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Should Paid 'Menstrual Leave' Be a Thing?
The Atlantic ^ | May 16, 2014 | EMILY MATCHAR

Posted on 05/16/2014 2:47:23 PM PDT by rickmichaels

For most American women beyond the age of high school gym class, “I’ve got my period” isn’t considered much of an excuse for anything. We’re meant to pop an Advil and get on with things, Red Devil be damned. But in several, mostly East Asian, countries, so-called “menstrual leave” is a legally enshrined right for female workers.

However, as these countries attempt to move toward greater gender equality in the workplace, menstrual leave has come under debate. Do these policies simply further the notion that women are weak, hormonally-addled creatures controlled by their uteri? Or do they encourage more equality by accommodating female workers’ biological demands, much as maternity leave does?

The issue turns out to be surprisingly complicated, with complex historical roots and supporters on both sides of the liberal-conservative divide.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Society
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1 posted on 05/16/2014 2:47:23 PM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels
uhhh.....no.

because you've come a long way baby.

if you want to be in the workforce no special treatment.

2 posted on 05/16/2014 2:48:18 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: rickmichaels

Can gay men claim it too?

(Just want to be clear on who all the recipients will be.)


3 posted on 05/16/2014 2:48:31 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: rickmichaels

Of course!

Who, in their right mind, wants to deal with them, then?

Think of the increases in efficiency.


4 posted on 05/16/2014 2:50:06 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: rickmichaels

If menstruation is medicalized and turned into a disease like pregnancy is, it is very easy for the feds or corporate health plans to mandate injectable contraceptives like DepoProvera that suppress menstruation OR require hysterectomies for the sake of equal productivity.


5 posted on 05/16/2014 2:50:55 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: rickmichaels

I often get erections that last beyond 4 hours...I need time off.


6 posted on 05/16/2014 2:51:30 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: rickmichaels

I work with a boss that has taken it upon herself to send staff email notifications of her absence most every month due to female cycle.

TMI!


7 posted on 05/16/2014 2:52:35 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: rickmichaels
What a crock of bullchit. One minute females want 'equality', another minute they want special treatment because they're females. WHICH IS IT? How would this play out during wartime on the battlefield?
8 posted on 05/16/2014 2:53:39 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: rickmichaels
how does having the day to do what ever you want simply because you have your period equal more EQUALITY?

EQUALITY TO WHAT??? that's simply hysterical

feh...

9 posted on 05/16/2014 2:54:25 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: rickmichaels

3 days off per month = 36 days - weekends = 33 days average so now females will have 1 month less working than males and will pay still be the same?

The wonderful world of privilege and non-responsibility!


10 posted on 05/16/2014 2:54:40 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Especially now that they want/expect to become Special Forces, SEALS...


11 posted on 05/16/2014 2:55:29 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: rickmichaels
What kind of phrase is “be a thing”? And does Ben Grimm approve?


12 posted on 05/16/2014 2:55:48 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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13 posted on 05/16/2014 2:55:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Drango

Ha, call in saying I won’t be in today. My medicine caused me to swell up and cause stiffness.


14 posted on 05/16/2014 2:56:01 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: rickmichaels

Does this mean all the gals in the office will take off the same day?


15 posted on 05/16/2014 2:56:16 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: rickmichaels
You know we had some Indian women (yeah from like India), who use to take time off every month for that.

Being a woman, I think it was much better to pop the midol and keep going.

16 posted on 05/16/2014 2:56:17 PM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: rickmichaels

IF (Big if) women earn 75 percent less than men do, then how are they gonna like it when you knock off another 2 days worth of pay per month?

Menstrual Pay? What a stupid concept.


17 posted on 05/16/2014 2:56:55 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Menehune56

Must be as women tend to synchronize their cycles.


18 posted on 05/16/2014 2:58:10 PM PDT by tioga (WFTD...be there or be square.)
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To: rickmichaels

When my sister was menstruating she’d be in debilitating pain, soaked in sweat and basically in bed for three days. She was a major in the Air Force’s OSI. (The first woman in the OSI.) So, three days of each month she was out sick. And, I mean SICK. I don’t recall that she ever said it was a problem with her boss. Quite frequently, the doctors laughed at her, simply not believing the problem was real. Trust me. It was real.


19 posted on 05/16/2014 2:58:16 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: x1stcav

Tip jars on all female desks!


20 posted on 05/16/2014 2:58:53 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No ship, the guys ought to qualify for combat pay that week!


21 posted on 05/16/2014 2:59:27 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: rickmichaels

22 posted on 05/16/2014 3:01:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rickmichaels

“But in several, mostly East Asian, countries, so-called “menstrual leave” is a legally enshrined right for female workers. “

Well, they probably don’t have tampons or maxi-pads so... maybe it’s a good thing they stay home.


23 posted on 05/16/2014 3:02:32 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Did she see a dr. for that? I knew someone with those difficulties who needed an ablation. I find the whole thing quite ‘last century’ myself. If you can’t deal, just get a Mirena, for cryong out loud!


24 posted on 05/16/2014 3:06:29 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Go, Cruz! Go!)
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To: rickmichaels

My wife
Missed
School and work 1day per
Month when it fell on weekday

Heavy blood loss and painfully cramping

After our second and my vas not as bad

If u have sick leave. Do what u have to do


25 posted on 05/16/2014 3:06:50 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: definitelynotaliberal

“Did she see a dr. for that?”

She said the air force doctors simply wouldn’t believe her. They’d say, “My wife has never had a problem.” This was in the late ‘60’s through, I think ‘85? So, it was last century. Also, I think the air force doctors seldom dealt with women’s problems.


26 posted on 05/16/2014 3:10:19 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: rickmichaels

Hell no!


27 posted on 05/16/2014 3:10:47 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: rickmichaels

Q:What is the difference between a woman with PMS and a terrorist?

A:You can negotiate with the terrorist.


28 posted on 05/16/2014 3:10:56 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: Gen.Blather

I know some ladies that get Cyclic Migraines when their period begins every month...

Some women have lot of additional issues with their periods...


29 posted on 05/16/2014 3:11:23 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: rickmichaels

I think it is Biblical! Absolutely! :-)


30 posted on 05/16/2014 3:12:18 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: CivilWarBrewing
How would this play out during wartime on the battlefield?

What army would want to go up against a horde of menstruating Amazons?

31 posted on 05/16/2014 3:14:59 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Engedi

“Some women have lot of additional issues with their periods...”

Apparently this isn’t “new.” My mother talked about her mother, who ran a huge enterprise with lots of employees. This was in the early part of the twentieth century until the late ‘60’s. But once a month she simply stayed in bed throwing up for a couple of days until menopause.


32 posted on 05/16/2014 3:15:20 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Drango

You don’t need a Dr. you need more women...


33 posted on 05/16/2014 3:15:48 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Gen.Blather

Thankfully, I can work from home on certain days but I pretty much suffer the same as your sister. But there are days when I have to attend a meeting or travel for work & I just tough it out. Every woman is different & it’s no joke to go through what your sister did & I do on a monthly basis.

Btw, you must be a proud brother :) amazing resume your sister has.


34 posted on 05/16/2014 3:16:43 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: rainee

“Btw, you must be a proud brother :) amazing resume your sister has.”

Actually, she’s awesome. BTW, sometimes, sick as a dog, she’d get called to supervise a murder scene or a suicide. Talk about a heroic effort! She was the commander at her last several posts.


35 posted on 05/16/2014 3:19:52 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: rickmichaels

No, but if a woman should think so, fire her!
Then, hire a man with a family to support.


36 posted on 05/16/2014 3:25:07 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: tioga

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37 posted on 05/16/2014 3:26:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rickmichaels

Because they’re unclean.


38 posted on 05/16/2014 3:32:22 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: rickmichaels
Should Paid 'Menstrual Leave' Be a Thing?

Sure it should. That wouldn't be at all discriminatory against men.

39 posted on 05/16/2014 3:33:31 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: rickmichaels

Maybe it should be mandatory for female supervisors to help reduce abuse in the workplace.


40 posted on 05/16/2014 3:39:00 PM PDT by Amari1
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To: rickmichaels
Worked with a girl who had a bad time every month.

She would come into work but have to spend the day in the ladies' break room.

Poor girl was really sick. Nothing seemed to help her.

41 posted on 05/16/2014 3:40:03 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: rickmichaels
The PMS Avenger, from "Mystery Men"! Oddly enough, NOT played by Janeane Garofalo.


42 posted on 05/16/2014 3:40:04 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Feminists today shame all women. Get real. If you cannot make it through your cycle then you are nothing more than a cry baby.


43 posted on 05/16/2014 3:57:00 PM PDT by formosa
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To: samtheman
(Just want to be clear on who all the recipients will be.)

Yes, males that self-identify as female will be able to take 5 days off per month.

44 posted on 05/16/2014 3:57:35 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: rickmichaels

I think it was Ron White that said, “I don’t trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn’t die.”


45 posted on 05/16/2014 3:58:56 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: rickmichaels

OFFS


46 posted on 05/16/2014 4:29:47 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: rainee

My sister-in-law had terribly painful ovarian cysts, and a very heavy flow. I think she also had fibroids. She had a hysterectomy in her thirties.

Thankfully, I just pop some ibuprofen and get out the heating pad....works fine.


47 posted on 05/16/2014 4:30:44 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: ealgeone

“if you want to be in the workforce no special treatment.”

I’m a woman and I agree.

The ladies should just tough it out as generations before them did.

When they are busy raising small children they sure as heck won’t get any time off.

.


48 posted on 05/16/2014 4:37:32 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

we actually had a very young lady who tried this very thing when she first started...amongst other things to have time off.


49 posted on 05/16/2014 5:10:55 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: Drango
I often get erections that last beyond 4 hours...I need time off.

Are you bragging or complaining? LOL

50 posted on 05/16/2014 5:16:08 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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