Skip to comments.2 charged with stealing Chicago fire hydrants
Posted on 05/18/2014 4:14:29 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
Two Chicago men face felony charges after they were caught trying to steal fire hydrants Saturday morning in the Gresham neighborhood, prosecutors said today.
Ned D. Carradine, 50, and Russell L. Mack, 51, each face criminal damage to government property and theft of government property charges in connection to the incident, which took place in the 8500 block of South Loomis Boulevard, according to Cook County court records.
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And the dogs are missing their fire hydrants. By the way, just how does one go about stealing a fire hydrant?
What the heck is a thief going to do with a fire hydrant? Sell for scrap metal? Install in your yard to provide a marker for your dog??
Sell it for scrap. Maybe sell it to other towns especially if its one of the new lead free firehydrant that bam bam’s regulations requires.
A 50 plus crook needs an especially harsh sentence. At that age you’ve long since lost the thin cover of youthful stupidity.
Just unbolt it. The valve is deep in the ground, and there is no water in that column. Otherwise, the water would feeze in the winter.
Why would one steal a fire hydrant?
Because it’s there?
Russell Mack looks like he got hit in the face by either a fire hydrant or maybe a “Mack” truck.
they’ll look good in his dorm room
Those have to be dry well FH! Wet wells are made of brass and will burst if temps too low CA has wet wells, how do I know I installed a ton. Upper elevation in CA and any area subject to low temps we install dry wells. ! Dry wells are made of cast iron and shut off below freeze zone. Not much value in cast iron! Maybe at most 10 cents a lb! All they accomplished was vandalism.
I didn’t know that. I just assumed the design was “standard,” more or less. These guys were working a cold climate.
I can’t even begin to count the number of cases I prosecuted in 25 years. But this I know ... I never prosecuted one for fire hydrant theft.
To shut down a water main you need a Gate Key, It’s about 6 ft in length and has a square that is made to fit the Gate Valve! A wet well has hollow bolts that secure it to a flange on piping that is encased in concrete, so if you hit it with your car it snaps off like you see in the movies. If you hit a dry well it will prob just lean a bit and your car is screwed! Dry wells are encased in concrete
at the ditch line to prevent blow off @ 200 plus lbs per sq inch!
Were they drunk, stoned, on meds or ALL THREE?
Did they turn them off first?Chicago hasn’t”Gone To The Dogs”;It Went To”DeadFish”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are also dry hydrants that are nothing but a connector for the pump truck with a pick up pipe in the river or creek near by. Not hooked to the municipal water supply.
Dry wells shut off below freeze zone after use and then drain into gravel. A plunger on a brass rod which can be up to 4’ in length from the top nut where you turn it on opens the hydrant and then closes when done. And then it drains!
What thieves are after is the brass nuts on top of hydrants
to shut water on/off
Can get some good prices for brass scrap
Here in NJ couple of years ago had crack heads unbolting
sections of guard rails and taking to scrap dealers
Troopers arrested one dragging guard rail down shoulder
Started arresting scrap dealers for possession of stolen property - kinda of hard to explain what are doing with pieces of guard rails
20 years ago a wet well cost around $1000.00!
So presumably when you see pictures of kids in the spray from hydrants on hot summer days they are accessing wet wells?
in Chicago the valve is off and under ground.. if there was water up at the top it’d freeze.
They started stealing manhole covers and storm drain grates for a short time where I’m at..scrap companies soon wanted nothing of it.
The valve opens in to the main so that when a hydrant gets knocked off, the valve will stay or slam shut.
The stem is about 1” rod and has some pipe sleeve connectors that hold them together.
Many times the bolts inside are so rusty that when a hydrant is replaced, they unbolt the outside flange and bend it over and break the sleeve.
How far south are you? DFW is dry barrel.
The “journalist” who wrote this is typical of the barely literate idiots they are churning out of journalism school these days:
The two already had unauthorized control of a second hydrants....
...were each ordered release on their own recognizance....
I had a valve break on one in the winter in my yard. It quickly turned the yard into a skating rink. Fortunately the water department checked the voice mail on their emergency number on a Sunday and were able to get a crew out to fix it that day.
No depends on the freeze zone of the area they are located in! A wet well will freeze and bust in the winter. All pipe lines are engineered accordingly! Water is just supplied in a different manor. A wet well has water it it all the time and a dry well drains and is dry when you shut it off. Some areas of the country the freeze zone can be as much as 9 ft deep.
LA never freezes normally so wet wells are utilized.! What you do not see there is a pipe 6” in diameter that feeds that hydrant @ normally 160 psi. To get a spray from a hydrant it is just cracked open a bit. Otherwise it would flood the street.
If it feezed that would be hugh and series. ;)
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