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Teen Treated At Local Hospital Dies After Being Tased By Police
WJZ Baltimore ^ | 5-15-14 | Christie Lleto

Posted on 05/16/2014 12:29:55 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

BALTIMORE (WJZ) — A young hospital patient is tased by Baltimore City Police, then falls into a coma and dies. The department launches an investigation into the officers’ actions at Good Samaritan Hospital.

The death of a 19-year-old hospital patient this week is the focal point of a Baltimore City Police investigation after they say one of their officers tased the teen who was in a violent altercation with Good Samaritan Hospital security earlier this month.

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1 posted on 05/16/2014 12:29:55 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: RKBA Democrat

WTF is going on with the police and using tasers? In the past year or two, I’ve seen article after article about them tasing everyone — the elderly, 10 year olds, teens, people who aren’t being obviously violent. It seems like they know they get a free pass on “tasing” people because its not like shooting them with a gun. Its a bad sign.


2 posted on 05/16/2014 12:32:15 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: null and void; bamahead

Place your bets: will Nursing homes or hospices be next?


3 posted on 05/16/2014 12:34:56 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Two parties, one agenda. It's the uniparty.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Wondering if these out-of-control cops are mostly younger men who grew up zapping and shooting people on video games.


4 posted on 05/16/2014 12:39:48 PM PDT by all the best (sat`~!)
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To: All

The teen was in a ‘violent altercation’. I would tase him also.

It is (probably) too bad he died but it happens. Based on this report - police did nothing wrong here.


5 posted on 05/16/2014 12:40:20 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Did the kid have a dog?


6 posted on 05/16/2014 12:40:24 PM PDT by shadeaud (Be strong when you are weak.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Tough to say. On one hand, I realize that a large share of tasing deaths are due to someone's reaction is off the charts-- frail condition, drug induced illness, etc.

On the other, I've got to wonder about why LEOs are so quick to reach for the taser compared to how they would've dealt with it 20 years or so ago.

Is it because the ranks are being filled with the physically weak, proper gender ratios and other political correct clap-trap? A general deterioration in the training quality? All of the foregoing?

7 posted on 05/16/2014 12:41:10 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: RKBA Democrat; Alaska Wolf; TexasFreeper2009; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; ...
Place your bets: will Nursing homes or hospices be next?

Nursing homes.

They're full of useless eaters.

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8 posted on 05/16/2014 12:42:47 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: Vigilanteman; null and void

My cousin was not on drugs, ‘frail’ or anything else except scared.

The cops stopped him because his truck looked like a truck that was supposed to have been involved in a burglary and he panicked.

He ran into a cornfield and they followed him, tasing him repeatedly until he stopped.

Unfortunately, he stopped by dropping dead.

An ‘internal investigation’ was conducted and the horde of cops all had the same story.

“He came right at them”.

Witness testimony to the contrary was disregarded.

My cousin was nothing if not a non-violent wuss.

But he’s still dead.

Left behind a young daughter that my aunt had to raise.


9 posted on 05/16/2014 12:48:09 PM PDT by Salamander (Black Ace Dog Handler)
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To: Salamander

I’m sorry to hear that.


10 posted on 05/16/2014 12:52:42 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: QuisCustodiet1776

“The teen was in a ‘violent altercation’. I would tase him also.”

Not. I used to work in EMS many years ago. Violent people are fairly common. One big guy with a knee to the chest, two or three others on the arms and legs. Then you hogtie them to a guerney with soft restraints. And wheel them into a nice, quiet room to scream for awhile. They eventually calm down.


11 posted on 05/16/2014 12:52:46 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Two parties, one agenda. It's the uniparty.)
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To: Vigilanteman
"On the other, I've got to wonder about why LEOs are so quick to reach for the taser compared to how they would've dealt with it 20 years or so ago.

Because doing a beat down with a nightstick looks really bad on video. Do away with video cameras and wood shampoos would make a comeback.

12 posted on 05/16/2014 12:53:06 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: QuisCustodiet1776

“Based on this report - police did nothing wrong here.”

...Except kill the kid.

Even though their own lives were not in danger — which used to be the standard in this country for cops to use deadly force.

I’m just glad those five heroes made it to the end of their shift.


13 posted on 05/16/2014 12:56:07 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Salamander
Sorry about your cousin. All this over a burglary? In many jurisdictions LEOs are too busy to even investigate burglaries unless the loss claim is significant.

They had the truck license and registration. I suspect that too many trips to the donught shop rendered them unable to do a normal pursuit on foot.

There are various reasons why they reach for the taser. I suspect laziness and PC compete for the #1 spot.

14 posted on 05/16/2014 12:57:18 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Salamander
He ran into a cornfield and they followed him, tasing him repeatedly until he stopped... Witness testimony to the contrary was disregarded.

How many neutral witnesses were out there in that corn field. And what was he guilty of that he panicked?

15 posted on 05/16/2014 12:57:18 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: QuisCustodiet1776
“When they arrived, there was at least five security guards who were engaged in a physical altercation with this 19-year-old attempting to restrain him,”

If 5 people couldn't effectively restrain this man (19 is a fully grown man & it doesn't state his height/weight) then odds are pretty good that he could seriously injure someone. Assuming the facts here are accurate & some contradictory details haven't be left out, tasing was a valid course of action. I don't think people realize how dangerous this situation may have been. I'd tase someone before I'd let him smash all the bones in my face.

I'll be the first in line to bash (figuratively) the cops, but it doesn't appear warranted here.

16 posted on 05/16/2014 12:59:03 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: null and void

I was not really that close with him but it devastated his mom and made his dad a lunatic.


17 posted on 05/16/2014 12:59:19 PM PDT by Salamander (Black Ace Dog Handler)
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To: PAR35

Nice of you to assume that someone who has multiple people pointing guns at him and screaming mutually contradictory orders must be guilty of something to panic.


18 posted on 05/16/2014 1:01:29 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: PAR35

The people who live in the house on that curve and the cousin’s wife sitting in the truck watched it all happen.

He was “guilty” only of cowardice.

Did I mention he was sort of like “Lenny” in Of Mice And Men?

Big, slow and not terribly bright.

He was crying and freaking out that he was ‘going to jail’.

Pure, blind panic.

No guilt whatsoever.

You don’t know the local city cops.

They are as bad as bad gets.


19 posted on 05/16/2014 1:03:17 PM PDT by Salamander (Black Ace Dog Handler)
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To: RKBA Democrat

obviously we have to take these tazers from these @$$holes.


20 posted on 05/16/2014 1:03:46 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Vigilanteman

From what other people said, he was pulled out of the truck immediately after the stop and it went straight to hell from there.

I don’t even know if they took time to run plates.

These are the same people who, when responding to shots fired in the west end of town one night, pulled over all of us on motorcycles instead of going into the urban jungle where the shooter was.

We all got shook down and roughed up.

A grinning psycho threw me face down on his cruiser hood, thoroughly felt me up and then dry humped me while laughing in my husband’s face.

After all that, he just let me go.

A county sheriff gave me the perv’s badge number and name and told me to press charges.

I did.

And guess what happened to the cop.

Exactly nothing.


21 posted on 05/16/2014 1:09:34 PM PDT by Salamander (Black Ace Dog Handler)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I am pretty sure I read a month or so back where the doughnut processors had tazed someone in a nursing home.

No dogs were killing in the filming of the incident, however and all the Rambo Wannabe’s went home safe.


22 posted on 05/16/2014 1:12:12 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Salamander

John Ross wrote a great Novel. You should read thru it...Just saying.


23 posted on 05/16/2014 1:14:03 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Salamander
"He came right them" That is the B part of "I was in fear of my life". They may be 20 miles apart, but "he came right at me".... The jack boot lickers eat both of them up. Like the hostage who was running to the deputy for protection, "He ran toward me"....[The propaganda line is that the police are here to protect you. The guy was looking for protection. One would not expect someone to run away from instead of to his protector. And the, "I was in fear for my life" kicked in. The deputy put more holes in the guy than is in a pound of Swiss cheese and all was well.

The beauty of the "I was in fear for my life" is that the officer does not even have to explain what he is in fear for his life from. It could be that he fears getting hit on the head by a meteorite. All he has to do is think, "I am in fear for my life", pull out his pistol and start blasting. Heaven help the poor soul[s] nearby.

24 posted on 05/16/2014 1:22:32 PM PDT by sport
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To: null and void; Salamander

If those shouting mutually contradictory orders and pointing guns at an innocent citizen did not wear magical government costumes, no one here would believe “flight or fight” to be an irrational response to the situation.

Such people judge the rightness or wrongness of an action based not on the action, but on the costume donned by the perpetrators.


25 posted on 05/16/2014 1:23:45 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Salamander

This should have been in post 24, but let me add them now. I am sorry for the loss of your cousin.


26 posted on 05/16/2014 1:24:48 PM PDT by sport
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To: RKBA Democrat
On second thought, the cops shouldn't have Tased the kid. They should have shot him point bank in the chest with a 12 ga. bean bag round and put the little creep away permanently. Then they could go out to find a dog to shoot, go on a dough nut and coffee break, and go home safe. After all, isn't that's all that matters? /sarc/
27 posted on 05/16/2014 1:36:45 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: longfellow

Naah. Taking the guns away or the tazers or the nightsticks does nothing. The conduct is the problem and the conduct is not and will not be addressed. And in all truth I do believe that everyone, including abusive police, have the right to self defense.

The solutionin my view is to drastically reduce the number of police and for people to stop calling them unless someone needs killing. Because that’s becoming the all too likely result.


28 posted on 05/16/2014 1:37:37 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Two parties, one agenda. It's the uniparty.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Why the hell would a cop want to that???

He is required to get uncompromising submission to his (her) authority. PERIOD.


29 posted on 05/16/2014 1:44:50 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: RKBA Democrat

No. The real problem isn’t the occasional bad cop.

The real problem is no matter how egregious the outrage, all cops close ranks and protect him or her.

There is no effective mechanism for punishing, let alone removing, a rotten apple, no matter how much it’s oozing, no matter how thick the cloud of flies or how tangled the mat of maggots.

The whole barrel suffers.


30 posted on 05/16/2014 2:18:08 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: null and void

I think we’re talking to the same thing. You will never have accountability regardless of the conduct or the relative numbers who are bad actors. So you need to reduce the total number of apples. Bad or good.


31 posted on 05/16/2014 2:23:24 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Two parties, one agenda. It's the uniparty.)
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To: Salamander

1. Why run if you are innocent? Why not stop when ordered to stop? Wouldn’t have been tased if he stopped....
2. Where was his wife to raise the child? Why did aunt have to raise him?
Seems to me he his actions gave the cops reason to suspect him of no good...just saying...


32 posted on 05/16/2014 3:18:42 PM PDT by majormaturity
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To: RKBA Democrat

Sorry mate - but it doesn’t always work that way. I would have to say your EMS experience was limited.


33 posted on 05/16/2014 3:21:40 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: Blue Ink

A taser is not ‘deadly force’. Most city cops have to be tased once a year to qualify to use the device. Do you think that would happen if they were ‘deadly’?

There are a lot of poorly trained cops out there now - mainly because there a are lot of leftist, academic, idiot police chiefs. But let’s not all go knee jerk with every story. As conservatives we are supposed to analyze and evaluate.


34 posted on 05/16/2014 3:27:08 PM PDT by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: all the best

“Wondering if these out-of-control cops are mostly younger men who grew up zapping and shooting people on video games.”

It’s called desensitization, a very well known psychological effect. No surprise here.


35 posted on 05/16/2014 3:39:07 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: QuisCustodiet1776

Tasers may not be CLASSIFIED as ‘deadly force,’ but it’s inarguable that they cause death after death after death. Big thread on FreeRepublic a few months ago about a kid tagger who ran from the cops — and got tased to death.

We can debate about how many deaths constitute ‘rare,’ but there is simply no debate that tasers are killing people in cities all over the US.

If someone dies, it’s deadly force.


36 posted on 05/16/2014 3:42:03 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: sport

Thanks.

It sure was a shock.

No pun intended.


37 posted on 05/16/2014 3:42:31 PM PDT by Salamander (Black Ace Dog Handler)
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To: QuisCustodiet1776

Admittedly it was in the days before tasers. The options were more limited. I don’t recall a situation where large numbers of people weren’t able to hold the individual down. Usually the police and firefighters were pitching in a hand.

Different days.


38 posted on 05/16/2014 3:43:27 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Two parties, one agenda. It's the uniparty.)
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To: sport

“I felt threatened”®

Ironically, that’s the only requirement for the Maryland castle doctrine law.

That I “feel threatened”.

I’m thinking I might develop a very nervous disposition in the future.


39 posted on 05/16/2014 3:46:51 PM PDT by Salamander (Black Ace Dog Handler)
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To: Salamander

Armed persons entering your domicile in the dead of night?

“I feel threatened” is an understatement.

(My Doberman controls me like a puppet.) I feel threatened.

(I forgot to feed the snakes this week.) I feel threatened.....


40 posted on 05/16/2014 4:12:15 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

LOL!

Our law is actually so liberal as to be nearly arbitrary.

Gone are the requirements that they actually be in the house or even on the property.

Apparently, if somebody walks up my lane, lingers near my gate and “I feel threatened”, I can open fire.

[crazy but technically true]

LOL


41 posted on 05/16/2014 4:33:48 PM PDT by Salamander (Black Ace Dog Handler)
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To: longfellow
obviously we have to take these tazers from these @$$holes.

No...we need to tazer them first.

42 posted on 05/16/2014 7:08:29 PM PDT by Rodamala (Big rings.)
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To: majormaturity; Salamander; null and void

I know...why run if you are innocent. It’s not like they are going to kill you or anything.....oh wait.....

Nully!!! Boot licker on aisle 3!!!


43 posted on 05/16/2014 10:59:25 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: Shimmer1

Couldn’t you just scream?

Reading comprehension sure isn’t what it used to be.

:-\


44 posted on 05/17/2014 2:35:42 AM PDT by Salamander (Black Ace Dog Handler)
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To: The Antiyuppie
It’s called desensitization, a very well known psychological effect. No surprise here.

No, *sigh* No surprise at all.

45 posted on 05/17/2014 7:55:19 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: majormaturity

Dunno. Maybe the kid read the papers and was aware of the new paradigm in policing?


46 posted on 05/17/2014 7:59:35 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: Salamander

For some reason, I find your report as credible as it is disgusting. Do you dare post the locality where it happened?


47 posted on 05/17/2014 3:47:56 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Salamander

How horrible! I’m so sorry, friend.


48 posted on 05/17/2014 3:51:52 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Check your mail


49 posted on 05/17/2014 4:14:03 PM PDT by Salamander (Black Ace Dog Handler)
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To: trisham

It was the same spot where a drunk hit my 2 biker friends in ‘97.

I hate that curve.


50 posted on 05/17/2014 4:17:59 PM PDT by Salamander (Black Ace Dog Handler)
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