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2 charged with stealing Chicago fire hydrants
Chicago Tribune ^ | May 18, 2014 | Geoff Ziezulewicz

Posted on 05/18/2014 4:14:29 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

Two Chicago men face felony charges after they were caught trying to steal fire hydrants Saturday morning in the Gresham neighborhood, prosecutors said today.

Ned D. Carradine, 50, and Russell L. Mack, 51, each face criminal damage to government property and theft of government property charges in connection to the incident, which took place in the 8500 block of South Loomis Boulevard, according to Cook County court records.

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: chicago; hydrants
Chicago has gone to the dogs.
1 posted on 05/18/2014 4:14:29 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

And the dogs are missing their fire hydrants. By the way, just how does one go about stealing a fire hydrant?


2 posted on 05/18/2014 4:20:59 PM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: shove_it
You turn off the water main that feeds it, and you unbolt it. Not turning off the water main would be a 'hold my beer' moment, and maybe a Darwin Award moment.

/johnny

3 posted on 05/18/2014 4:23:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ConservativeStatement

What the heck is a thief going to do with a fire hydrant? Sell for scrap metal? Install in your yard to provide a marker for your dog??


4 posted on 05/18/2014 4:23:35 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Sell it for scrap. Maybe sell it to other towns especially if its one of the new lead free firehydrant that bam bam’s regulations requires.


6 posted on 05/18/2014 4:25:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

A 50 plus crook needs an especially harsh sentence. At that age you’ve long since lost the thin cover of youthful stupidity.


7 posted on 05/18/2014 4:26:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Just unbolt it. The valve is deep in the ground, and there is no water in that column. Otherwise, the water would feeze in the winter.


8 posted on 05/18/2014 4:29:25 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ConservativeStatement

Why would one steal a fire hydrant?

Because it’s there?


9 posted on 05/18/2014 4:37:17 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: TheMole

Russell Mack looks like he got hit in the face by either a fire hydrant or maybe a “Mack” truck.


10 posted on 05/18/2014 4:41:20 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: ConservativeStatement

they’ll look good in his dorm room


11 posted on 05/18/2014 4:46:24 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Cboldt
That's for up north. Down south, wet barrel hydrants are common.

/johnny

12 posted on 05/18/2014 4:55:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Those have to be dry well FH! Wet wells are made of brass and will burst if temps too low CA has wet wells, how do I know I installed a ton. Upper elevation in CA and any area subject to low temps we install dry wells. ! Dry wells are made of cast iron and shut off below freeze zone. Not much value in cast iron! Maybe at most 10 cents a lb! All they accomplished was vandalism.


13 posted on 05/18/2014 5:05:07 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: DocJhn
I'm only familiar with what gets used down south here.

/johnny

14 posted on 05/18/2014 5:06:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I didn’t know that. I just assumed the design was “standard,” more or less. These guys were working a cold climate.


15 posted on 05/18/2014 5:08:00 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ConservativeStatement

I can’t even begin to count the number of cases I prosecuted in 25 years. But this I know ... I never prosecuted one for fire hydrant theft.


16 posted on 05/18/2014 5:08:17 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: DocJhn

To shut down a water main you need a Gate Key, It’s about 6 ft in length and has a square that is made to fit the Gate Valve! A wet well has hollow bolts that secure it to a flange on piping that is encased in concrete, so if you hit it with your car it snaps off like you see in the movies. If you hit a dry well it will prob just lean a bit and your car is screwed! Dry wells are encased in concrete
at the ditch line to prevent blow off @ 200 plus lbs per sq inch!


17 posted on 05/18/2014 5:13:27 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: ConservativeStatement

Were they drunk, stoned, on meds or ALL THREE?


18 posted on 05/18/2014 5:14:55 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ConservativeStatement

Did they turn them off first?Chicago hasn’t”Gone To The Dogs”;It Went To”DeadFish”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


19 posted on 05/18/2014 5:16:03 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: JRandomFreeper

There are also dry hydrants that are nothing but a connector for the pump truck with a pick up pipe in the river or creek near by. Not hooked to the municipal water supply.


20 posted on 05/18/2014 5:16:51 PM PDT by wrench
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To: DocJhn

Dry wells shut off below freeze zone after use and then drain into gravel. A plunger on a brass rod which can be up to 4’ in length from the top nut where you turn it on opens the hydrant and then closes when done. And then it drains!


21 posted on 05/18/2014 5:20:35 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: driftdiver

What thieves are after is the brass nuts on top of hydrants
to shut water on/off

Can get some good prices for brass scrap

Here in NJ couple of years ago had crack heads unbolting
sections of guard rails and taking to scrap dealers

Troopers arrested one dragging guard rail down shoulder
of interstate

Started arresting scrap dealers for possession of stolen property - kinda of hard to explain what are doing with pieces of guard rails


22 posted on 05/18/2014 5:28:45 PM PDT by njslim (T)
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To: DocJhn

20 years ago a wet well cost around $1000.00!


23 posted on 05/18/2014 5:38:37 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: DocJhn

So presumably when you see pictures of kids in the spray from hydrants on hot summer days they are accessing wet wells?


24 posted on 05/18/2014 5:51:09 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: ConservativeStatement
It starts with the parking meters.


25 posted on 05/18/2014 5:52:05 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

in Chicago the valve is off and under ground.. if there was water up at the top it’d freeze.


26 posted on 05/18/2014 6:14:50 PM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cableguymn
Wet barrel hydrants are used down in the sunny south.

/johnny

27 posted on 05/18/2014 6:16:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: njslim

They started stealing manhole covers and storm drain grates for a short time where I’m at..scrap companies soon wanted nothing of it.


28 posted on 05/18/2014 6:20:35 PM PDT by jughandle ( "We have the right to debate and disagree with any administration!" -HRC)
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To: shove_it

The valve opens in to the main so that when a hydrant gets knocked off, the valve will stay or slam shut.

The stem is about 1” rod and has some pipe sleeve connectors that hold them together.

Many times the bolts inside are so rusty that when a hydrant is replaced, they unbolt the outside flange and bend it over and break the sleeve.


29 posted on 05/18/2014 6:30:44 PM PDT by Clay Moore (I Like My Guns Like Obama Likes His Voters: Undocumented)
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To: JRandomFreeper

How far south are you? DFW is dry barrel.


30 posted on 05/18/2014 6:36:33 PM PDT by Clay Moore (I Like My Guns Like Obama Likes His Voters: Undocumented)
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To: ConservativeStatement

The “journalist” who wrote this is typical of the barely literate idiots they are churning out of journalism school these days:

The two already had “unauthorized control” of a second hydrants....

...were each ordered release on their own recognizance....


31 posted on 05/18/2014 7:13:59 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: cableguymn
in Chicago the valve is off and under ground.. if there was water up at the top it’d freeze.

I had a valve break on one in the winter in my yard. It quickly turned the yard into a skating rink. Fortunately the water department checked the voice mail on their emergency number on a Sunday and were able to get a crew out to fix it that day.

32 posted on 05/18/2014 7:17:01 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Rockpile

No depends on the freeze zone of the area they are located in! A wet well will freeze and bust in the winter. All pipe lines are engineered accordingly! Water is just supplied in a different manor. A wet well has water it it all the time and a dry well drains and is dry when you shut it off. Some areas of the country the freeze zone can be as much as 9 ft deep.
LA never freezes normally so wet wells are utilized.! What you do not see there is a pipe 6” in diameter that feeds that hydrant @ normally 160 psi. To get a spray from a hydrant it is just cracked open a bit. Otherwise it would flood the street.


33 posted on 05/18/2014 9:02:55 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: Cboldt; JRandomFreeper

If it feezed that would be hugh and series. ;)


34 posted on 05/19/2014 3:08:53 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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