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How an Average Person can Prepare for a Pandemic
The Apartment Prepper ^ | 4/24/14 | aptprepper

Posted on 05/18/2014 11:38:44 AM PDT by Kartographer

What is a pandemic? According to Flu.gov, a pandemic is defined as a global outbreak of disease. It’s not determined by the number of deaths, but by how quickly it spreads.

Do they happen? Pandemics do happen, as in three outbreaks of flu pandemic in the 20th century:

Spanish flu killed $40-50 million in 1918 Asian flu in 1957 killed 2 million people 1 million deaths from Hong Kong flu in 1968 What are the chances?

I don’t have a crystal ball, and there is really no way to predict when and how a pandemic can happen. Certain “tells” would be:

A new virus emerges, which means people would have little or no immunity to it The virus is easily spread to others Virus starts affecting various countries around the globe at the same time. This is not hard to imagine, given the speed of air travel. Outbreaks come in waves.

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Keep an eye on the news: Just like with both the MERS virus and the Ebola Virus that are currently making their way around the globe, most pandemics or novel outbreaks will likely start in less developed areas of the world. Start Stockpiling Emergency Supplies: The first thing you need to do, is make sure you have your essential needs covered. In the case of a pandemic, the essentials include water, shelter, food, sanitation, medications, and personal security. During a Pandemic, the less contact you have with others, the better your chances are of staying healthy. Social Distancing is the Key to Avoiding the Outbreak: The best way to improve your chances of staying healthy during a pandemic is to practice social distancing. This means limiting your contact with others, and staying at least 6 feet away from people if you do have to go out. Stay Clean & Practice Good Hygiene: Just like with all person to person disease, the key to prevention lies in good hygiene. Hand washing is obvious, and when used for 30 seconds even a simple alcohol based hand sanitizer, that has between 62 and 75% ethanol, can be enough to kill pretty much any pandemic pathogen. Hospitals & Shelters Should Be Avoided: If you’re sick, then by all means you probably need to consult with a medical professional for medical advice. That being said, hospitals will be ground zero in the war and should be avoided if at all possible. Also, if you can, avoid shelters or areas where large groups of people gather, as disease spreads more quickly in those environments.

1 posted on 05/18/2014 11:38:44 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!

No one is saying that MERS is our own ‘Black Death’, but here is something to think about if just 1% of the population get ill enough to have to seek medical help that is 3,200,000 people what do you think such a surge would do to our medical system?


2 posted on 05/18/2014 11:42:32 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

One of the better Doomsday Preppers videos:

Pandemic Prepping -NATGEO Doomsday Preppers

http://natgeotv.com.au/videos/doomsday-preppers/pandemic-prepping-26320688.aspx


3 posted on 05/18/2014 11:43:27 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
The Deadly Virus MERS Has Arrived In The US — Here's What You Need To Know

To be delivered by 'virus carrying' Jihadists?

4 posted on 05/18/2014 11:45:04 AM PDT by blam
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To: Kartographer
Good afternoon. Thanks for all you do.

We have surgical masks and latex gloves as a part of our "kit." Antibiotics too.

Having said that, as a public service announcement, YOU CAN'T HAVE ENOUGH AMMO!

I feel better now.

5.56mm

5 posted on 05/18/2014 11:46:42 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Kartographer

Spanish flu, Asian flu, Hong Kong flu
I would not travel to those countries.....


6 posted on 05/18/2014 11:53:00 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: blam

Don’t think I haven’t thought about it. It would be easy enough to expose some of these death wishing Jihadist to MERS or even Ebola and send them out as living bio-bombs. Think about it doctors and engineers seem to dominate the command structures of many of the Jihadist groups.


7 posted on 05/18/2014 11:58:48 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

My God. It would be more devastating than ObamaCare!


8 posted on 05/18/2014 11:59:22 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: M Kehoe
"YOU CAN'T HAVE ENOUGH AMMO!"

Most folks don't understand the concept of the Concentric Circles of Survival. The are ordered in accordance with the immediacy of the threat:

1. Weapons and Ammo

2. Shelter

3. Water

4. Medical supplies (from band-aids to disinfectants to anti-diarrheal)

Food.

That is the order in which stocks should be acquired and stored.

9 posted on 05/18/2014 12:01:19 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: M Kehoe
"We have surgical masks and latex gloves as a part of our "kit." Antibiotics too."

Ditto. Does Tamiflu have any effect on the MERS virus?

10 posted on 05/18/2014 12:02:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: null and void

Just barely!! The Death panels would certainly be working over time!


11 posted on 05/18/2014 12:04:56 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Mariner

We’ve accumulated enough of everything to sustain us for a year plus.I can only hope that I’m strong enough and ruthless enough to do the things neccessary for survival.


12 posted on 05/18/2014 12:05:48 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Kartographer
Spanish flu killed $40-50 million in 1918...

C'mon, obammy can kill that much on one vacation.

13 posted on 05/18/2014 12:09:29 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: blam
Good afternoon. I hope you are doing well.

You write some good editorials btw.

Does Tamiflu have any effect on the MERS virus?

As you probably know I am not a doctor or pathologist. So I don't know. Although, I thought that MERS was a bacteria.

Maybe some knowledgeable FReepers will weight in...

5.56mm

14 posted on 05/18/2014 12:10:06 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Kartographer
Don’t think I haven’t thought about it.

One of the scenarios post. 9-11 was
someone isolating the smallpox virus from
burial remains of a victim,

inoculating a few hundred “Vectors”
Send them to the infidels.

Wait for a few weeks...

15 posted on 05/18/2014 12:10:55 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Farmer Dean
"I can only hope that I’m strong enough and ruthless enough to do the things neccessary for survival".

If you hesitate, you will die.

So will the other folks who are depending on you.

16 posted on 05/18/2014 12:12:12 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: M Kehoe
"Although, I thought that MERS was a bacteria"

Corona Virus. A common cold on steroids.

17 posted on 05/18/2014 12:13:12 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: M Kehoe
"As you probably know I am not a doctor or pathologist."

But you play such a good one on TV! Besides you always stay at the Holiday Inn. ;-)
18 posted on 05/18/2014 12:13:48 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

My first inclination would be to forego any remedy, shot or treatment the CDC prescribes. In my book, they are a political organization now and with this President, it wouldn’t surprise me if they intended to give me a special “not-my-people Eric Holder shot.”

Don’t trust them, haven’t since the time I mustered out in 76 and they gave me that damned swine flu shot. It screwed me up with pleurisy for 20 years.


19 posted on 05/18/2014 12:13:59 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: M Kehoe

http://news.msn.com/world/mers-coronavirus-what-you-need-to-know

•There is no treatment yet, though the CDC is discussing developing a vaccine.
•If you’re experiencing symptoms, see your doctor.
•MERS is resistant to anti-flu drugs like Tamiflu.


20 posted on 05/18/2014 12:14:37 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: M Kehoe
MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome)

MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) is a severe pneumonia-like respiratory disease caused by a virus. It is different from SARS because MERS is caused by another subtype of the virus.

21 posted on 05/18/2014 12:14:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: Kartographer
I do stay at the Holiday Inn...

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22 posted on 05/18/2014 12:18:11 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: HangnJudge; blam
Thanks.

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23 posted on 05/18/2014 12:18:39 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: HangnJudge
When I went to Europe in 1971 it was required to get the small pox vaccine.

As I recall that was the last year people in the US were given the vaccine.

If we ever had an outbreak, thousands would die.

Not sure but I doubt the vaccine shot I got would still give me any protection.

24 posted on 05/18/2014 12:21:17 PM PDT by mware
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To: Kartographer
Asian flu in 1957 killed 2 million people

Asian flu, the world's first artificial satellites and the movie Around the World in 80 Days--some of the things that concerned us in the early months of 1958.

Satellite Fever & the Asiatic Flu--Paul Perryman (1958)

25 posted on 05/18/2014 12:21:40 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: mware
When I went to Europe in 1971 it was required to get the small pox vaccine.

When I went to Europe that year, I also got an Asiatic cholera vaccination, since there were some cases that year in Eastern Europe, which I was planning to visit.

26 posted on 05/18/2014 12:24:11 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: mware

Millions would die. Even those of us over 50 would be at risk because we should have had booster shots about twenty years ago.


27 posted on 05/18/2014 12:25:33 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: mware
If we ever had an outbreak, thousands would die.

No...
10’s of millions
possibly 1/3 population
with another 1/3 badly damaged

The vaccine works for ~20 years, so,
other than the smallpox volunteers in 2012,
there is no useful population resistance left
and precisely none in those < 30 y/o

28 posted on 05/18/2014 12:26:31 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Vermont Lt

Yeah, 40 years since I got that booster.


29 posted on 05/18/2014 12:26:50 PM PDT by mware
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To: Kartographer

bttt


30 posted on 05/18/2014 12:27:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: HangnJudge

Wouldn’t want to try to give myself a booster with Cow Pox like John Adams wife did to her family.


31 posted on 05/18/2014 12:29:07 PM PDT by mware
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To: mware
I was one of the volunteers...

http://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/vaccination/vaccination-program-statement.asp

Under the plan, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) will work with state and local governments to form volunteer Smallpox Response Teams who can provide critical services to their fellow Americans in the event of a smallpox attack.

To ensure that Smallpox Response Teams can mobilize immediately in an emergency, health care workers and other critical personnel will be asked to volunteer to receive the smallpox vaccine.

32 posted on 05/18/2014 12:31:53 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge
Wouldn't want to try to give myself a booster with Cow Pox like John Adams wife did to her family.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWxDLG9_eOU

33 posted on 05/18/2014 12:32:20 PM PDT by mware
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To: blam

“Does Tamiflu have any effect on the MERS virus?”

No. There is no medicine for this. Those with it in a hospital are just getting meds to help control the symptoms. Like an anti-diarrheal to help control that, oxygen if the patient is having trouble breathing. Liquid food by tube to the stomach if regular food won’t stay down. It is up to the patient’s body to be able to fight this and if that doesn’t happen, the patient dies.


34 posted on 05/18/2014 12:33:28 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: HangnJudge

It sure leaves one nasty looking scab.


35 posted on 05/18/2014 12:33:33 PM PDT by mware
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To: mware

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWxDLG9_eOU


36 posted on 05/18/2014 12:34:06 PM PDT by mware
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To: mware
It sure leaves one nasty looking scab

Itched like fire...

37 posted on 05/18/2014 12:35:11 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: M Kehoe

MERS is a virus with no current medicine to kill it.


38 posted on 05/18/2014 12:35:18 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Kartographer
Response to pandemic:

1. Slowly panic

2. Increase panic rate to medium

3. All out panic.

39 posted on 05/18/2014 12:40:31 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: HangnJudge

Smallpox is actually difficult to weaponize, as the virus doesn’t survive outside the human body for more than 50-60 seconds.

You are familiar with the stories about Indians being infected with smallpox blankets? Couldn’t have happened.


40 posted on 05/18/2014 12:43:31 PM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE US OF US CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Kartographer; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ..

Some things to consider. Vitamin C, in the form of sodium ascorbate...buy in bulk, as crystals. Typically a quarter teaspoon is about 1 gm (1,000 mg). Be prepared to take to bowel tolerance. Enough vitamin C could squelch MERS. Intravenous vitamin C would likely stop MERS in its tracks. Find a doctor who will administer IV-C in case you might need him.

Iodine...preferably Lugol’s Iodine Solution, 5%. Take 3 to 5 drops a day in water. Best on an empty stomach. Also supplement selenium, 200 mcg (micrograms) a day. If water supplies are interrupted, you can take water from a lake or stream, filter it, and treat it with iodine, several drops per liter of water. Use either Lugol’s iodine or SSKI (saturated solution of potassium iodide.

Iodine, either Lugol’s or SSKI, may be used externally on any kind of abrasion or cut. Very antiseptic. 60 + years ago doctors’ routinely used iodine to swab wounds, and your mother probably had some in her medicine chest.

Colloidal Silver is another good thing to have available. Very antiseptic. May be used both internally and externally. Buy your colloids from a reputable source. One company sells a ‘Meso-‘ brand, 20 ppm, and it is good stuff. Price is reasonable if you buy it by the gallon.

These are just a few things to stimulate your thinking and your research as you prepare for what might be coming.


41 posted on 05/18/2014 12:45:23 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Marcella; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

http://rehydrate.org/solutions/homemade.htm

The following traditional remedies make highly effective oral rehydration solutions and are suitable drinks to prevent a child from losing too much liquid during diarrhoea:
Breastmilk
Gruels (diluted mixtures of cooked cereals and water)
Carrot Soup
Rice water - Congee
A very suitable and effective simple solution for rehydrating a child can also be made by using salt and sugar, if these ingredients are available.

If possible, add 1/2 cup orange juice or some mashed banana to improve the taste and provide some potassium.

Molasses and other forms of raw sugar can be used instead of white sugar, and these contain more potassium than white sugar.

If none of these drinks is available, other alternatives are:
Fresh fruit juice
Weak tea
Green coconut water

Preppers’PING!!


42 posted on 05/18/2014 12:49:33 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; All
This is a fairly good presentation of a pandemic. The main characters may be somewhat foolish but overall a generally good presentation. Make note of the cascading effects such as there are only 5-6K who man the nuke plants which provide power to a significant portion of the power grid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwymCRaIbSU

43 posted on 05/18/2014 1:25:09 PM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: Kartographer

M4L


44 posted on 05/18/2014 1:27:29 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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To: Kartographer
I have Gatorade powder packets stored and would use that for adults to replace electrolytes. If I had children, I'd store Pedialyte powder for them.

If diarrhea hit in an emergency situation, I want to be able to grab something, add water, and drink. Don't want to have to make up a remedy then, wasting time - just mix and drink.

Also have anti-diarrheal pills but that doesn't replace electrolytes so would keep drinking the powder/water mix after taking the pill(s). Plus, the diarrhea is due to something and if that is bacterial, don't want to stop the bad stuff getting out. If the diarrhea persists for a long time, then, of course, use the pills. What I'm saying, is, don't use the pills too quickly after diarrhea starts but do drink the electrolyte mix.

45 posted on 05/18/2014 1:55:37 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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“Spanish flu killed $40-50 million in 1918”

I was going to have some fun with this typo, but someone else beat me to the punch...and did much better than I would have.

Anyway, the need for water is questionable until the pandemic is starts to get widespread. I would say that having a means to store fresh water, and then purify it (or purify rainwater) is sufficient for a pandemic and many other bad things. It’s likely that municipal water will be around well into a pandemic. So, if it starts to spread...then get ready, if it spreads big, then get to work opening your taps.


46 posted on 05/18/2014 1:58:12 PM PDT by BobL
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If there’s a threat of a pandemic, authorities will have the authority to force people into quarantine facilities. It’ll be up to authorities to determine when people get out of quarantine. It will not be a healthy place to be for those who had some symptoms but didn’t actually have the disease.


47 posted on 05/18/2014 2:01:59 PM PDT by grania
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To: Kartographer

Anymore, hospitals are like daycares—damned if ya do and damned if ya don’t.


48 posted on 05/18/2014 2:29:07 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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To: Farmer Dean

Being as prepared as you are, makes it less likely you’ll need to be ruthless. Those who are much less or not at all prepared, will likely be ruthless first on there own immediate “friends” or acquaintances. It’s also likely that since you will be able to sustains your group through at least the first month, you will have a good idea if ruthlessness needs to be applied. Your group will provide sufficient input to help make that decision.


49 posted on 05/18/2014 2:38:34 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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To: HangnJudge

“•There is no treatment yet, though the CDC is discussing developing a vaccine.”

There is always a treatment.

Black Elderberry prevents viruses from multiplying.

Sambucus and Sambucal are two brands.


50 posted on 05/18/2014 2:44:38 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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