develop a persistent dry hacking cough, it's the lysinopril causing it. Will take a couple of weeks for it to go away once you change BP medicine.

32 posted on 05/15/2014 7:36:22 AM PDT by Texan
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To: killermosquito

The exercise is important and in many cases genetics and age are a factor. My BP has always been slightly high, from the time I enlisted in the Marines to my retirement from the Air Force. It was never a areal problem nor was it flagged until about 10 years after I retired and they changed the specs on what was considered pre-hypertensive. My doctor at the time prescribed some meds to get it below 130 on the average when exercise didn’t seem to help. The meds had some irritating side effects so my military doctor reviewed my med records going back to the Marines and figured out that I had a higher than normal heart rate which is probably genetic. He put me on one med, Atenelol, to slow my heart rate and after that my BP is always in the normal range. Each case seems to be a little different from one person to another.


33 posted on 05/15/2014 7:36:28 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: killermosquito
You need to see a doctor and get that blood pressure under control. I have been on BP medications for years and had a lot of trouble finding the right combination of meds that works for me. Be prepared to try several different BP medications over a long period of time. Work with your doctor and be frank about any side effects you might be experiencing. Some BP meds for example cause erectile problems. It took me several years and some battles with my health insurance company to get the right combination of meds, for me an ACH inhibitor and a calcium channel blocker. My BP has been under excellent control for years.

Do make efforts to live a more healthy lifestyle. I had one old time doctor tell me that the greatest threats to your health were smoking, salt, sugar and sitting. Don't smoke, cut down on salt..you needn't go salt free unless your doctors recommends it... avoid sugary and processed foods and get some exercise...walking is as good as any.

34 posted on 05/15/2014 7:39:08 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: struggle

I don’t drink at all.


35 posted on 05/15/2014 7:39:17 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: Tenacious 1

I had blood work recently. Normal sugar and cholesterol levels.


36 posted on 05/15/2014 7:40:15 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thank you for that link. I have a huge amount of floaters that happened after a coughing/choking session had a several years ago. I was suffering with severe bronchitis and could not stop coughing. I went to my eye doc immediately and he diagnosed me as having floaters. They do affect my vision in my right eye and I don’t think they will ever go away. I have never had flashers and my retina is OK.


37 posted on 05/15/2014 7:45:31 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: killermosquito

Recently, the health profession released ‘new’ numbers for bp. Those numbers allow higher numbers than previously.

FYI

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My bp is borderline (old numbers), so Dr put me on 10mg Lisinopril (generic).

Initially, he cautioned that if I developed a persistent cough to seek an appointment.

I haven’t had any problems and have been taking the pill daily for several years now. Typically, my bp is in the ‘low’ range. It does occasionally spike, but those spikes seem to be temporary. I have a couple of BP Meters so I check it occasionally-to-frequently.


38 posted on 05/15/2014 7:48:21 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: killermosquito

I have ocular migraines. Maybe once or twice a year, very random. Here is what happens. I will get like a flash of light then a very small jagged edge shimmering light appears, it grows and takes over much of my field of vision. It affects both eyes and lasts about twenty minutes until it fades away. There isn’t any pain, maybe a slight headache after. It is not uncommon and is usually a benign condition. They are not sure what triggers them, food, stress, light, they aren’t sure. I think mine is triggered by certain red wines.


39 posted on 05/15/2014 7:48:26 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: killermosquito

Listen to more music, drink more beer, and quit worrying about politics. I am reasonably sure that 2 out of the 3 will help your blood pressure, and the one thing that might not help will at least cause you to feel happier about your situation.


40 posted on 05/15/2014 7:52:22 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Oh Crap!)
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To: Jay Redhawk
Listen to more music, drink more beer, and quit worrying about politics.

And don't read FR just before going to the Dr appointment. Some of the lib/leftist/dem news articles can cause BP to spike significantly.

:)
41 posted on 05/15/2014 8:00:28 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Tenacious 1; struggle; The Great RJ; RJS1950; Texan; E. Pluribus Unum; Bigg Red; ...

I come from a family of long livers. Great grandma was 106. Maternal grandfather painted the exterior of his house when he was 93 and he applied 2 coats(central Indiana in August). Both grandmas lived healthy lives till they were in their mid 90s.

I was born premature and I did read recently there is a link (especially for those with reduced lung capacity which describes me).

I don’t smoke, never have. I don’t drink, never have.

I hardly use salt but I am addicted to sugar. I don’t drink as much liquids as I should. I’ve had mild chest pains most of my life and will often take aspirin.

My dad died of congestive heart disease at 74. He was addicted to salt and told me not to be when he was on his deathbed. Mom is 81 and doing great.

Thank you for your replies which I realize is no replacement for medical advice.


42 posted on 05/15/2014 8:09:05 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: Ditter
"...I have a huge amount of floaters..."

I couldn't figure how this related until I read further. Floaters have a different meaning to some I guess. ;)

43 posted on 05/15/2014 8:11:22 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: macglencoe

“... 215 OVER 190 ...”

Dang, and I thought mine was high. That must’ve felt awful!


44 posted on 05/15/2014 8:11:51 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I have tried the wrist monitors and have found them to give wildly varying results. I returned it and got my money back.
I also tried a upper arm cuff one but was not happy with it either. Can anyone recommend a good / relaiable / accurate one for a relatively reasonable price?


45 posted on 05/15/2014 8:15:21 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: killermosquito

There is a added ingredient Sulfate wines it is more than likely the cause. http://www.wines.com/sulfite-free-wine/

But if your BP is High for your age, it needs to be under control. A simple water pill can do that, as a first drug effort, depending on your health, the type could be HCTZ or Diazide, which come generic. And the generic work for most people. Diazide is a little more protection for your kidney’s. Untreated High BP leads to all kinds of other health conditions including blindness, heart attack. DO NOT IGNORE IT. If you do not trust your Internist, seek a Cardiologist. Do a walking Stress Test at the very least.

Over weight lose it. Cut salt intake. Just cut your breads down. Do it slow. Avoid high sugar fruits and refined sugars. Type 2 Diabetic diet will actually lower high cholesterol if you adhere to it and drop the high sugar fruits.

My hubby has high BP, so I watch the salt like a hawk. He takes 2 cholesterol drugs which are quite side effect prone. He does not compute it to the body pain he complains of or the hand tremors. Just thinks it’s because he is nearly 74. Both WelChol and Provachal are dangerous, especially at the levels he has to take them to lower cholesterol that diet would improve if adhered to. Use your sweet/bread tooth for a treat item, not a daily item.

http://www.migrainetrust.org/factsheet-migraine-triggers-10505

I’m not a doctor, but I do good research on drugs. As I REACT to so many.


46 posted on 05/15/2014 8:26:15 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep yGooour promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: Andy'smom

Also Vit D level needs a check, many are deficient in it due to our life styles or the need to avoid a lot of sun. They tell you 15 mins a day is all you need in the high sun periods of spring and summer, more for fall and winter when we have less Sunlight. With my very fair skin that is a sunburn. Skin cancer risk I don’t take.

Metropolol is what hubby takes + HCTZ for ankle swelling His is genetic too, just as the cholesterol is. Salt intake hidden in his snack crap he won’t give up. Since I have to watch salt intake for Meniere’s I can empathize to a degree. To much sets my ears to high pitch ringing, or will trigger an attack or Vertigo at the very least. Neither are pleasant. Altitude gets me too. My BP is Low, only time it is up is PAIN or you riled my Celtic temper to the boiling point.


47 posted on 05/15/2014 8:42:16 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep yGooour promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: killermosquito
Cut your Caffeine and Suger intake.
Daily hour long brisk walks
Beetroot juice (organic, whole)
Plant Sterols
See a Doctor.!
Just in case you are wondering, this was from my Doctor.
48 posted on 05/15/2014 8:53:30 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: killermosquito
Forgot to mention:
If you have access to a 24hour arm monitor ,do make use of it.
It is amazing how the pressure changes through the course of the day.
You may also have `white coat` syndrome, leave your monitor on for 10 mins ,then start it again when you have relaxed.
49 posted on 05/15/2014 9:04:20 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: fulltlt

I think most people’s floaters are just a tiny speck that floats across your vision. Mine, in my right eye especially, are like a chain drifting across. The best way I can explain what is looks like to people who can’t understand is this way. You know when you have something on the dashboard of your car and from a certain direction the sun will make a refection on your windshield. You can see through it but it does affect your ability to see clearly.


50 posted on 05/15/2014 9:30:02 AM PDT by Ditter
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